TypeXXI GWX - Page 2

Spytrx · 05-05-07, 05:08 PM

thanks for the info

personally I like the Type XXI more than any other - from it's looks alone you can tell it is miles ahead of it's nearest rivals and built for a specific purpose: Silent Run! The only problem with the boot is it's time - if you play it realistically you get the boot right near the end - and if you play on 100% realism you have a hard enough time getting into your patrol area, let alone enjoy the ride

Paajtor · 05-05-07, 06:07 PM

Here's a great sight:

Found it here

Telgriff · 05-05-07, 10:13 PM

After looking through this thread, I think I will definately need to take the XXI out for a spin.

Jimbuna · 05-06-07, 05:27 AM

@Paajtor
A great sight indeed

Hell!!.. that's more boats than the Germans managed to send out on patrol

Ubåtskapten · 05-06-07, 08:52 AM

The XXI was really a fantastic boat for its time. To bad (in a way) it came out too late for really demonstrating its capabilities.

I found a irl picture similar to the one above some time ago, to bad I can't figure out which site I found it on though.

XXi · 05-06-07, 01:41 PM

IIRC this certain photo has been taken in Bergen, and thatlight grey XXI in the middle is U 2511, taken in .. May 1945 ? Not sure about the date though.

Personally, I like XXI so very much... Sure, freankly telling I like ALL the Boats I can be given command, but XXI is just the final bonus in a carrer

At last you have a sub capable of entering a convoy and destroying it, with all the ASW vessels circulating helplessly around sinking ships. It brings even more satisfactoin than some actions made early in the war - I mean, you know there are much more DDs around and they are expierienced. And even though, they can be so ineffective !

On the other hand, there`s one great enemy within you: self overconfidence. Early in the war, you can get in serious trouble only if you were taking high risk or were making something really stupid. Still, on many occasions DDs are easy to deceive and lose contact. In 1945, DDs are much more accurat and if you make an error, they`ll most likely benefit. And once they lock on you, they`re difficult to loose.

Paajtor · 05-06-07, 02:33 PM

Correct.
But this Uboat can have some nice tricks up it's sleeve.
- It can be equipped with the Bold3 decoys, with a life-time of 8-10mins.
- I tested the max depth at which the torpedo-tubes can be opened: 49m! (GWX 1.03)
- Combine these 2 with T-V accoustically guided torpedoes (target-speed must be >10kts)...

Next test will be to see, how these decoys eventually are able to attrackt T-V's

I need to know lol.

XXi · 05-06-07, 02:48 PM

You`re right of course

I meant more you can make something wrong and get detected and hunt. You have big chances, but still good silent running, T-V and decoys don`t make you invincible - personally I prefer a tactics that allows me to get inside the convoy, run havoc and get out with minimum escort reaction.

Paajtor · 05-07-07, 05:09 PM

I find this a bit disturbing: can't use the flak-guns in rough weather.

Perfectly understandable for other subs...but in the XXI, the gunners are in an enclosed turret.
How can I make it so the gunners will work?

Paajtor · 05-07-07, 05:23 PM

possible bug: when I order crash-dive, the forward diving-planes don't extract...so when trying to surface afterwards, the boat has troubles keeping the nose up.
Need to test it further, though.

Jimbuna · 05-08-07, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paajtor

I find this a bit disturbing: can't use the flak-guns in rough weather.

Perfectly understandable for other subs...but in the XXI, the gunners are in an enclosed turret.
How can I make it so the gunners will work?

Go into the subs basic cfg file and alter the bad weather guns to '99'

Paajtor · 05-08-07, 08:58 AM

Jimbuna, I couldn't find any entry like that for the XXI anywhere.
So I used an old badweatherguns-mod I still had on my HD, to take a look at what needed to be changed.

Found out, that I had to change a value in NSS_Uboat21.cfg.
So I made a special mini-mod, just for the TypeXXI, JSGME-ready.
If anyone wants it, get it here.
I hope it works...gotta wait untill this evening, to test it.

