Spies from the cold - in swarms

Skybird · 05-20-07, 06:49 PM

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1813562.ece

Think we will see a revival of the good old espionage thriller movies from the 60, 70s and 80s !

I expected that an increasingly stronger Russia would act with more self-confidence on the world scene, and would not accept one-sided pro-West deals anylonger. However, I must admit that maybe I was wrong in estimating how far it would go. Slowly but surely the increasing aggressiveness of Putin's policies (also with regard to energy economy, and press) start to become a concern for me. It's all becoming too much, and too fast. Maybe Putin successfully bluffed me. The German-Russian energy cooperations also threaten not to turn out the way it was expected.

CCIP · 05-20-07, 06:52 PM

Cue anti-Russian sentiment in the west in 3... 2... 1...

If the doom and gloom you prophesize is true, then it looks like in the end I may well end up choosing to go back to Russia

Skybird · 05-20-07, 07:02 PM

I do not prophesize here. I'm just getting a little bit alarmed. At the time of writing this, Gazprom and Eon clash again in negotiations, and Germany has been target of increased spionage activities, too, and not only economy-spionage. Add to this the anger at the just finished summit, and events inside Russia, and you easily see that the relations are as bad as never before since 1989. I put some trust in advance into Putin and gave him the credit of doubt. Maybe that was wrong. As I said in the past, he seems to be a damn good chess player. Add poker to the list, then.

I have my doubts that all this is just hot air, aiming at the upcoming elections. Call it instinct, maybe (better late than never

)

Camaero · 05-20-07, 07:50 PM

I don't trust the Russians AT ALL. Putin is one bad dude.

Happy Times · 05-20-07, 11:02 PM

Blog for the Russophobes.:p

http://russophobe.blogspot.com/

Good read from today.

http://russophobe.blogspot.com/2007/...n-history.html

CCIP · 05-20-07, 11:16 PM

Our slogan: "Что-то типа Новой Газеты на английском языке."

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

SUBMAN1 · 05-23-07, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camaero

I don't trust the Russians AT ALL. Putin is one bad dude.

That about sums it all up right there. Nothing else need be said.

SUBMAN1 · 05-23-07, 03:40 PM

More fuel for the fire:

http://www.milnet.com/opinion/Cold-War-Is-On.html

Quote:

For a number of years, the hints have been apparent to those looking. In some ways, it has been apparent only as a sort of feeling of deja vu, a little like reading a few pages into a book and then realizing, "Hey, I've read this book!". That realization -- that inkling suddenly becomes a ull blown spine tingler...when you mentally put a finger on a passage and say before you've read it, "this is going to happen, you watch." And then you know. It's all happened before. In this case, we're saying there is a New Cold War in operation today, and it has been in operation for some time...

Hit the above link to read on

-S

05-20-07, 06:49 PM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,674 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Spies from the cold - in swarms http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1813562.ece Think we will see a revival of the good old espionage thriller movies from the 60, 70s and 80s ! I expected that an increasingly stronger Russia would act with more self-confidence on the world scene, and would not accept one-sided pro-West deals anylonger. However, I must admit that maybe I was wrong in estimating how far it would go. Slowly but surely the increasing aggressiveness of Putin's policies (also with regard to energy economy, and press) start to become a concern for me. It's all becoming too much, and too fast. Maybe Putin successfully bluffed me. The German-Russian energy cooperations also threaten not to turn out the way it was expected. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

05-20-07, 06:52 PM	#2
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Cue anti-Russian sentiment in the west in 3... 2... 1... If the doom and gloom you prophesize is true, then it looks like in the end I may well end up choosing to go back to Russia __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

05-20-07, 07:02 PM	#3
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,674 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I do not prophesize here. I'm just getting a little bit alarmed. At the time of writing this, Gazprom and Eon clash again in negotiations, and Germany has been target of increased spionage activities, too, and not only economy-spionage. Add to this the anger at the just finished summit, and events inside Russia, and you easily see that the relations are as bad as never before since 1989. I put some trust in advance into Putin and gave him the credit of doubt. Maybe that was wrong. As I said in the past, he seems to be a damn good chess player. Add poker to the list, then. I have my doubts that all this is just hot air, aiming at the upcoming elections. Call it instinct, maybe (better late than never ) __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

05-20-07, 07:50 PM	#4
Camaero The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA, Massachusetts Posts: 1,477 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	I don't trust the Russians AT ALL. Putin is one bad dude. __________________

05-20-07, 11:02 PM	#5
Happy Times Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 2,950 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Blog for the Russophobes.:p http://russophobe.blogspot.com/ Good read from today. http://russophobe.blogspot.com/2007/...n-history.html __________________ Last edited by Gizzmoe; 05-21-07 at 12:14 AM.

05-20-07, 11:16 PM	#6
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Our slogan: "Что-то типа Новой Газеты на английском языке." :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)