NEWS regarding 1.3 - Page 2

FIREWALL · 05-18-07, 12:35 PM

I'm wondering what other PC game companys are thinking right now.

Are they going to go with a mindset "If UBI can sell crap and not back it up and screw the comsumer because what can they do about it". So can we.

Or will they think " Heres our chance to grabup this niche market and have a Finanical and Advertiseing coup on Ubisoft ".

If it wasn't for their INTEGRITY and RESPECT for Neal Stevens, the people on SS could fix this game and SH3 REALLY GOOD!!!

As it is we can't do anything but do as the Devs request and cross our fingers as UBISOFT leads us down the path.

Good Luck to All fellow SubSimmers.

flintlock · 05-18-07, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

I'm almost with you, but not yet. I'm going to wait for official word and not the rumormill before making that decision.

Oh I will too.

I meant specifically not ordering any special, limited or exclusive editions of any future titles published or developed through Ubisoft. Definitely no more pre-orders and only standard and basic editions from here on in. And only then, once I'm convinced the product works as intended. Even if we get another patch it won't change my mind. I want a responsible publisher who desires to fix their product on their own accord and in good conscience because it's the ethical thing to do. Not one one that needs to be pulled by their ear, kicking and screaming all because the community is in an uproar over their apparent abandonment of an unfinished product.

FIREWALL · 05-18-07, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by flintlock

Quote:

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

I'm almost with you, but not yet. I'm going to wait for official word and not the rumormill before making that decision.

Oh I will too.

I meant specifically ordering any special, limited or exclusive editions of any future titles of Ubisoft. No more pre-orders, and only the standard basic editions once I'm convinced the product works as intended. Even if we get another patch ot won't change my mind. I want a responsible publisher who desires to fix their product on thier own accord and in good conscience because it's the ethical thing to do. Not one one that needs to be pulled by their ear, kicking and screaming all because the community is in an uproar.

Thats the most sensible thing I've heard yet.

Lt. Cobra · 05-18-07, 12:42 PM

Well-informed people are happy people! Communication is one of the key factors in securing future business for a person or a company. It sounds like Ubi Soft has no sense of accountability at this point, which could be the reason for not hearing anything from them. Maybe it is partly because they feel like that their customers are so desperate for their product that they will buy it no matter what condition that it is in.

Lt. Cobra

WernerSobe · 05-18-07, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lt. Cobra

Maybe it is partly because they feel like that their customers are so desperate for their product that they will buy it no matter what condition that it is in.

Lt. Cobra

not me, im done with ubi. I wont buy any ubi product for a long time again and will make sure to tell friends about their bad support and patching policy.

rdhiggins · 05-18-07, 12:52 PM

This is ODD that they are now trying to make us vote (based on a poll that I started) when it is PERFECTLY CLEAR that we need a patch??

I mean what the hell the post that Neal started has a lot more replies than the vote????????

FIREWALL · 05-18-07, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

I'm wondering what other PC game companys are thinking right now.

Are they going to go with a mindset "If UBI can sell crap and not back it up and screw the comsumer because what can they do about it". So can we.

Or will they think " Heres our chance to grabup this niche market and have a Finanical and Advertiseing coup on Ubisoft ".

If it wasn't for their INTEGRITY and RESPECT for Neal Stevens, the people on SS could fix this game and SH3 REALLY GOOD!!!

As it is we can't do anything but do as the Devs request and cross our fingers as UBISOFT leads us down the path.

Good Luck to All fellow SubSimmers.

Read a few of the posts besides the title before posting
and you might be surprised what you might learn

all you fast typists.

gouldjg · 05-18-07, 01:04 PM

Got to keep our quality and ISO9002 standards clean now and ask consumers some things in the name of continual improvment blah blah etc etc.

Bet you if we all written in letters (offcially and individually), eventually people do get sacked for not performing their jobs properly (even directors).

Much better than trying to sue

The problem is, most of us are too lazy to do it so it carries on. Even I am too lazy but everyday, I do see the effect within companies once their quality certification is threatened to be pulled.

It about the only time the board takes not (more so than workers getting injured)

What a load of tosh I just spewed:p

Each to their own conspiracy theory:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Jace11 · 05-18-07, 01:10 PM

They know where the bug lists are, they know which are the most important because they read these forums - thats why we got AA etc in 1.2

This is a ruse. They are obviously desperate to remove themselves from any responsibilty for finishing this title.

The end of the SH franchise is nigh..

joea · 05-18-07, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace11

They know where the bug lists are, they know which are the most important because they read these forums - thats why we got AA etc in 1.2

This is a ruse. They are obviously desperate to remove themselves from any responsibilty for finishing this title.

The end of the SH franchise is nigh..

Please go away and stop with the negative posts.

gg. · 05-18-07, 01:24 PM

I think we should take a legal action against UBI...

dkbos · 05-18-07, 01:25 PM

I paid quite a few of my hard-earned dollars for SH4. (approx.) $50.00 is not chump change for me. I don't think it is for anybody.

It's clear to me now that I've been taken advantage of.

I get to pay UBI for the "privilage" of testing their product for them and then giving feedback on what fixes need to be made? Are you kidding me? Really?

