Time off to give up smoking!!!

[TteFAboB]

When I quoted you, were you talking about the specific question at hand? If so seeing no problem and seeing nothing wrong means agreeing, condoning. Considering you're from Canada, not Britain and it's not your tax revenue nor your workplace, as far as the specific question is concerned you obviously see no problem with the British doing the little sacrifice. Thus, my sentence stands untill money from your pocket is involved: It's easy to do charity with other people's money, "eh"?

[P_Funk]

Originally Posted by TteFAboB

When I quoted you, were you talking about the specific question at hand? If so seeing no problem and seeing nothing wrong means agreeing, condoning. Considering you're from Canada, not Britain and it's not your tax revenue nor your workplace, as far as the specific question is concerned you obviously see no problem with the British doing the little sacrifice. Thus, my sentence stands untill money from your pocket is involved: It's easy to do charity with other people's money, "eh"?

Ah I see. So since I'm in Canada any opinion I have is irrelavent unless its about Canada.

What difference does it make if its my country? We're discussing the idea. If it were in my country I'd feel exaclty the same way. Its their country and their government and they're using their own tax revenue. I'm just agreeing with it.

Your argument is irrelavent. This is just an abstract discussion. Your accusation is also, laughable.

[TteFAboB]

Originally Posted by P_Funk

Ah I see. So since I'm in Canada any opinion I have is irrelavent unless its about Canada.

"Any OPINION". Yes, opinions are like butts, everybody has one. An opinion is not a small sacrifice nor charity. The relevance of your opinion is irrelevant to this fact.

What difference does it make if its my country? We're discussing the idea. If it were in my country I'd feel exaclty the same way. Its their country and their government and they're using their own tax revenue. I'm just agreeing with it.

Your argument is irrelavent. This is just an abstract discussion. Your accusation is also, laughable.

My comment was the statement of a fact, not an accusation, much less an argument. But if this is just an abstract discussion what are you agreeing with? Are you an idea? If you are agreeing with the object of this thread then you agree with a concrete situation, not abstract at all.

Your ideas, yes, are irrelevant before the fact: an idea, like an opinion, does not make a small sacrifice nor charity. So you have declared that you see nothing wrong with making small sacrifices and charity but so far have done neither while not only agreeing that Brits do it but declaring it an obligation. Since your money isn't involved at all it's easy to conclude that it's easy to do charity with other people's money. If not, why can't you just say so? "No, I consider it harder".

If it were in my country I'd feel exaclty the same way.

Yes, feel. You see, you feel and have an opinion and an idea. I'm sure the smokers appreciate your feelings but none of those qualify as small sacrifices or charity in the monetary sense which is the object of discussion (fairness) of the thread.

[P_Funk]

Originally Posted by TteFAboB

Yes, feel. You see, you feel and have an opinion and an idea. I'm sure the smokers appreciate your feelings but none of those qualify as small sacrifices or charity in the monetary sense which is the object of discussion (fairness) of the thread.

WTF are you smoking?

I don't even know where you're getting your argument from. Are you saying that my opinion is irrelavnet because I.. have it? And what makes you any more right in taking me down than me saying what I said in the first place?

I have firm beliefs about the role of society in general. This applies to all Western style democracies, aprticularly ones with a common origin. To have a view as to the relavence and purpose of a proposed program is perfectly acceptable, and I am not giving away others money justby agreeing with it.

I believe in something and I am reaffirming it. Your arguements seem to stem from a basic view on your own part about the role of society in general, a role which is obviously "feck off, fend for yourself". If that is true then you should state that, instead of trying to corner my own beliefs as if they were somehow unacceptable.

[Kapitan]

Just found out our council activly sponsors us to stop smoking it pays for all or any worker who smokes to go for treatment to give up.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Kapitan

Just found out our council activly sponsors us to stop smoking it pays for all or any worker who smokes to go for treatment to give up.

So that's where my council tax is going.

[Kapitan]

probably its what £105 per session of hypnotherapy so far 8 guys have tried it, plus the other methords.