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Old 04-02-07, 03:59 PM   #16
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I have burned flags
and you know which and why i suppose
A Palestinian like many
Mere flag burning is so passé now. Latest trend from America is to crap on a burning flag:

"Perhaps the most disturbing scene of the afternoon, however, involved the man who pulled down his pants in front of women and children and defecated on a burning U.S. flag. This disgusting act actually elicited cheers from some members of the crowd, but we hope that the emotion it produces in the community is one of revulsion"-
http://www.portlandtribune.com/opini...59283544877600

Well, can you keep up with that?
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Old 04-02-07, 04:06 PM   #17
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Old 04-02-07, 05:25 PM   #18
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Interesting thread. I have a question. What do you do with a flag that is distressed or tattered beyond repair? If I recall correctly, doesn't federal law dictate that the only acceptable method of disposal is burning?
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Old 04-02-07, 05:30 PM   #19
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Interesting thread. I have a question. What do you do with a flag that is distressed or tattered beyond repair? If I recall correctly, doesn't federal law dictate that the only acceptable method of disposal is burning?
You are correct Ishmael, but the service is a humble and respectful one. But those who burn the flag for political reasons do so out of disregard and disrespect.
 
Old 04-02-07, 05:36 PM   #20
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If they want to burn the flag, let them. I don't want any laws to forbid that. To me, burning the flag is like a childish rant that solves nothing. Just like most protests. They accomplish absolutely nothing. Burn it up, and look like a fool doing so, IMO.
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Old 04-02-07, 05:50 PM   #21
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Interesting thread. I have a question. What do you do with a flag that is distressed or tattered beyond repair? If I recall correctly, doesn't federal law dictate that the only acceptable method of disposal is burning?
Burning is one way to dispose of an unservicable flag but certainly not in the middle of a city square by a bunch of jerks who dance around it squealing with glee.
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Old 04-02-07, 07:00 PM   #22
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Cant see any issue. Setting fire to a painted big of canvas. Its not like you've just nuked a major city is it.

Anyone offended by such things should really grow up and realise there are far more serious things in the world and not everyone shares the same views as them.
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Old 04-02-07, 07:09 PM   #23
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gnirtS try loooking at that piece of canvas as symbolic for something just a little bit more significant. I know i do, i, i know most my mates do, and i surmise most people do as well.

the burning of a symbol is merely another way of saying "i hate everything that this flag (or symbol) represents". You think the crazies in SW Asia and the ME burn the US (and british) flags to stay warm??

As far as im concerned, if someone is game enough to burn the flag of the country that they live in, they can bugger off someplace else, where they might not hate things as much - of course, then they'd be subject to much harsher laws, probably less social welfare and health benefits, and probably not as comfortable abodes. funny, isnt it.
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Old 04-02-07, 07:17 PM   #24
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As long as they buy their flag supply from me...

Nope, if I sold flags, I wouldn't sell any to them.

These geniuses are protesting against global warming one day and the next they're polluting the air and consuming cloth, ink, whatever the fabric came from and the energy spent in each of these steps.

Real smart. It's people we can trust to save the planet.
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Old 04-02-07, 07:49 PM   #25
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If a foreigner burns a U.S. flag I couldn't care less. If an American burns the flag, that spikes out my temper meter. Luckily for me I've never been around an incident.
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gnirtS try loooking at that piece of canvas as symbolic for something just a little bit more significant. I know i do, i, i know most my mates do, and i surmise most people do as well.

the burning of a symbol is merely another way of saying "i hate everything that this flag (or symbol) represents". You think the crazies in SW Asia and the ME burn the US (and british) flags to stay warm??
Makes no difference to me. So they dislike the country. Fair enough, thats their right. Most of the world now does. I've got no problem with someone choosing to express their anger by burning a flag. Again its not exactly causing carnage, loss of life or the end of the world.
People are quite entitled to like/dislike what ever they want. Stopping them burning a flag changes nothing about their hatred for something - its just another ludicrous law invented by an idiot with an irrational oversensitivity toward things.


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As far as im concerned, if someone is game enough to burn the flag of the country that they live in, they can bugger off someplace else, where they might not hate things as much - of course, then they'd be subject to much harsher laws, probably less social welfare and health benefits, and probably not as comfortable abodes. funny, isnt it.
But a lot of the people doing the flag burning DONT live in the country they dislike.
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See Brads reply gnirt. There's a significant difference between a foreigner burning a flag and a citizen buring his own countries flag. It's a slap in his fellow citizens faces and it's small wonder that they want to slap him back.

You have to understand, Americans tend to see the US flag as THEIR symbol, not the symbol of the government. You drive down nearly any neighborhood street in the country and you'll see US flags fluttering from houses and from poles planted in the front yard all over the place. No government man came to them and told them to put it there. They bought them and put them up on their own accord.

When you understand the depth of feeling this represents it becomes clearer why flag desecration is so frowned upon here. It's akin to someone pissing on your front doorstep. That's worth at least a punch in the nose in my book, maybe even a swift kick in the butt as well.

It's even worse when it's done by some ignorant but nonetheless self righteous young punk who is doing it mainly for the fun of griefing people and causing a sensation.
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Old 04-03-07, 02:27 AM   #28
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Burning the flag of ones own country is a sign of treason.
I have nothing wrong with treason, treason is what freed England from monarchist rule.
Treason is also what made America independent from the UK. I am sure the British colonists in America burnt one or two flags!

Treason makes the people strong and the ruling powers weak. If people are unhappy with their country, then they should have a right to show their unrest with flag burning.

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Treason makes the people strong and the ruling powers weak. If people are unhappy with their country, then they should have a right to show their unrest with flag burning.
Hoo Yeah
I totally agree
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Old 04-03-07, 10:51 AM   #30
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See Brads reply gnirt. There's a significant difference between a foreigner burning a flag and a citizen buring his own countries flag. It's a slap in his fellow citizens faces and it's small wonder that they want to slap him back.
Still dont see the issue. You cant choose where you're born or your nationality. Lots of people do not like their country, its government or something else but are stuck with it. If they want to protest and burn something then so be it. Im ashamed of a lot of what Britain has done lately. Im not about to go and buy a union flag and burn it but quite happy if someone else does.
People just expressing their dislike for something is fair enough in my view. Im Welsh but if i saw someone for some reason burning the welsh flag i'd have no problem with that. Its their call.


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You have to understand, Americans tend to see the US flag as THEIR symbol, not the symbol of the government.
Thats their fault for being oversensitive and intolerant towards others views.
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