REL- Unofficial fix for GWX's lack of Aircraft

[bigboywooly]

Install via JSGME
The warning is just to inform you the lnd was changed once before
As you know it was in Dec 23rd patch there is no problem

[Phoenix3000]

Ah, ok - thanks for clearing that up.

Installing it now.

Cheers!

Px3000

[Ducimus]

Yeah, what i meant was that *I* installed the Offical GWX december corrections without using JSGME. WHich is the reason why a file confliction warning from JSGME never even crossed my mind.

But since most likely most people installed the GWX dec corrections via JSGME, they'll recieve this warning. Ignore this warning and istall this mod VIA JSGME anyway. The LND file used by my mod is originally from the december corrections.

[AndyW]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Does that mean this mod is working as advertised? Like i said, i only lighty tested it to make sure i was seeing more planes. (IE, I ran through biscay only a couple times in 42,43, and 44 )

EDIT: If you are seriously experiencing too many night air attacks, go the the data/cfg folder in this mod, open up Airstrike.cfg and find this value:

Oh, that's a misunderstanding: I dodn't use your "more aircraft" mod, I just use plain GWX 23rd.

Maybe there is a lack of aircraft in GWX in the early years (I didn't try that), but certainly not in late 43/ early 44! Reading the "success stories" from other posters from 1939-42 makes me feel like reading from a different world (or maybe I'm just extremely unlucky to draw the attention of the entire Allied Air Force on my sub ).

BTW, I meanwhile crept from St. Nazaire to the outer limits of the 1943 Allied Air coverage boundaries (BE58, some 1,500 km west of France) and to my amazement I have to realize that I still get attacked every 3 to 4 hours if surfaced no matter if at day or night. To make it worse, I'm suddenly getting attacked at night from very short distances without my radar warning devices (naxos, metox) telling me like theyused to do until a few days ago. Either a new wavelength used by the Allies or my radar warning devices are broken (but the damage screen says it's O.K.) :hmm:

That means, from now on I have do drive surfaced during the day and submerged at night because at daytime I see the enemy aircraft from 3-4 km, while at night they bomb me before I can see them (at 128x TC).

I wouldn't bet a Reichsmark that I return home save. Realistically there's nothing more I can do with 3 to 4 air attacks every day or night, but crash diving every 3 or 4 hours. I have no schnorchel and the heavy air coverage in GWX is my main and only concern in this game, I feel like a rabbit in a birdcage full of hawks.

What I'm trying to say is that I appreciate your work, but a "lack of aircraft" is the last deficiency in GWX I can see - at least in the time period I'm currently playing (late 43/ early 44).

Cheers

[Ducimus]

Weird.

I didn't see squat for aircraft in 42, 43, and even into some test career games in 44. (albiet weather and TC settings could have alot to do with out) Seriously, i cruised biscay bay in mid 43 in an IXD2, and both coming and going, didnt see ONE aircraft. NONE at all. I saw aircraft ONCE that entire patrol and that was out of Durban harbor because an airbase is also positioned there. Other then that, nothing at all.

All that, and memories of past games where in 44, you couldnt run on the surface for more then an hour, and in 43 i could barely stay up long enough to get a full battery recharge in the carribean, often diving at 90% capcity, is what prompted the motivation to ramp up the aircraft.

[Hartmann]

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POSSIBLE ISSUES:
You may experience an overabundance of aircraft and/or experience an airstrike while leaving port.

great !! like the real life

[andy_311]

Am getting swamped by them trying to get back to my base Jakarta 45 my IXD2 has ran out of ammo twice trying to knock them out of the sky and "CD" is not an option the water is too shallow.

[Letum]

Is the whole of the north sea coverd by air after late 43?

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Letum

Is the whole of the north sea coverd by air after late 43?

Guaging by andy_311 post, id say you probably have black clouds of them in the north by late 43.

If you have too many aircraft.... well.. I warned you!
Kidding aside

If you feel there are too many planes then assuming you make it back to port , disable the mod, and delete the LAND directory from within the mod. I added extra squadrons to airbases (2 to 4 sqadrons, default was 1 or 2), then re enable the mod. This should remove alot of the planes.

[Letum]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Guaging by andy_311 post, id say you probably have black clouds of them in the north by late 43.

If you have too many aircraft.... well.. I warned you!
Kidding aside

If you feel there are too many planes then assuming you make it back to port , disable the mod, and delete the LAND directory from within the mod. I added extra squadrons to airbases (2 to 4 sqadrons, default was 1 or 2), then re enable the mod. This should remove alot of the planes.

Gargh! *shoots self*

I ment the atlantic, not the North Sea

[Ducimus]

I dont remember offhand. I didnt look at that area in the LND layer My focus was primarly on getting more aircraft onto the player, and making biscay bay live up to its historical nickname of "the suicide stretch".

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"It's always the same routine. Get up on the surface to catch a mouthful of air. Snatch a minute when tommy isn't looking, duck as soon as he moves around, and surface again when you think he has turned his back. The trick is to find the right moment to take your chance." - Herbert A Werner, Circa June/july 1944

[Letum]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

I dont remember offhand. I didnt look at that area in the LND layer My focus was primarly on getting more aircraft onto the player, and making biscay bay live up to its historical nickname of "the suicide stretch".

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"It's always the same routine. Get up on the surface to catch a mouthful of air. Snatch a minute when tommy isn't looking, duck as soon as he moves around, and surface again when you think he has turned his back. The trick is to find the right moment to take your chance." - Herbert A Werner, Circa June/july 1944

It would be great if you could implement the "air gap" in the mid Atlantic south of Iceland/Greenland.

The closing of the Air Gap in '43 was a major factor in the elimination of the u-boat threat.

[Ducimus]

What im really looking for right now is feedback.

Is this too much?

Thats my worry, and my gut feeling. But of course, "too much" is a matter of opinion, which varies from person to person. If you use low time compression, say, 256 and below, then yes this is probably too much. If you use 512 to 1024, then maybe not.

[Tijn]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

What im really looking for right now is feedback.

Is this too much?

Thats my worry, and my gut feeling. But of course, "too much" is a matter of opinion, which varies from person to person. If you use low time compression, say, 256 and below, then yes this is probably too much. If you use 512 to 1024, then maybe not.

Ducimus, do you play at high or low TC? i normally play at high TC because i don't have much time to play SH3 and i might give this a try(ok and maybe i'm just impatient). I'm still in 1942 but i would like to see the difference with GW 1.1, wich was weak when it comes down to air coverage.

Nice one El Duc-i-mus.....gonna try this tonight as I encountered no planes surface crossin BOB in IXB during Jan 43.

For the high TCs out there, i would recommend crossing the Bay of Biscay (BoB) at 256 max....I know you probably don't have a lot of time to play hence the use of high TC but if you cross BoB at TC > 256 then air attacks are more erratic (your WO will also spot them a little later than you'd like). It doesn't take that long at 256....personally, I cross at 64 or 128 depending on my mood.

Cheers, Hans