TDC manuals (Real)

[pickinthebanjo]

Yeah the concensus seems to want that zipped up so I Will do it you'll just have to give me some time (I hate posting crap, it takes forever)

For any confused people seeing this thread, it has changed into a thread about anything technical to do with Submarines (1900-1970)

[Laufen zum Ziel]

That is a fantastic find

[Kafka BC]

Those piping diagrams bring back bad memories of when I was a marine engineering cadet in 1982.

During my month long work term aboard the Imperial St. Clair, a tanker, I had to trace and draw the entire piping system of the ship as part of my training program. It was hard following the convoluted jumble they became at times while working twelve hour shifts (mostly as a wiper and lackey - the mop became a good friend), trying to catch sleep...and being seasick. The Chief Engineer finally lent me the blueprints of the ship so that I could finish...god bless him.

Bad memories and all, I'll take 'em if you got 'em. They are a treasure.

[headcase]

Sweet man. Now All I need is a degree in Naval Architecture and a welding rig so I can build my own! Not that I ever would of course...

[Rhodes]

Love those kind of schematics! Thanks

[pickinthebanjo]

Originally Posted by Kafka BC

During my month long work term aboard the Imperial St. Clair, a tanker, I had to trace and draw the entire piping system of the ship as part of my training program. It was hard following the convoluted jumble they became at times while working twelve hour shifts (mostly as a wiper and lackey - the mop became a good friend), trying to catch sleep...and being seasick.

I always find that the first few days aboard are the worst, after that it's not so bad (at least not on the fishing barge). What gets me is after returning to the pier and I still feel like I'm on the barge for the next couple hours.

Whats it like aboard a tanker? On the barge I worked on we got rocked around pretty good.

[JMV]

May be we should ask SIEMENS for the TDC manual. They should have that somewhere in their archives.

Anybody working for SIEMENS or having a relative in good places ??

[pickinthebanjo]

http://www.hnsa.org/doc/attack/index.htm - American

http://hnsa.org/doc/torpedo-qual-mk37/index.htm More American

http://hnsa.org/doc/s-boat/index.htm - American S-Boat Training Manual

http://hnsa.org/doc/subphrase/index.htm - More American stuff

http://hnsa.org/doc/pdf/suborders.pdf - Some sort of Manual/Log, American

http://hnsa.org/doc/pdf/duff.pdf - American medical study of submariners during WWII

http://hnsa.org/doc/banjo/index.htm - More American Torpedo Guidance information

http://hnsa.org/doc/attackfinder/index.htm - American

http://hnsa.org/doc/destroyer/depthprojector/index.htm - K Gun Information

http://hnsa.org/doc/destroyer/depthprojector1/index.htm - Y Gun Information

http://home.cogeco.ca/~gchalcraft/sm/attack.html - British

http://hnsa.org/doc/depthcharge6/index.htm
- Us Depth Charges

http://hnsa.org/doc/ecat/index.htm - Catalouge of Us Electronic Equipment

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WTUS_WWII.htm - US Torpedoes of WWII

[pickinthebanjo]

Heres the spot they put the code books

[pickinthebanjo]

I appolagise for that big dial, I decided to let it stay as it adds character to the post

I set it as my wall paper

[Kafka BC]

Originally Posted by pickinthebanjo

I always find that the first few days aboard are the worst, after that it's not so bad (at least not on the fishing barge). What gets me is after returning to the pier and I still feel like I'm on the barge for the next couple hours.

Whats it like aboard a tanker? On the barge I worked on we got rocked around pretty good.

For the first few days the weather was good and I wasn't sick at all. But it was March and rough weather hit in the Gulf of St.Lawrence and didn't let up for two weeks.

I had been on the ocean before on smaller vessels like fishing boats, and had sailed on the Brad'Or Lakes of Cape Breton Island when I was a kid so I thought I could handle it...I couldn't. This was something different. Those big, long, slow rolls would cause the nausea to build up to almost unbearable points. I quickly learned, like many before me, that if you went outside into the fresh air and could see the horizon it would almost go away. But down inside the engine room, with no exterior points of reference, it was another matter.

I wished I had a hammock to sleep in, the bed in my cabin was useless. I ended up sleeping on the floor, braced between it and the wall. Later on, one of the crew told me the Imperial St. Clair was considered the worst seaboat in the fleet. I don't know if that was true, but it sure felt like it.

I did get over some of it by my final week, and I too needed to reacquaint myself with the land when it was over. I remember my friends thought I walked "funny".

[pickinthebanjo]

Just imagine what the crews aboard the U-boats had to endure, I can't see those fairing well on the surface in calm seas forget a storm.

[Kafka BC]

Originally Posted by pickinthebanjo

Just imagine what the crews aboard the U-boats had to endure, I can't see those fairing well on the surface in calm seas forget a storm.

I don't know what the seakeeping characteristics of the U-boats were, but from the collection of pictures that I have they seem to be alright in calm weather. As an educated guess it looks like that at a Sea State of 4 (waves and chop of 1.25 to 2.5 meters), Beaufort Wind Scale of 4 (wind of 5.5–7.9 meters/second), and moderate to short sea swells, that things start getting "lively". Its probably a bit better for the type IX and most certainly worse for the type II.

Silent Hunter III dosn't model any of this. It does, however, correctly limits the game to a Beaufort Scale of 7 (wind 13.9–17.1 m/s). Anything higher and the player would have to show true seamanship skills, usually by pointing the ship into the wind, waves, and swells and using your rudder and engines to maintain steerage or could happen. From what I've read, if you loose steerage under those conditions, its damn hard to get it back.

(Edit: I was tired when I wrote this, and strayed a bit. But yes, I can imagine what those U-Boat crews had to endure. As well, can you imagine the reek of vomit from the "unseasoned crewmen" in such an enclosed environment as a U-Boat.)

(I just noticed that I became a Swabbie with this post. Yesterday, I was a Bilge Rat. I'm normally not much for communicating, now I've become a wordy bugger.)

[JMV]

To Pickinthebanjo :

In your Post # 23, what kind of code is that in the last picture ?

Suberb and interesting pictures BTW
And a few documents I didn't have as well.

Thanks a bunch !

[pickinthebanjo]

Originally Posted by JMV

To Pickinthebanjo :

In your Post # 23, what kind of code is that in the last picture ?

Suberb and interesting pictures BTW
And a few documents I didn't have as well.

Thanks a bunch !

I honestly have no Idea