WHY God - is there no decent Sailing Ship war game?!?! - Page 19

speed150mph · 06-04-14, 06:25 PM

Well you know I always wanted to learn how to do 3d modelling on computer. I mean I love building stuff, I've been drawing stuff on paint since I was probably 6. I love building stuff in minecraft, and I have designed complicated things. Probably the thing I'd be most proud of is how I built a realisticly operating internal combustion engine on Lego digital designer. Im very meticulous and have an eye for detail for even the smallest things.

So if you'd be willing to teach me I'd love to help create some of your models, especially ones of those beautiful sailing vessels.

But if you wouldn't mind telling me, what software program do you use to build your models for cryengine. Just so I can play around with it myself first, and get a little more familiar with it.

Thanks

Thagarr · 06-05-14, 12:58 AM

We could certainly use more modellers speed150mph, I am afraid though that modelling is far beyond my capacity as well, at least making it resemble anything in the real world! Ships are a tough one to start on, they are very complicated, and with the CryEngine, they are much more detailed.

There are some good tutorials around for STORM engine modelling, which is similar, but more low res. STORM is the engine that the 2003 Pirates of the Caribbean PC game used and it is the engine that we are most familiar with. As far as I know though, the engine doesn't really matter as long as the models meet the basic requirements.

Mostly I believe our modellers work in Maya, but I think there are one or two others as well. You can have a look through THIS tutorial in our STORM Modelling section. I would also recommend looking through some of the threads in that section and take a look at the models others have done.

To keep this thread from getting off topic though, I would suggest that you ask any questions that you may have over on our forum to keep from cluttering up this one to much.

con20or · 06-20-14, 04:48 AM

HOOCOTS now has it's own website, easier to follow updates now.

http://www.heartsofoakgame.com/

Otto Fuhrmann · 07-30-14, 07:11 AM

That's the first I've heard of Hearts of Oak, but it looks fantastic so far.

con20or · 08-15-14, 03:09 PM

I have no doubt that HOOCOTS is going to be every naval gamers dream.

These guys are liaising with the AoS community but still doing everything for free! They recently hit a snag that tured out to be a springboard - a graphics engine they had been using was unsuitable, so they moved to another. They translated the whole thing in a fraction of the time i took them to do the original work!!!

Aktungbby · 08-15-14, 03:29 PM

thanks for posting that!

rdjulius · 09-04-14, 01:31 PM

This is all I can give you guys at the moment. Keep in mind this was game-play from over 2 years ago its progressed allot since then brace for more and give support for this project on the YouTube video Comment section.

P.S I am not the actual developer I am posting on his behalf.

09-04-14, 05:48 PM

I've always considered Pirates of the Caribbean to be the closet thing to a sailing sim that we where going to get.

There was talk of them making a new one, where you would be able to walk around the ship and give orders to crew. However, that particular project was canceled.

Sounded like it would have been fun though.

I still have the original game on Xbox. I play it every now and again, but I always get mad that it ends after the campaign. They should have let you continue and do anything you wanted like Sid Meyer's Pirates did.

Aktungbby · 09-04-14, 06:38 PM

rdjulius!

Jimbuna · 09-05-14, 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rdjulius

This is all I can give you guys at the moment. Keep in mind this was game-play from over 2 years ago its progressed allot since then brace for more and give support for this project on the YouTube video Comment section.

P.S I am not the actual developer I am posting on his behalf.

Looks promising...reminds me of the naval engagements in NTW.

Welcome to SubSim

rdjulius · 09-05-14, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Looks promising...reminds me of the naval engagements in NTW.

Welcome to SubSim

Yes I see some similarity, though this hopes to be an open World RPG. The game engine has been entirely built/programmed by the developer alone from scratch. It going to take time but then all good things do. And thank you!

Jimbuna · 09-05-14, 12:01 PM

Rgr that and your welcome

biosthetique · 09-09-14, 09:03 PM

In the Game "Empire Total War", there are plenty of naval battles with sails ships.
Take a look:

tater · 09-10-14, 08:31 AM

Except that it's not a "decent" sailing ship game, they are motorboats.

All sailing games get dumbed down, sadly. The sailing model is by far the most important factor.

bix · 09-11-14, 07:44 AM

Ahoy Mates,

Been lurking for a while on the thread (sadly I have not had the time to continue work on my "Signal, Close Action!" game, but I have not forgotten it).

Just wanted to pipe in to say indeed the sailing physics to me is the most important factor, but for it to feel real, the action must run really slowly. It is also the most difficult thing to achieve technically. And unfortunately, the reality only appeals to the connoisseur, thus the complete lack of it coming from the AAA game industry. Not enough market to warrant the expense. Which is why I am completely disgusted with the game industry.

Someday, I do hope to dust off my sailing code and complete the project, but alas, it does not look hopeful in the near future.

