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04-10-07, 06:48 PM

Most computers come with 2 or more disc drives(Mine did anyways)Make
sure you use the same disc drive that you installed the game from.I installed mine using a DVDRW + - drive and since I use that drive for
other things I sometimes mix my Dvd's up.

Tool · 04-10-07, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Fearless

Here is another question then. The people that download SH4 instead of buying it off the shelf, what do they use for the game to work??? They sure don't have an original DVD to put in the drive????????

I d/l SHIII from ubisoft and installed from the d/l file. I didn't need to use any discs with it to play, although I did extract the ISO and burn it to DVD so i had a hard copy of it. I can see why they try to prevent pirating, but all it does is create issues. Years ago I ran into a new Dell where I couldn't use the dvdrom to install a retail cut of MS Office... over an hour later (after calling MS tech support, and digging all over google) I tried the cdrw and it worked.. really pissed me off. That stuff just isn't necessary in this millennium.. and the sooner software makers understand that, the better. I can see now why people do go with nocd patches, just to avoid swapping discs or worse, ruining your original that the producer won't replace.

Tool.

Fearless · 04-10-07, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tool

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Originally Posted by Fearless

Here is another question then. The people that download SH4 instead of buying it off the shelf, what do they use for the game to work??? They sure don't have an original DVD to put in the drive????????

I d/l SHIII from ubisoft and installed from the d/l file. I didn't need to use any discs with it to play, although I did extract the ISO and burn it to DVD so i had a hard copy of it. I can see why they try to prevent pirating, but all it does is create issues. Years ago I ran into a new Dell where I couldn't use the dvdrom to install a retail cut of MS Office... over an hour later (after calling MS tech support, and digging all over google) I tried the cdrw and it worked.. really pissed me off. That stuff just isn't necessary in this millennium.. and the sooner software makers understand that, the better. I can see now why people do go with nocd patches, just to avoid swapping discs or worse, ruining your original that the producer won't replace.

Tool.

Thanks Tool, Just as I thought. So the best bet then to avoid this crappy protection system is to purchase the program via a download method. Isn't that then contradicting the protection process? The people that buy off the shelves are severely disadvantaged and to me that shows double standards. I presume it costs more to purchase off the shelve than direct to drive download. So I've paid more just to have protection against piracy and to have pay additional to buy another DVD drive to get it to work properly. Hmmm! something worth checking into. The double standards I mean :hmm:

Tool · 04-10-07, 10:10 PM

I think the d/l and store prices are the same... at least according to the email i got form ubisoft, $49.99.

Unless you need all the extra stuff, i prefer to just download my games.

Tool.

Quillan · 04-10-07, 10:52 PM

The issues with the downloaded versions are two: bandwidth and patches. You need a good broadband connection to download a game; Medieval 2 Total War came in at nearly 10 gigs in size, IIRC. Not everyone has that. The more pressing issue at least to me is patches. If you purchase a download version of the game, you generally cannot use the regular patches. They add in the disk check! You of course don't have a disk, so then you can't even play the game. Usually the versions for downloaded games come out later than the patch versions for the retail purchase games. This isn't always true; Ubi was quite good about simultaneous release of the patches for both the DVD and downloaded versions of SH3, and I expect that to continue with SH4.

Fearless · 04-11-07, 02:06 AM

Ah yes but patch 1.1 is for both dvd and downloadable version. My argument is that you do not need to have a dvd rom in the drive for a downloaded version of SH4 but you do for the purchased off the shelve one. So why should some people that bought off the shelve have to suffer the consequences of the program not running because of the security access issue with DVD R/RW not being suitable. It should apply to both versions not just one. Alternatively get rid of that security crap alltogether. Why make dvd versions of it anyway.

Granted some comp systems have slow downloads but at the end of the day no dvd is needed in the drive to make it game work.

Quillan · 04-11-07, 10:01 AM

I agree with you on the copy protection. It seems a waste of time to me; all copy protection eventually can be circumvented and the pirates are going to distribute cracked copies regardless. To those of us who pay for the games, it does nothing but cause us inconvenience and problems. However, I don't think any solution is perfect.

SteamWake · 04-11-07, 10:25 AM

Hell cracked copies were up before the game hit the shelves.

They had a few "issues" though

plaice · 04-11-07, 10:30 AM

Is anyone having a problem with the mouse not being stable while trying to play the game. I am having this problem an you really cann't do much with this game without using the mouse.

SteamWake · 04-11-07, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by plaice

Is anyone having a problem with the mouse not being stable while trying to play the game. I am having this problem an you really cann't do much with this game without using the mouse.

While this is way off topic Ill go ahead and pitch in.

If your referring to mouse stutters its "normal" espically at high time compression settings.

Try just waiting a few seconds and it will return to normal.

If its constant and happens at "normal" time speeds you have some issues.

