[REL] Real Medals v1.01 - Page 2

fullmetaledges · 03-30-07, 08:48 PM

maybe later

Lukemb · 04-01-07, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by modisch

Any chance of replacing the Purple Heart? going on the mechanics of the game, it's just the first "nice job" medal as opposed to dealing with injury in the line of duty. It'd be nice to have something else...

Maybe a good conduct medal? or the legion of merit? Kinda hard to find another medal that is time period appropriate. Perhaps any of our naval/history/military buffs could help pick one.

-m

Some historically accurate medals that may fit in the game would be:
- Legion of Merit (since Oct. 1942)
- Navy Commendation ribbon (since Jan. 1944 - now called Navy & Marine Corps Commendation medal)
- Navy Good Conduct medal
- Asiatic/Pacific Campaign ribbon (since Nov. 1942 - a medal was created after the war)

The only problem is that giving these medals since Dec. 1941 is not very realistic but... who cares! at least it's better than the current system.

DeePsix501 · 04-01-07, 04:15 AM

Love the Mod! Makes it feal real!

Just a question though, I loaded a post patrol career, when I had some medals to give out. When issued the medals the crew got Bronze Stars but when you cursor over them they are called "Wounded Medal" The medal next to it is the purple heart, but when you cursor over it, it is the Patrol Star or somthing close. Since the wounded medal represents wounded men but is given out like pats on the back, did you replace it with it with the bronze star for more accuracy? Or should the Bronze star be the patrol star and the wounded medal be the purple heart?

hyperion2206 · 04-01-07, 04:39 AM

I really love your mod, it's great!

I've got a question however: Do you know where the files are that gives you the text when you recieve a medal? You know the text saying: "Lt. Cdr. XYZ was awarded this medal while in command of USS ABC etc."
I have the German version of the game and don't get such a text, just the medal and the normal background and that sucks!
Can anybody help me to get these text files?

fullmetaledges · 04-01-07, 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeePsix501

Love the Mod! Makes it feal real!

Just a question though, I loaded a post patrol career, when I had some medals to give out. When issued the medals the crew got Bronze Stars but when you cursor over them they are called "Wounded Medal" The medal next to it is the purple heart, but when you cursor over it, it is the Patrol Star or somthing close. Since the wounded medal represents wounded men but is given out like pats on the back, did you replace it with it with the bronze star for more accuracy? Or should the Bronze star be the patrol star and the wounded medal be the purple heart?

Yes I changed the order of the medals because it was giving them out wrong. The default way was that the navy cross was the highest award so since I couldn't find the .cfg file, this was what I decided on doing instead.

fullmetaledges · 04-01-07, 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyperion2206

I really love your mod, it's great!

I've got a question however: Do you know where the files are that gives you the text when you recieve a medal? You know the text saying: "Lt. Cdr. XYZ was awarded this medal while in command of USS ABC etc."
I have the German version of the game and don't get such a text, just the medal and the normal background and that sucks!
Can anybody help me to get these text files?

That file is located in \Ubisoft\Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific\Data\Menu\menu.txt

line 5890

hyperion2206 · 04-01-07, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullmetaledges

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyperion2206

I really love your mod, it's great!

I've got a question however: Do you know where the files are that gives you the text when you recieve a medal? You know the text saying: "Lt. Cdr. XYZ was awarded this medal while in command of USS ABC etc."
I have the German version of the game and don't get such a text, just the medal and the normal background and that sucks!
Can anybody help me to get these text files?

That file is located in \Ubisoft\Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific\Data\Menu\menu.txt

line 5890

I do have that line, but it's never shown when I'm awarded a medal.

Beery · 04-01-07, 11:01 AM

If anyone can clean up the lines of the medals so that they line up properly that would be great. I've been messing with it but I haven't had enough time to really concentrate on it. Also, if there's still an issue with the mouseover texts, I think they are kept in one of the base text files for the game (menu.txt, medals.upc). It might be worth a try to change the order of these - might fix the problem.

nimitstexan · 04-01-07, 01:11 PM

My guess would be UPCLocalizations.tsr . . .

;UPCCrewData\Medals.upc
Wounded medal=Bronze Star
Medal of valor=Navy Distinguished Service Medal
Victory cross=Medal of Honor
Submarine service medal=Purple Heart
Patrol star=Navy Cross
Campaign star=Silver Star

Jace11 · 04-01-07, 01:29 PM

Im working on that at the moment, and fixing the alphas and getting the order right so they are awarded for the right thing... if you follow the games medal order you can work it out I think.

The order I think works is

5150=Medals
5151=Navy Distinguished Service Medal
5152=Purple Heart
5153=Bronze Star
5154=Congressional Medal of Honor
5155=Silver Star
5156=Navy Cross

As originally this was...

5150=Medals
5151=Submarine Service Medal
5152=Wounded Medal
5153=Patrol Star
5154=Medal of Valor
5155=Campaign Star
5156=Victory Cross

These tally quite well in terms of shapes of medals, names and value..