Best,
Bix

06-20-14, 04:48 AM	#273
con20or Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 269 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	HOOCOTS now has it's own website, easier to follow updates now. http://www.heartsofoakgame.com/ __________________ QA Lead on Scourge of War - http://www.scourgeofwar.com/index.shtml (98% rating on Armchair general) - http://www.armchairgeneral.com/scour...ame-review.htm SoW Waterloo Announced for 2015!!

08-15-14, 03:09 PM	#275
con20or Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 269 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	I have no doubt that HOOCOTS is going to be every naval gamers dream. These guys are liaising with the AoS community but still doing everything for free! They recently hit a snag that tured out to be a springboard - a graphics engine they had been using was unsuitable, so they moved to another. They translated the whole thing in a fraction of the time i took them to do the original work!!! __________________ QA Lead on Scourge of War - http://www.scourgeofwar.com/index.shtml (98% rating on Armchair general) - http://www.armchairgeneral.com/scour...ame-review.htm SoW Waterloo Announced for 2015!!

08-15-14, 03:29 PM	#276
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 28,046 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	thanks for posting that! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe"

09-04-14, 01:31 PM	#277
rdjulius Nub Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Britain Posts: 2 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	A sneak peak exclusive! This is all I can give you guys at the moment. Keep in mind this was game-play from over 2 years ago its progressed allot since then brace for more and give support for this project on the YouTube video Comment section. P.S I am not the actual developer I am posting on his behalf.

09-04-14, 06:38 PM	#279
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 28,046 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Welcome Aboard rdjulius! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe"

06-04-14, 06:25 PM	#271
speed150mph Electrician's Mate Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 132 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Well you know I always wanted to learn how to do 3d modelling on computer. I mean I love building stuff, I've been drawing stuff on paint since I was probably 6. I love building stuff in minecraft, and I have designed complicated things. Probably the thing I'd be most proud of is how I built a realisticly operating internal combustion engine on Lego digital designer. Im very meticulous and have an eye for detail for even the smallest things. So if you'd be willing to teach me I'd love to help create some of your models, especially ones of those beautiful sailing vessels. But if you wouldn't mind telling me, what software program do you use to build your models for cryengine. Just so I can play around with it myself first, and get a little more familiar with it. Thanks

06-05-14, 12:58 AM	#272
Thagarr Mate Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Steeler country Posts: 53 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	We could certainly use more modellers speed150mph, I am afraid though that modelling is far beyond my capacity as well, at least making it resemble anything in the real world! Ships are a tough one to start on, they are very complicated, and with the CryEngine, they are much more detailed. There are some good tutorials around for STORM engine modelling, which is similar, but more low res. STORM is the engine that the 2003 Pirates of the Caribbean PC game used and it is the engine that we are most familiar with. As far as I know though, the engine doesn't really matter as long as the models meet the basic requirements. Mostly I believe our modellers work in Maya, but I think there are one or two others as well. You can have a look through THIS tutorial in our STORM Modelling section. I would also recommend looking through some of the threads in that section and take a look at the models others have done. To keep this thread from getting off topic though, I would suggest that you ask any questions that you may have over on our forum to keep from cluttering up this one to much.

07-30-14, 07:11 AM	#274
Otto Fuhrmann Helmsman Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Ireland Posts: 109 Downloads: 57 Uploads: 0	That's the first I've heard of Hearts of Oak, but it looks fantastic so far.

09-04-14, 05:48 PM	#278
DJ Kelley Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I've always considered Pirates of the Caribbean to be the closet thing to a sailing sim that we where going to get. There was talk of them making a new one, where you would be able to walk around the ship and give orders to crew. However, that particular project was canceled. Sounded like it would have been fun though. I still have the original game on Xbox. I play it every now and again, but I always get mad that it ends after the campaign. They should have let you continue and do anything you wanted like Sid Meyer's Pirates did.

09-05-14, 12:01 PM	#282
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,962 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Rgr that and your welcome __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

09-09-14, 09:03 PM	#283
biosthetique Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: SD Posts: 266 Downloads: 652 Uploads: 0	In the Game "Empire Total War", there are plenty of naval battles with sails ships. Take a look: Last edited by biosthetique; 09-10-14 at 04:52 AM.

09-10-14, 08:31 AM	#284
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Except that it's not a "decent" sailing ship game, they are motorboats. All sailing games get dumbed down, sadly. The sailing model is by far the most important factor. __________________ "Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one." — Thomas Paine

09-11-14, 07:44 AM	#285
bix A-ganger Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Lisbon, Portugal Posts: 76 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	motor boats Ahoy Mates, Been lurking for a while on the thread (sadly I have not had the time to continue work on my "Signal, Close Action!" game, but I have not forgotten it). Just wanted to pipe in to say indeed the sailing physics to me is the most important factor, but for it to feel real, the action must run really slowly. It is also the most difficult thing to achieve technically. And unfortunately, the reality only appeals to the connoisseur, thus the complete lack of it coming from the AAA game industry. Not enough market to warrant the expense. Which is why I am completely disgusted with the game industry. Someday, I do hope to dust off my sailing code and complete the project, but alas, it does not look hopeful in the near future. Best, Bix