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stabiz · 04-19-07, 08:48 AM

The stutters are back, although I didnt change anything. Checked that only one core was working on the game, etc. No prgrams running in the background, except fraps, and I have tried without it too.

This time I am loosing my mind.

Deja-vu, this happened in 1.1 too, thought it was fixed, and then ... CRAP!

AVGWarhawk · 04-19-07, 08:52 AM

Damn it, just lost the wind in my sails

. What is making it run great then for no reason at all take a crap?????

Grothesj2 · 04-19-07, 08:54 AM

I have that card and the game most runs pretty smoothly for me.

AVGWarhawk · 04-19-07, 08:56 AM

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I have that card and the game most runs pretty smoothly for me.

Get together with Stabiz and compare notes!!!

Bilge_Rat · 04-19-07, 09:43 AM

stabiz, have you tried turning off your sound card completely to see if it is the problem? based on the symptoms, it sounds like the most likely culprit.

I have a dual-core opteron 170, 2 gig ddr ram, 7900 GTX, audigy zx sound card, I get no stutters whatsoever in 1.1 or 1.2.

I did have problem with micro-stutters in IL-2 which was improved somewhat by turning off one core, but that has not been an issue with SH4.

Cakewalk · 04-19-07, 09:47 AM

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Sometimes it dissilusions me how I get only 20 FPS with these strange stutters with Volm. Fog off, and other can get 60 FPS easy with max settings and a card only marginally better than mine, an EVGA 7900 GS KO.

Depends on the other specs of your PC. How much RAM? What proc?

Mine runs perfect on:

Nvidia EN7600GS 512mb PCIE
Intel Core Duo 2.4 GHZ
2 gb Kingston Ram (2 sticks)
SATA HDD
XP 64 Bit Edition
Audigy 2

EVGA GeForce 7900 GS KO
Intel Pentium 4 3.06 Ghz CPU (533 FSB)
1 GB DDR2 RAM
SATA 250 GB HDD
Windows Vista 32 bit edition
Onbard sound (driver is terrible, audio crackles... that's what I get for getting Vista too early.)

I could run it at around 42 FPS outside, 50 inside sub pre 1.1, but now after 1.2 performance has dropped noticably to 20 fps outside, 35 inside (mind you, I am at 1400x900 res, and 4X AA and 4X AF)

I may get stutters as well, but my FPS is too low to really notice them.

Another thing I've noticed is the the FPS values "flicker"... that is, the counter seems to jump endlessly fast between values like 19 FPS and 38 FPS while outside, but the actual performance still plays like 20 FPS.

CruiseTorpedo · 04-19-07, 09:57 AM

I wonder if your running any norton/symantec products or if you have in the past and just uninstalled them? I had a heck of a time with their antivirus. I uninstalled it and still something was causing my PC to go really slow anytime I ran any game, didnt matter which. I couldnt find any processes that were running from norton AV but the computer ran like crap. I eventually had to format and re-install windows xp, couldnt figure it out.

Cakewalk · 04-19-07, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CruiseTorpedo

I wonder if your running any norton/symantec products or if you have in the past and just uninstalled them? I had a heck of a time with their antivirus. I uninstalled it and still something was causing my PC to go really slow anytime I ran any game, didnt matter which. I couldnt find any processes that were running from norton AV but the computer ran like crap. I eventually had to format and re-install windows xp, couldnt figure it out.

Naw, I actually don't even have a virus scanner on the computer yet

(its fairly new). I'm beginning to think it might be my CPU though, from what I've seen the Core 2 Duo gives vast improvements in performance.

ReallyDedPoet · 04-19-07, 10:05 AM

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changed the develop-thingies in the main cfg to "No",

All to no Stabiz

I think there are three settings, maybe two:hmm:

Yeah, got all three of them.

Great, appreciate it, plan to do the same for my rig

U-Bones · 04-19-07, 10:20 AM

Sorry to mention, but sometimes the obvious... CPU affinity can not be permanantly set that I know of. You have to set this ever time you start the app. Also the main.cfg you need to edit is the one in My Documents\SH4

FWIW, my stutters stopped when I stopped running Taskmanager

AMD 4200 Dual
2GB Ram
7600 GT 256 DDR3
SB Audigy 2 SE (not good)

I get 20's with High settings and 4xAA @ 1280x960 120hz

XanderF · 04-19-07, 10:24 AM

Stabiz - post your DXDIAG. (Start -> run -> dxdiag.exe. 'Save all information' and post here.)

