End of the Royal Navy??

[Oberon]

Chock's knocked it on the head, we need to stop pretending that we're the old "Rule Britannia, Britannia rules the waves!"....we don't even rule the English Channel any more! Or any of the seas around us come to think of it! We need to pull ourselves out of global affairs, rebuild and repair our forces, rebuild and repair our country...and then re-emerge a stronger and better nation for it. At the moment we're so wrapped up in foreign affairs, acting like we're the old Great British nation, that at home, things have fallen apart completely.

[DanCanovas]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Chock's knocked it on the head, we need to stop pretending that we're the old "Rule Britannia, Britannia rules the waves!"....we don't even rule the English Channel any more! Or any of the seas around us come to think of it! We need to pull ourselves out of global affairs, rebuild and repair our forces, rebuild and repair our country...and then re-emerge a stronger and better nation for it. At the moment we're so wrapped up in foreign affairs, acting like we're the old Great British nation, that at home, things have fallen apart completely.

I think poor domestic and defence policy contributes.

[Oberon]

True, very true...but trying to overstretch ourselves with our forces, especially whilst cutting down on them at the same time is a receipe for disaster and effects both the morale of the forces, and the morale at home. Admittedly this is not helped by the gutter press who'll take any opportunity to find dirt to dish, regardless of who they dish it on, so long as it sells papers....although to be fair, in some cases, such as this, they help to bring the publics attention to what a poor state of affairs we are in. The government has always been about quick fixes, particularly recently with Blairs departure...all the **** that hits the fan will be dealt with by Gordon and Blair knows this.

Still...we are heading in the right direction with the Type 45s and the Astute projects...but it's just knowing that half the current order will probably be scrapped before the third sub is even built, likewise the T45s....then more money will be thrown into the black hole of the NHS, instead of putting in a solid framework to insure the money that is put in doesn't go straight into a luxary yacht for a fat cat. Likewise the railways and roads....and don't even get me started on the 2012 olympics

[DanCanovas]

Originally Posted by Oberon

True, very true...but trying to overstretch ourselves with our forces, especially whilst cutting down on them at the same time is a receipe for disaster and effects both the morale of the forces, and the morale at home. Admittedly this is not helped by the gutter press who'll take any opportunity to find dirt to dish, regardless of who they dish it on, so long as it sells papers....although to be fair, in some cases, such as this, they help to bring the publics attention to what a poor state of affairs we are in. The government has always been about quick fixes, particularly recently with Blairs departure...all the **** that hits the fan will be dealt with by Gordon and Blair knows this.

Still...we are heading in the right direction with the Type 45s and the Astute projects...but it's just knowing that half the current order will probably be scrapped before the third sub is even built, likewise the T45s....then more money will be thrown into the black hole of the NHS, instead of putting in a solid framework to insure the money that is put in doesn't go straight into a luxary yacht for a fat cat. Likewise the railways and roads....and don't even get me started on the 2012 olympics

:rotfl:

[Oberon]

I know, I know...I think I'm turning into STEED

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by Oberon

I know, I know...I think I'm turning into STEED

That's ok, but will you leave Orwell out of it? :p

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

That's ok, but will you leave Orwell out of it? :p

Awww, but I liked his Mercury theatre adaptation of 'The War of the Worlds'.

[Tchocky]

[kurtz]

Originally Posted by DanCanovas

when I applied to join the submarine service (RN) i was offered about £6,000 if I had a successful application. Apparently because i'm allergic to peanuts my application will be rejected.

pour Qoi? Are subs likely to be attacked with peanuts?

[Tchocky]

Makes sense to me. When you're feeding 100+ men three tiomes a day (more often with separate watches, innit?), you can't be that careful. peanut allergies are very severe things, and nuts are used in a lot of dishes.

Taking someone with a very severe allergy on board......don't make sense.

unless of course his peanut allergy is extrememly mild and I'm completely wrong

[Heibges]

They probably figure it's cheaper for the US Navy to protect trade routes etc.

Sort of like how the US depended on the Royal Navy to enforce the Monroe Doctrine back in the day.

[Chock]

Now the Soviets will realise the foolishness of all the money they wasted on developing the supercavitating Shkval torpedo with the peanut warhead - muhahahaha!

[fatty]

"I have with me incontrovertible proof that Iraq possesses several Peanuts of Mass Destruction and intends to grow more."

[Kazuaki Shimazaki II]

Sure, the underfunding's critical, but this is not so bad. The Americans have developed a nice tradition of "hot-shipping" for decades with their ballistic missile subs.

Still, In a few years, the Brits will say "If we had a choice to command the Russian Navy or ours, we'd command the Russian Navy. At least they are trying to keep it running..."

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by Chock

Now the Soviets will realise the foolishness of all the money they wasted on developing the supercavitating Shkval torpedo with the peanut warhead - muhahahaha!

The US is way ahead of them with the SSN Jimmy Carter.



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