NRA opposes bill to stop gun sales to terror suspects

[perisher]

I have nothing to say on this. I am not an American.

But, I will just say why I have nothing to say. This subject is far more complex than most non-Americans realise, the gun ownership issue has cultural, legal, historical and geographical factors that are not found in other societies.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Nostromo

I'd be for the the bill, I can't see whats so bad as to denying terrorist's the privilege to buy weapons.

At least legally. Not much you can do about Ilegally:hmm:

I would agree, but they're not talking about denying a privilege (or a right) to terrorists; they're talking about denying it to anyone whom they think might possibly be a terrorist.

[micky1up]

they would wouldnt they madmen the lot "from my cold dead heart and brain"

[joea]

Originally Posted by JSLTIGER

To be serious for a moment, a foreigner (ie. non-American citizen, not sure about legal immigrants green card holders etc.) would not have the same Constitutional rights as an American? To everyone, this isn't so much about gun control, as the fact of withholding Constitutional rights (whether we agree with the particular right or not ) from someone with a "suspicious" name.

Actually, non-US citizens are NOT protected by the Constitution. There are some very clear legal precendents regarding this.[/quote]

Well that's what I meant to say but it didn't come across very well.

[kurtz]

Originally Posted by JetSnake

Alot of names on a terrorist watch list are similar sounding names/ shouldn't be there/ etc. So even though this seems like a great bill, it does in fact prohibit people whose god-given rights will be trampled. Besides, if a terrorist isn't allowed to legally buy a firearm, do you think that will stop them from illegally buying one?

Similar as in Mohamed or similar as in o'reilly


@Elite Hunter love your sig

[elite_hunter_sh3]

hehe the sig owns... ... and fyi im not a terrorist u nooob.. im simply calling the NRA stupid cuz they dont want a bill to pass that keeps terrorists from getting guns... which obviously defies all logic because if the government knows who the terrorists are they would have already been arrested long before they can even get a gun!

[Letum]

I don't think it is in the best interests of the American people to own guns, however, I'm with the NRA on this one.
Any law that contains the phrase "without due process of law" is unsupportable.

[TheSatyr]

The NRA has been out of touch with reality for decades now...so this doesn't surprise me. (They fought assault weapons bans...they fought cop killer bullet bans...they fought fully automatic weapons bans...the NRA is the biggest terrorist organization in the USA if you ask me).

As for the second amendment...I ain't going there other than to say I don't care who has a gun as long as it's a muzzle loading musket. Other than that...heh.

[TteFAboB]

This is a good coherence test to those who oppose the "War on Terror", the police state, privacy, etc.

I'm not in the US terror list but I'm in Kenya's terrorist list flagged as a member of the PLO. I still can't enter Kenya through the airport. But please don't tell the Mossad!

[kurtz]

Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3

hehe the sig owns... ... and fyi im not a terrorist u nooob.. im simply calling the NRA stupid cuz they dont want a bill to pass that keeps terrorists from getting guns... which obviously defies all logic because if the government knows who the terrorists are they would have already been arrested long before they can even get a gun!

I Never called you a terrorist so leave of the nooob stuff

[August]

Originally Posted by TheSatyr

The NRA has been out of touch with reality for decades now...so this doesn't surprise me. (They fought assault weapons bans...they fought cop killer bullet bans...they fought fully automatic weapons bans...the NRA is the biggest terrorist organization in the USA if you ask me).

Maybe you ought to stop taking what the opponents of the NRA say as gospel.

As for the second amendment...I ain't going there other than to say I don't care who has a gun as long as it's a muzzle loading musket. Other than that...heh.

Show me where the 2A says anything about muzzle loaders...

[elite_hunter_sh3]

wasnt directed towards u kurtz it was to the person who called me a terrorist or mentioned something about me being a terrorist... which if i was id probably been arrested by now because they are probably monitoring this thread right now since we used their active trigger words such as "terrrorist,terrorism, bomb, hijack, attack on military," etc..
edit* cracked 800!

[August]

Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3

hehe the sig owns... ... and fyi im not a terrorist u nooob.. im simply calling the NRA stupid cuz they dont want a bill to pass that keeps terrorists from getting guns... which obviously defies all logic because if the government knows who the terrorists are they would have already been arrested long before they can even get a gun!

Suspected terrorists. There's a difference although it's probably lost on you.

[ASWnut101]

Originally Posted by perisher

I have nothing to say on this. I am not an American.

But, I will just say why I have nothing to say. This subject is far more complex than most non-Americans realise, the gun ownership issue has cultural, legal, historical and geographical factors that are not found in other societies.

That's go to be the smartest comment I've heard all day. I admire that.

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I'm also with the NRA on this.

...fought cop killer bullet bans...

Could you please elaborate for us just what a "cop killer bullet" is?

[August]

Originally Posted by ASWnut101

Could you please elaborate for us just what a "cop killer bullet" is?

Oooh, I can answer that one. It's a bullet shot into a cops head instead of his body armor which all the baddies know the cops are wearing beneath their uniforms because of the media hype regarding teflon coated rounds which don't penetrate a ballistic vest any better than standard rounds.