Still thx for the reply, mate...it made me realize, that I had some badweatherguns-mod somewhere.

Steel_Tomb · 05-08-07, 10:14 AM

I've taken the XXI to war from Bergen before, used SH3cmdr to get it, my, what a boat! On my first trip out of port I spotted an Illustrious class carrier surrounded by DD's. I put 4 fish in the carrier and fired two acoustic homing fish at the DD's which were turning to intercept me...boom...boom...both gone, 1knot silent running its a dream...you can barely hear it even when your right next to the props! I have to admit though I did get caught later after hitting a convoy. I had about 5 friends circling above...splash splsh...BOOM, sank like a brick got some screens will post them later.

Steel_Tomb · 05-08-07, 10:17 AM

Heres the pic...pretty big hole in the front! No wonder she went down so quickly. Btw I don't know if its me, but its pretty hard to get it level going slow. at 2-3knots she just keeps going down even with no damage, as if theres not enough air to keep her afloat. I have to increase speed to about 5knots for her to level off, pretty bad when your diving away from DD's near crush depth!

Jimbuna · 05-08-07, 01:28 PM

Go to here C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\GWXv103\data\Submarine\NSS_Uboat9b or whatever boat your using.....then alter the storm conditions in the cfg file

[Properties]
PeriscopeDepth=13.5;meters 12.5
SnorkelDepth=14;meters
CrashDepth=70;meters
MaxDepth=500;meters
SurfaceDepth=8;meters
TorpLaunchMaxDepth=20;meters
StormConditions=11,0.4;max wind speed [m/s], max rain intensity [0,1]

05-05-07, 06:07 PM	#17
Paajtor The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Dutch mountains Posts: 1,551 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 1	Here's a great sight: Found it here __________________

05-05-07, 10:13 PM	#18
Telgriff 中国水兵 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 272 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	After looking through this thread, I think I will definately need to take the XXI out for a spin. __________________ Back into the hunt after far too long, GWX 3 Gold, SH3 Commander, DiD Rules, 27% realism and rising Intel Core2Duo 6400 GeForce 8800GTS 4 Gig DDr2

05-06-07, 05:27 AM	#19
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	@Paajtor A great sight indeed Hell!!.. that's more boats than the Germans managed to send out on patrol __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

05-06-07, 01:41 PM	#21
XXi Ensign Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Warsaw, Poland / Nagoya, Japan Posts: 227 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	IIRC this certain photo has been taken in Bergen, and thatlight grey XXI in the middle is U 2511, taken in .. May 1945 ? Not sure about the date though. Personally, I like XXI so very much... Sure, freankly telling I like ALL the Boats I can be given command, but XXI is just the final bonus in a carrer At last you have a sub capable of entering a convoy and destroying it, with all the ASW vessels circulating helplessly around sinking ships. It brings even more satisfactoin than some actions made early in the war - I mean, you know there are much more DDs around and they are expierienced. And even though, they can be so ineffective ! On the other hand, there`s one great enemy within you: self overconfidence. Early in the war, you can get in serious trouble only if you were taking high risk or were making something really stupid. Still, on many occasions DDs are easy to deceive and lose contact. In 1945, DDs are much more accurat and if you make an error, they`ll most likely benefit. And once they lock on you, they`re difficult to loose. __________________ lasciate ogni speranza... voi, chi entrate

05-06-07, 02:33 PM	#22
Paajtor The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Dutch mountains Posts: 1,551 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 1	Correct. But this Uboat can have some nice tricks up it's sleeve. - It can be equipped with the Bold3 decoys, with a life-time of 8-10mins. - I tested the max depth at which the torpedo-tubes can be opened: 49m! (GWX 1.03) - Combine these 2 with T-V accoustically guided torpedoes (target-speed must be >10kts)... Next test will be to see, how these decoys eventually are able to attrackt T-V's I need to know lol. __________________ Last edited by Paajtor; 05-06-07 at 02:43 PM.