JuicemanJ · 04-19-07, 02:06 PM

Just curious, how do you turn off or set afinity to one of your cores?

CruiseTorpedo · 04-19-07, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cakewalk

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Originally Posted by CruiseTorpedo

I wonder if your running any norton/symantec products or if you have in the past and just uninstalled them? I had a heck of a time with their antivirus. I uninstalled it and still something was causing my PC to go really slow anytime I ran any game, didnt matter which. I couldnt find any processes that were running from norton AV but the computer ran like crap. I eventually had to format and re-install windows xp, couldnt figure it out.

Naw, I actually don't even have a virus scanner on the computer yet

(its fairly new). I'm beginning to think it might be my CPU though, from what I've seen the Core 2 Duo gives vast improvements in performance.

Not to be mean but arent we trying to help Stabiz here? He already has a c2d chip and he's getting stutters like mad. If your getting stutters too how about ya post your specs, maybe we'll figure somethin out. But I still wonder what kind of apps Stabiz's running in the background.

AVGWarhawk · 04-19-07, 02:41 PM

Bump

Please men, anyone who can help Stabiz with a simular type system, please post here. Stabiz is a long standing member of this community and needs our help. Besides, I need to see the second installment of Yamato and he is the producer

SteamWake · 04-19-07, 02:45 PM

I might be crazy but it surely wont hurt much.

Next time you get the stutters try shelling out (alt tab) and returning to the game.

Ive read other posts here that this helped (shrug).

04-19-07, 08:48 AM	#16
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	The stutters are back, although I didnt change anything. Checked that only one core was working on the game, etc. No prgrams running in the background, except fraps, and I have tried without it too. This time I am loosing my mind. Deja-vu, this happened in 1.1 too, thought it was fixed, and then ... CRAP! __________________

04-19-07, 08:52 AM	#17
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Damn it, just lost the wind in my sails. What is making it run great then for no reason at all take a crap????? __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

04-19-07, 10:24 AM	#26
XanderF Samurai Navy Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 554 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Stabiz - post your DXDIAG. (Start -> run -> dxdiag.exe. 'Save all information' and post here.) __________________

04-19-07, 02:41 PM	#29
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Bump Please men, anyone who can help Stabiz with a simular type system, please post here. Stabiz is a long standing member of this community and needs our help. Besides, I need to see the second installment of Yamato and he is the producer __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

04-19-07, 08:54 AM	#18
Grothesj2 Medic Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 167 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I have that card and the game most runs pretty smoothly for me.

04-19-07, 09:43 AM	#20
Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,855 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	stabiz, have you tried turning off your sound card completely to see if it is the problem? based on the symptoms, it sounds like the most likely culprit. I have a dual-core opteron 170, 2 gig ddr ram, 7900 GTX, audigy zx sound card, I get no stutters whatsoever in 1.1 or 1.2. I did have problem with micro-stutters in IL-2 which was improved somewhat by turning off one core, but that has not been an issue with SH4.

04-19-07, 09:57 AM	#22
CruiseTorpedo Torpedoman Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 112 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I wonder if your running any norton/symantec products or if you have in the past and just uninstalled them? I had a heck of a time with their antivirus. I uninstalled it and still something was causing my PC to go really slow anytime I ran any game, didnt matter which. I couldnt find any processes that were running from norton AV but the computer ran like crap. I eventually had to format and re-install windows xp, couldnt figure it out.

04-19-07, 10:20 AM	#25
U-Bones Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Treading Water Posts: 847 Downloads: 56 Uploads: 0	Sorry to mention, but sometimes the obvious... CPU affinity can not be permanantly set that I know of. You have to set this ever time you start the app. Also the main.cfg you need to edit is the one in My Documents\SH4 FWIW, my stutters stopped when I stopped running Taskmanager AMD 4200 Dual 2GB Ram 7600 GT 256 DDR3 SB Audigy 2 SE (not good) I get 20's with High settings and 4xAA @ 1280x960 120hz

04-19-07, 02:06 PM	#27
JuicemanJ Swabbie Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sac,CA Posts: 10 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 0	Just curious, how do you turn off or set afinity to one of your cores?

04-19-07, 02:45 PM	#30
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I might be crazy but it surely wont hurt much. Next time you get the stutters try shelling out (alt tab) and returning to the game. Ive read other posts here that this helped (shrug).