If this is true.... I'm speechless.

joea · 05-18-07, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gg.

I think we should take a legal action against UBI...

I think you should realise we won't get any more sims if we do...

9th_cow · 05-18-07, 01:27 PM

i do not think i have heard of anything as pathetic as " we need a poll before we can patch"
surely this has to be made up ? no professional company could come up with anything that retarted could they ?

next they will say they cant afford to patch the game because of pirates :rotfl:

hell who cares. only thing i really need fixing is the stopwatch for working out speed. the rest the community could well take care of in time im sure.

FIREWALL · 05-18-07, 01:29 PM

WOW!!! Alot of emotions includeing my own are being releasedon this thread. Thats a GOOD thing as long as we work together.

So far this is second hand info and should be taken as such.

UBISOFT imho would be treading on thin ice if they shaft any gameing cosumer. It's not good for future bussiness.

We've waited this long a little more time won't hurt.

As far as legal action you start with your own state Attorney Generals office and your states Consumer Affairs
office.

As for our foreign members recourse , maybe you have something simular.

A class action lawsuit is the only realistic solution if UBI doesn't come through. And their are consumer groups that will help with this or at least give advice on the steps to be taken.

For a lighter note . I live in Los Angelos, Calif. the Capitol
of Sueing of the world.:p

05-18-07, 12:35 PM	#16
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	I'm wondering what other PC game companys are thinking right now. Are they going to go with a mindset "If UBI can sell crap and not back it up and screw the comsumer because what can they do about it". So can we. Or will they think " Heres our chance to grabup this niche market and have a Finanical and Advertiseing coup on Ubisoft ". If it wasn't for their INTEGRITY and RESPECT for Neal Stevens, the people on SS could fix this game and SH3 REALLY GOOD!!! As it is we can't do anything but do as the Devs request and cross our fingers as UBISOFT leads us down the path. Good Luck to All fellow SubSimmers. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

05-18-07, 01:25 PM	#27
dkbos Swabbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 6 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Call Me a Sucker I paid quite a few of my hard-earned dollars for SH4. (approx.) $50.00 is not chump change for me. I don't think it is for anybody. It's clear to me now that I've been taken advantage of. I get to pay UBI for the "privilage" of testing their product for them and then giving feedback on what fixes need to be made? Are you kidding me? Really? If this is true.... I'm speechless.

05-18-07, 01:29 PM	#30
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	WOW!!! Alot of emotions includeing my own are being releasedon this thread. Thats a GOOD thing as long as we work together. So far this is second hand info and should be taken as such. UBISOFT imho would be treading on thin ice if they shaft any gameing cosumer. It's not good for future bussiness. We've waited this long a little more time won't hurt. As far as legal action you start with your own state Attorney Generals office and your states Consumer Affairs office. As for our foreign members recourse , maybe you have something simular. A class action lawsuit is the only realistic solution if UBI doesn't come through. And their are consumer groups that will help with this or at least give advice on the steps to be taken. For a lighter note . I live in Los Angelos, Calif. the Capitol of Sueing of the world.:p __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

05-18-07, 12:42 PM	#19
Lt. Cobra Seaman Join Date: May 2007 Location: North Carolina, USA Posts: 40 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Well-informed people are happy people! Communication is one of the key factors in securing future business for a person or a company. It sounds like Ubi Soft has no sense of accountability at this point, which could be the reason for not hearing anything from them. Maybe it is partly because they feel like that their customers are so desperate for their product that they will buy it no matter what condition that it is in. Lt. Cobra

05-18-07, 12:52 PM	#21
rdhiggins Mate Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 57 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	This is ODD that they are now trying to make us vote (based on a poll that I started) when it is PERFECTLY CLEAR that we need a patch?? I mean what the hell the post that Neal started has a lot more replies than the vote????????

05-18-07, 01:04 PM	#23
gouldjg Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Manchester UK Posts: 881 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Got to keep our quality and ISO9002 standards clean now and ask consumers some things in the name of continual improvment blah blah etc etc. Bet you if we all written in letters (offcially and individually), eventually people do get sacked for not performing their jobs properly (even directors). Much better than trying to sue The problem is, most of us are too lazy to do it so it carries on. Even I am too lazy but everyday, I do see the effect within companies once their quality certification is threatened to be pulled. It about the only time the board takes not (more so than workers getting injured) What a load of tosh I just spewed:p Each to their own conspiracy theory:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

05-18-07, 01:10 PM	#24
Jace11 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Posts: 683 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 1	They know where the bug lists are, they know which are the most important because they read these forums - thats why we got AA etc in 1.2 This is a ruse. They are obviously desperate to remove themselves from any responsibilty for finishing this title. The end of the SH franchise is nigh..

05-18-07, 01:24 PM	#26
gg. Watch Join Date: May 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 28 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	I think we should take a legal action against UBI...

05-18-07, 01:27 PM	#29
9th_cow Planesman Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 182 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 0	i do not think i have heard of anything as pathetic as " we need a poll before we can patch" surely this has to be made up ? no professional company could come up with anything that retarted could they ? next they will say they cant afford to patch the game because of pirates :rotfl: hell who cares. only thing i really need fixing is the stopwatch for working out speed. the rest the community could well take care of in time im sure.