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Old 07-05-19, 07:19 AM   #1
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'There's An Incident Involving A Russian Submarine Every Five Or Six Years'

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RFE/RL's Russian Service spoke with Dmitry Gorenburg, an associate with the Davis Center for Russian and Eurasian Studies at Harvard University and a researcher with the U.S.-based Center for Naval Analyses, and asked him about the Losharik incident and the state of Russia's nuclear submarine fleet.

RFE/RL: What can you tell us about the Losharik submarine and its function?

Dmitry Gorenburg: This submarine has an unusual construction with a double hull. The exterior is made of titanium, while the internal hull comprises several isolated spheres. It is not, strictly speaking, a "real" submarine because it is transported using large atomic submarines, usually the Orenburg, although the Belgorod can also serve. Because of its internal nuclear reactor, it can remain submersed for extended periods and can operate almost noiselessly. According to some sources, it is the quietest submarine in the Russian arsenal.
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Old 07-05-19, 09:17 AM   #2
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That's no surprise taking into account 20+ years of disregard towards the Navy. With such luggage it's hard to say how much time would be needed to make our submariners's service more safe. Howerver "safe" and "submarine" are two words that don't come together. Nature of that vessels means that anything can happen anytime.
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Old 07-06-19, 03:17 AM   #3
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Oscar boat is Belgorod newly released, Spec Ops boat, supposedly equipped with Kanyon torpedoes. Losharik, however, is assigned to BS-136 Orenburg and BS-64 Podmovskoye. Reports claims that mothership involved was BS-136 Orenburg. The truth will never see the light of day.
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Old 07-06-19, 12:08 PM   #4
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Oscar boat is Belgorod newly released, Spec Ops boat, supposedly equipped with Kanyon torpedoes. Losharik, however, is assigned to BS-136 Orenburg and BS-64 Podmovskoye. Reports claims that mothership involved was BS-136 Orenburg. The truth will never see the light of day.
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The scheme of “Losharik” in the context. Displacement: 1,000 tons. Crew: 25 persons. Length: 75 meters
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Old 07-10-19, 07:21 AM   #5
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So a top Russian naval officer said that the dead sailors (fighting the fire or whatever) saved the submarine fire from being a 'planetary catastrophe' ?

https://www.businessinsider.de/dead-...19-7?r=US&IR=T

Makes one think.. what did or does it carry, is the reactor some new design that brings about something being even more harmful than what we already tinker with?
How to handle people and nations that bring the world to the brink of a catastrophe 'just so'?
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Old 07-10-19, 11:59 AM   #6
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Oscar boat is Belgorod newly released, Spec Ops... The truth will never see the light of day.
palito! AFTER A 6 YEAR SILENT RUN...THE LIGHT OF DAY!?? I'D IMAGINE THERE ARE A FEW 'TOP BRASS' JOB OPENINGS:
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The following seamen were killed in the 1 July 2019 incident:
Captain 1st Rank
  • Denis Dolonskiy, The commanding officer of the submarine, Hero of Russia, awarded two Orders of Courage (including one posthumously), Order of Naval Merit[33]
  • Konstantin Ivanov, awarded two Orders of Courage (one posthumously), Order of Military Merit
  • Andrey Voskresenskiy, Hero of Russia (posthumously), three Orders of Courage, Order of Military Merit. He was a son-in-law of the Chief of Sosnovy Bor Naval Training Centre for Nuclear Submarine Crews Counter admiralVladimir Bederdinov[34]
  • Konstantin Somov, Hero of Russia (posthumously), three Orders of Courage
  • Denis Oparin, Hero of Russia (posthumously), Order of Courage. He was a son of the chief of the submarine division that included Losharik, Alexander OparinVladimir Abankin, awarded two Orders of Courage (one posthumously)
  • Nikolay Filin, test pilot of military deep-diving manned submersibles, Hero of Russia (2018), awarded four Orders of Courage (including one posthumously), Order of Miltary Merit[33][34]
Captain 2nd Rank
  • Alexander Avdonin, awarded two Orders of Courage (one posthumously)
  • Dmitriy Solovyev, Hero of Russia (posthumously)
  • Sergey Danilchenko, awarded two Orders of Courage (one posthumously)
Captain 3rd Rank
  • Viktor Kuzmin, awarded Order of Courage (posthumously)
  • Vladimir Sukhinichev, awarded Order of Courage (posthumously)
Other Crew
  • Lieutenant Captain Mikhail Dubkov, awarded Order of Courage (posthumously)
Lieutenant Colonel of Medical Service Alexandr Vasilyev, awarded Order of Courage (posthumously)
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Old 07-11-19, 12:21 AM   #7
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The picture is getting clearer ... the mother submarine might not even have been involved due to the close proximity of the accident with the mini-sub operating on her own doing her thing in local waters with a civilian scientist on board the sub was still in it's shake down form.

A sub that small with it's own nuclear power plant? Wow!

I wonder if the USN even has anything like this one in mind?
Just to answer me Quattro yes there has been a submarine as small powered by a nuclear reactor the NR1
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