What Year Will missions start ?? 39 ? - Page 2

CCIP · 03-16-07, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

You forgot about the moon landing enactment. Oh, and the Illuminati.

Quite unknown to the Americans, Yamato was the first ship to land on the moon in 1940

joea · 03-16-07, 04:13 PM

In all seriousness, to CCIP's comment about Japan not being at war either (at sea) except for China. Well, my reading has indicated that the Japanese Navy was involved in supporting the Army's campaign in China, kind of like the USN did later in Vietnam, or in the Atlantic after Allied landings in Italy and France. Their naval airpower was involved, and even used from the carriers sometimes, and ships provided support (gunfire etc.) even saw a pic of a DD (not a frigate or such but a fleet DD) in the Yangtze. OF course, China had no real naval opposition, but the IJN was peripherally involved in a shooting war.

Sailor Steve · 03-16-07, 04:17 PM

Okay, that's it. My sub will be USS Whatthefark?

CCIP · 03-16-07, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Okay, that's it. My sub will be USS Whatthefark?

What, the britishers have sold her?

And yes, I realize about the naval support in China, though in all fairness it's but a fine point which I fully realize. Not really a war at sea in the sense of ship vs. ship fighting. In the same sense, while the navy might be involved in American operations in Iraq or Afghanistan today, and Navy personnel are involved in combat duty, I don't consider them sea wars.

I don't think we had a naval war as such since the falklands, right?

Anyway, even a hypothetical 1939 naval war wouldn't be all that interesting. The Kriegsmarine would be crushed a lot more quickly with a full American committment; the Japanese would also have a rather incomplete naval buildup; the Fleet Boats would be in their infancy. So I think that's a case where a what-if isn't as interesting as the real thing was. :hmm:

Crosseye76 · 03-16-07, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CCIP

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

You forgot about the moon landing enactment. Oh, and the Illuminati.

Quite unknown to the Americans, Yamato was the first ship to land on the moon in 1940

Ha !!1! I knew it !

Shaffer4 · 03-16-07, 08:58 PM

Gah!, nobody remembers the Battle of The Sea of Traquility!

RDDR · 03-16-07, 09:51 PM

I love this.
Now if we can just keep this thread going strong until the 20th,or 22nd,or the 23rd,or the.....

dean_acheson · 03-16-07, 09:55 PM

Oh, i am sure that we can.

Torplexed · 03-16-07, 09:58 PM

I remember weeks ago we had a thread started by some guy who wanted to avenge Pearl Harbour on day one by taking his sub out of Pearl Harbour on December 7th and attacking the Japanese carrier fleet single-handedly as it cruised off Oahu. I think we eventually convinced him it wasn't gonna be possible given the surface speed of a US sub and that of the average Japanese surface ship, plus the vast distance away the Japanese were when they launched the attack.

flyingdane · 03-16-07, 10:00 PM

I will tell you what my first mission will be... to Kick the japanese out of the pacific.

DaMaGe007 · 03-17-07, 12:10 AM

I think they could start in 39 or any other year if they wanted.

Wouldnt there have been sub patrols just for normal military operations and security ? You wouldnt be allowed to attack but you could patrol and watch.
Boring for some I know, but some people would like the quiet time before the war, so you are immersed at the very beginning.

That being said, I think its a pearl harbour start.

Tigrone · 03-17-07, 12:37 AM

Let the poor troll die. It's enough to kill him, vivisect him, and put him on display. Strapping him across the hood of a jeep like road kill is a bit much.

Sailor Steve · 03-17-07, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by CCIP

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Okay, that's it. My sub will be USS Whatthefark?

What, the britishers have sold her?

Lots of US ships have British names. Captured ships have descendants too, you know.:rotfl:

Rip · 03-17-07, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaMaGe007

I think they could start in 39 or any other year if they wanted.

Wouldnt there have been sub patrols just for normal military operations and security ? You wouldnt be allowed to attack but you could patrol and watch.
Boring for some I know, but some people would like the quiet time before the war, so you are immersed at the very beginning.

That being said, I think its a pearl harbour start.

Yea, it would rock to commision a Gato and have to do sea trial, weapons certs, and sail her to the pacific. Good chance to get in some crew training and experience the shift of ROE. It would do a lot for the immersion factor.

03-17-07, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CCIP

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Originally Posted by canimodo

in this case we lose 2 years of war !!

Haha, what war?

It's an American subsim; there weren't no war for the Americans at the time - nor the Japanese, at least at sea (though China was an ongoing issue of course).

So, sure, you can probably change the date - but eh, what would you do? Cruise around the pacific soaking in the sunshine and waving to neutral Japanese merchants?

No, no, NO. You spend the time crusing from island to island educating the Hula girls about torpedos....

Torpedo impact!
Shes going down!

03-16-07, 04:17 PM	#18
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Okay, that's it. My sub will be USS Whatthefark? __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

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Shaffer4 Ensign Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Walla Walla, Wa Posts: 223 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Gah!, nobody remembers the Battle of The Sea of Traquility! __________________

03-16-07, 09:58 PM	#24
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	I remember weeks ago we had a thread started by some guy who wanted to avenge Pearl Harbour on day one by taking his sub out of Pearl Harbour on December 7th and attacking the Japanese carrier fleet single-handedly as it cruised off Oahu. I think we eventually convinced him it wasn't gonna be possible given the surface speed of a US sub and that of the average Japanese surface ship, plus the vast distance away the Japanese were when they launched the attack. __________________ --Mobilis in Mobili--

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flyingdane Weps Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 355 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	I will tell you what my first mission will be... to Kick the japanese out of the pacific. __________________ It denos't mtater waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, it's olny iprmoatnt taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae.The rset can be a total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelms.Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

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Tigrone Commander Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 470 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	What Year Will missions start ?? 39 ? Let the poor troll die. It's enough to kill him, vivisect him, and put him on display. Strapping him across the hood of a jeep like road kill is a bit much. __________________ Commander Hiram Cassedy: "Tigrone has saved the Air Force and is now returning to Iwo Jima with 28 rescued zoomies." B-29 SNUFFY & THE SHIF'LESS SKONKS among them. I've a broom at the mast said he, for the broom is a sign for me, that wherever I go, I sweep the mighty sea.

03-16-07, 04:13 PM	#17
joea Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: At periscope depth in Lake Geneva Posts: 3,512 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	In all seriousness, to CCIP's comment about Japan not being at war either (at sea) except for China. Well, my reading has indicated that the Japanese Navy was involved in supporting the Army's campaign in China, kind of like the USN did later in Vietnam, or in the Atlantic after Allied landings in Italy and France. Their naval airpower was involved, and even used from the carriers sometimes, and ships provided support (gunfire etc.) even saw a pic of a DD (not a frigate or such but a fleet DD) in the Yangtze. OF course, China had no real naval opposition, but the IJN was peripherally involved in a shooting war.

03-16-07, 09:51 PM	#22
RDDR Bosun Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 67 Downloads: 49 Uploads: 0	I love this. Now if we can just keep this thread going strong until the 20th,or 22nd,or the 23rd,or the.....

03-16-07, 09:55 PM	#23
dean_acheson Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Midwest - USA Posts: 1,057 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	Oh, i am sure that we can.

03-17-07, 12:10 AM	#26
DaMaGe007 Watch Officer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 338 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I think they could start in 39 or any other year if they wanted. Wouldnt there have been sub patrols just for normal military operations and security ? You wouldnt be allowed to attack but you could patrol and watch. Boring for some I know, but some people would like the quiet time before the war, so you are immersed at the very beginning. That being said, I think its a pearl harbour start.