Seminole · 04-11-07, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Fearless

When I start the sh4.exe to play the game it searches for the original dvd rom no doubt that is the security thingy for the game to run but when I already have the original in the drive and start the game only to be told that "hey you must have the original in the drive to proceed" (not in those words of course) has got me stumped :hmm:

Would that be because when starting up it's not reading the dvd rom correctly or is it some other issue at hand? That's the first time ever I've had that happen.

I ran into this the first day. What happened was that I have a DVD drive and a CDRW drive.

I had the play disk in the cdrw drive and got a similar message. Switched drives and it ran.

Just a thought.

mrdak · 10-07-07, 01:29 PM

Hello, I own a retail version of SH4, and for a while I was just sliping the DVD in the drive because I thought it was necessary. I even used nero to make a copy of the DVD so I could use the copy, and save the original disk. I used the copy in my NEC DVD RW ND-3540A drive thinking I neede it in there in order to run the game. Just for the heck of it, I tried running the game with no disk, and she runs just fine. Why do you think I don't need the disk? Did UBI add that feature to the 1.3 patch? Hey, I'm glad I don't need it in there, but I'm guessing I'm not alone here............ am I?

neumanf15 · 10-07-07, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mrdak

Did UBI add that feature to the 1.3 patch?

Yes.

mrdak · 10-07-07, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by neumanf15

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrdak

Did UBI add that feature to the 1.3 patch?

Yes.

That was like ~~~~~~fast~~~~~~ Thanks Neuman..

04-10-07, 10:10 PM	#19
Tool Planesman Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 189 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I think the d/l and store prices are the same... at least according to the email i got form ubisoft, $49.99. Unless you need all the extra stuff, i prefer to just download my games. Tool. __________________ 309th Wild Ducks www.56thvfw.com

04-10-07, 10:52 PM	#20
Quillan Samurai Navy Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 579 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	The issues with the downloaded versions are two: bandwidth and patches. You need a good broadband connection to download a game; Medieval 2 Total War came in at nearly 10 gigs in size, IIRC. Not everyone has that. The more pressing issue at least to me is patches. If you purchase a download version of the game, you generally cannot use the regular patches. They add in the disk check! You of course don't have a disk, so then you can't even play the game. Usually the versions for downloaded games come out later than the patch versions for the retail purchase games. This isn't always true; Ubi was quite good about simultaneous release of the patches for both the DVD and downloaded versions of SH3, and I expect that to continue with SH4. __________________ We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, that we are now qualified to do anything with nothing.

04-11-07, 10:01 AM	#22
Quillan Samurai Navy Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 579 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I agree with you on the copy protection. It seems a waste of time to me; all copy protection eventually can be circumvented and the pirates are going to distribute cracked copies regardless. To those of us who pay for the games, it does nothing but cause us inconvenience and problems. However, I don't think any solution is perfect. __________________ We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, that we are now qualified to do anything with nothing.

04-11-07, 10:30 AM	#24
plaice Swabbie Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	mouse problem Is anyone having a problem with the mouse not being stable while trying to play the game. I am having this problem an you really cann't do much with this game without using the mouse. __________________ Sub Hunt. am having a problem with it crashing and coming up with a blank screen. then is states sh blanket. any help would be appreciated.

04-10-07, 06:48 PM	#16
boatfull Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Most computers come with 2 or more disc drives(Mine did anyways)Make sure you use the same disc drive that you installed the game from.I installed mine using a DVDRW + - drive and since I use that drive for other things I sometimes mix my Dvd's up.

04-11-07, 02:06 AM	#21
Fearless Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 1,047 Downloads: 340 Uploads: 1	Ah yes but patch 1.1 is for both dvd and downloadable version. My argument is that you do not need to have a dvd rom in the drive for a downloaded version of SH4 but you do for the purchased off the shelve one. So why should some people that bought off the shelve have to suffer the consequences of the program not running because of the security access issue with DVD R/RW not being suitable. It should apply to both versions not just one. Alternatively get rid of that security crap alltogether. Why make dvd versions of it anyway. Granted some comp systems have slow downloads but at the end of the day no dvd is needed in the drive to make it game work.

04-11-07, 10:25 AM	#23
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Hell cracked copies were up before the game hit the shelves. They had a few "issues" though

10-07-07, 01:29 PM	#27
mrdak Nub Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Hello, I own a retail version of SH4, and for a while I was just sliping the DVD in the drive because I thought it was necessary. I even used nero to make a copy of the DVD so I could use the copy, and save the original disk. I used the copy in my NEC DVD RW ND-3540A drive thinking I neede it in there in order to run the game. Just for the heck of it, I tried running the game with no disk, and she runs just fine. Why do you think I don't need the disk? Did UBI add that feature to the 1.3 patch? Hey, I'm glad I don't need it in there, but I'm guessing I'm not alone here............ am I?