The order full uses:

5150=Medals
5151=Purple Heart
5152=Bronze Star
5153=Silver Star
5154=Navy Distinguished Service Medal
5155=Navy Cross
5156=Medal of Honor

therefore injured people get the bronze star with this order, which can't be right, though I appreciate that the awards to the player seem too high.

but if you swap them in the list to the correct order, you have to swap the pics in the dds files... which takes time.

One problem I am having is loss of colour quality as I swap from psd to dds file format.. anyone know how to get the best quality dds and what is the highest format the game will tolerate??

One further way to check is to look at savegames... in the camapaigntrack file it gives the initials of the awards, so far I have only been given a CMOH (which appeared as a medal of valor). I need to check SS and BS but I havent been awarded these yet...

I think just cause you do well and get the CMOH on your first mission, doesnt mean the order is wrong... the order your crew get awarded seems relatively ok...

Thoughts...

nimitstexan · 04-01-07, 01:39 PM

I think the problem (as others have reported it) is the game was not using the wounded medal as such, but rather awarding it just like any other medal. Do you have actual experiance of the game limiting the "wounded medal" just to wounded crewmen?

Jace11 · 04-01-07, 01:49 PM

Well yes... I took a shell in after torp room and had all 3 watches get injured (though only slightly...) when I got back to base they were several wounded medals to be awarded and they could all have been recipients...

I thought it was working fine...

fullmetaledges · 04-01-07, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jace11

Im working on that at the moment, and fixing the alphas and getting the order right so they are awarded for the right thing... if you follow the games medal order you can work it out I think.

The order I think works is

5150=Medals
5151=Navy Distinguished Service Medal
5152=Purple Heart
5153=Bronze Star
5154=Congressional Medal of Honor
5155=Silver Star
5156=Navy Cross

As originally this was...

5150=Medals
5151=Submarine Service Medal
5152=Wounded Medal
5153=Patrol Star
5154=Medal of Valor
5155=Campaign Star
5156=Victory Cross

These tally quite well in terms of shapes of medals, names and value..

The order full uses:

5150=Medals
5151=Purple Heart
5152=Bronze Star
5153=Silver Star
5154=Navy Distinguished Service Medal
5155=Navy Cross
5156=Medal of Honor

therefore injured people get the bronze star with this order, which can't be right, though I appreciate that the awards to the player seem too high.

but if you swap them in the list to the correct order, you have to swap the pics in the dds files... which takes time.

One problem I am having is loss of colour quality as I swap from psd to dds file format.. anyone know how to get the best quality dds and what is the highest format the game will tolerate??

One further way to check is to look at savegames... in the camapaigntrack file it gives the initials of the awards, so far I have only been given a CMOH (which appeared as a medal of valor). I need to check SS and BS but I havent been awarded these yet...

I think just cause you do well and get the CMOH on your first mission, doesnt mean the order is wrong... the order your crew get awarded seems relatively ok...

Thoughts...

the reason I changed the order is because if you use the default order of

5150=Medals
5151=Navy Distinguished Service Medal
5152=Purple Heart
5153=Bronze Star
5154=Congressional Medal of Honor
5155=Silver Star
5156=Navy Cross

the game treats that as the order in which to award the medals. Try it, I did, have a 65,000 ton patrol and you will be awarded the navy cross, the crew will get multiple medals of honor and purple hearts will be given out for successful patrols. With the order that I used I havent had 1 purple heart given out, all bronze stars, and silver stars. I avg about 25,000 tons. Don't go back to the original way the game lists the medals of it will screw up the awarding of them. if you don't believe me check out the way they did it before they put in the fake medals.

Jace11 · 04-01-07, 03:13 PM

hmm you may have a point that higher value medals are awarded too easily, I havent seen that with the crew on my patrols though. When people got injured, they got a WM when we got back to base... I got some decent medals for my officers but not MoV (CMOH) though I was awarded one...

Well, as it stands I have the menu.txt graphics, etc set up for the order I posted above. If there is a problem with what is awarded, then it may be due to game logic, scoring and difficulty etc, if those thing get fixed then I can always post up the finished files as they are done now... I better do a bit of testing etc...

What difficulty did you do your patrol on?

fullmetaledges · 04-01-07, 03:21 PM

second from the highest, I also have those files because I just replaced the names and images of the awards originally but after getting the MOH for 45,000 tons and the Navy Cross for 75,000 ton patrols I decided that that was not right. I can't find the .cfg file that gives the criteria for awarding the awards so for now changing the order is the work around to it awarding the medals in the wrong order.