05-05-07, 05:08 PM	#16
Spytrx Medic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 167 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	thanks for the info personally I like the Type XXI more than any other - from it's looks alone you can tell it is miles ahead of it's nearest rivals and built for a specific purpose: Silent Run! The only problem with the boot is it's time - if you play it realistically you get the boot right near the end - and if you play on 100% realism you have a hard enough time getting into your patrol area, let alone enjoy the ride

05-06-07, 08:52 AM	#20
Ubåtskapten Soundman Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 141 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	The XXI was really a fantastic boat for its time. To bad (in a way) it came out too late for really demonstrating its capabilities. I found a irl picture similar to the one above some time ago, to bad I can't figure out which site I found it on though.

05-06-07, 02:48 PM	#23
XXi Ensign Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Warsaw, Poland / Nagoya, Japan Posts: 227 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	You`re right of course I meant more you can make something wrong and get detected and hunt. You have big chances, but still good silent running, T-V and decoys don`t make you invincible - personally I prefer a tactics that allows me to get inside the convoy, run havoc and get out with minimum escort reaction. __________________ lasciate ogni speranza... voi, chi entrate

05-07-07, 05:09 PM	#24
Paajtor The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Dutch mountains Posts: 1,551 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 1	I find this a bit disturbing: can't use the flak-guns in rough weather. Perfectly understandable for other subs...but in the XXI, the gunners are in an enclosed turret. How can I make it so the gunners will work? __________________

05-07-07, 05:23 PM	#25
Paajtor The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Dutch mountains Posts: 1,551 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 1	possible bug: when I order crash-dive, the forward diving-planes don't extract...so when trying to surface afterwards, the boat has troubles keeping the nose up. Need to test it further, though. __________________

05-08-07, 08:58 AM	#27
Paajtor The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Dutch mountains Posts: 1,551 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 1	Jimbuna, I couldn't find any entry like that for the XXI anywhere. So I used an old badweatherguns-mod I still had on my HD, to take a look at what needed to be changed. Found out, that I had to change a value in NSS_Uboat21.cfg. So I made a special mini-mod, just for the TypeXXI, JSGME-ready. If anyone wants it, get it here. I hope it works...gotta wait untill this evening, to test it. Still thx for the reply, mate...it made me realize, that I had some badweatherguns-mod somewhere. __________________

05-08-07, 10:14 AM	#28
Steel_Tomb Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cambridgeshire - UK Posts: 1,128 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I've taken the XXI to war from Bergen before, used SH3cmdr to get it, my, what a boat! On my first trip out of port I spotted an Illustrious class carrier surrounded by DD's. I put 4 fish in the carrier and fired two acoustic homing fish at the DD's which were turning to intercept me...boom...boom...both gone, 1knot silent running its a dream...you can barely hear it even when your right next to the props! I have to admit though I did get caught later after hitting a convoy. I had about 5 friends circling above...splash splsh...BOOM, sank like a brick got some screens will post them later.

05-08-07, 10:17 AM	#29
Steel_Tomb Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cambridgeshire - UK Posts: 1,128 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Heres the pic...pretty big hole in the front! No wonder she went down so quickly. Btw I don't know if its me, but its pretty hard to get it level going slow. at 2-3knots she just keeps going down even with no damage, as if theres not enough air to keep her afloat. I have to increase speed to about 5knots for her to level off, pretty bad when your diving away from DD's near crush depth!

05-08-07, 01:28 PM	#30
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Go to here C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\GWXv103\data\Submarine\NSS_Uboat9b or whatever boat your using.....then alter the storm conditions in the cfg file [Properties] PeriscopeDepth=13.5;meters 12.5 SnorkelDepth=14;meters CrashDepth=70;meters MaxDepth=500;meters SurfaceDepth=8;meters TorpLaunchMaxDepth=20;meters StormConditions=11,0.4;max wind speed [m/s], max rain intensity [0,1] __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!