04-01-07, 04:15 AM	#18
DeePsix501 Navy Dude Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: College Station, Texas Posts: 173 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Love the Mod! Makes it feal real! Just a question though, I loaded a post patrol career, when I had some medals to give out. When issued the medals the crew got Bronze Stars but when you cursor over them they are called "Wounded Medal" The medal next to it is the purple heart, but when you cursor over it, it is the Patrol Star or somthing close. Since the wounded medal represents wounded men but is given out like pats on the back, did you replace it with it with the bronze star for more accuracy? Or should the Bronze star be the patrol star and the wounded medal be the purple heart? __________________ In Memory of the USS Triton (SS-201) - May We Never Forget Those On Eternal Patrol

04-01-07, 04:39 AM	#19
hyperion2206 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cologne, Germany Posts: 1,227 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I really love your mod, it's great! I've got a question however: Do you know where the files are that gives you the text when you recieve a medal? You know the text saying: "Lt. Cdr. XYZ was awarded this medal while in command of USS ABC etc." I have the German version of the game and don't get such a text, just the medal and the normal background and that sucks! Can anybody help me to get these text files? __________________ Career of Captain Jack Shaftoe:

04-01-07, 11:01 AM	#23
Beery Admiral Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Silver Spring, MD, USA (but still a Yorkshireman at heart - tha can allus tell a Yorkshireman...) Posts: 2,497 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	If anyone can clean up the lines of the medals so that they line up properly that would be great. I've been messing with it but I haven't had enough time to really concentrate on it. Also, if there's still an issue with the mouseover texts, I think they are kept in one of the base text files for the game (menu.txt, medals.upc). It might be worth a try to change the order of these - might fix the problem. __________________ "More mysterious. Yeah. I'll just try to think, 'Where the hell's the whiskey?'" - Bob Harris, Lost in Translation. "Anyrooad up, ah'll si thi" - Missen.

04-01-07, 01:11 PM	#24
nimitstexan Loader Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 87 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	My guess would be UPCLocalizations.tsr . . . ;UPCCrewData\Medals.upc Wounded medal=Bronze Star Medal of valor=Navy Distinguished Service Medal Victory cross=Medal of Honor Submarine service medal=Purple Heart Patrol star=Navy Cross Campaign star=Silver Star Last edited by nimitstexan; 04-01-07 at 01:33 PM.

03-30-07, 08:48 PM	#16
fullmetaledges Chief Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 314 Downloads: 120 Uploads: 0	maybe later

04-01-07, 01:29 PM	#25
Jace11 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Posts: 683 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 1	Im working on that at the moment, and fixing the alphas and getting the order right so they are awarded for the right thing... if you follow the games medal order you can work it out I think. The order I think works is 5150=Medals 5151=Navy Distinguished Service Medal 5152=Purple Heart 5153=Bronze Star 5154=Congressional Medal of Honor 5155=Silver Star 5156=Navy Cross As originally this was... 5150=Medals 5151=Submarine Service Medal 5152=Wounded Medal 5153=Patrol Star 5154=Medal of Valor 5155=Campaign Star 5156=Victory Cross These tally quite well in terms of shapes of medals, names and value.. The order full uses: 5150=Medals 5151=Purple Heart 5152=Bronze Star 5153=Silver Star 5154=Navy Distinguished Service Medal 5155=Navy Cross 5156=Medal of Honor therefore injured people get the bronze star with this order, which can't be right, though I appreciate that the awards to the player seem too high. but if you swap them in the list to the correct order, you have to swap the pics in the dds files... which takes time. One problem I am having is loss of colour quality as I swap from psd to dds file format.. anyone know how to get the best quality dds and what is the highest format the game will tolerate?? One further way to check is to look at savegames... in the camapaigntrack file it gives the initials of the awards, so far I have only been given a CMOH (which appeared as a medal of valor). I need to check SS and BS but I havent been awarded these yet... I think just cause you do well and get the CMOH on your first mission, doesnt mean the order is wrong... the order your crew get awarded seems relatively ok... Thoughts...

04-01-07, 01:39 PM	#26
nimitstexan Loader Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 87 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	I think the problem (as others have reported it) is the game was not using the wounded medal as such, but rather awarding it just like any other medal. Do you have actual experiance of the game limiting the "wounded medal" just to wounded crewmen?

04-01-07, 01:49 PM	#27
Jace11 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Posts: 683 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 1	Well yes... I took a shell in after torp room and had all 3 watches get injured (though only slightly...) when I got back to base they were several wounded medals to be awarded and they could all have been recipients... I thought it was working fine...

04-01-07, 03:13 PM	#29
Jace11 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Posts: 683 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 1	hmm you may have a point that higher value medals are awarded too easily, I havent seen that with the crew on my patrols though. When people got injured, they got a WM when we got back to base... I got some decent medals for my officers but not MoV (CMOH) though I was awarded one... Well, as it stands I have the menu.txt graphics, etc set up for the order I posted above. If there is a problem with what is awarded, then it may be due to game logic, scoring and difficulty etc, if those thing get fixed then I can always post up the finished files as they are done now... I better do a bit of testing etc... What difficulty did you do your patrol on?

04-01-07, 03:21 PM	#30
fullmetaledges Chief Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 314 Downloads: 120 Uploads: 0	second from the highest, I also have those files because I just replaced the names and images of the awards originally but after getting the MOH for 45,000 tons and the Navy Cross for 75,000 ton patrols I decided that that was not right. I can't find the .cfg file that gives the criteria for awarding the awards so for now changing the order is the work around to it awarding the medals in the wrong order.