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He hoped the network would balance negative portrayals of Muslims
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Well. This doesn't help at all. What the bugger was he thinking? And beheading her?
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Jeez. She looked like a man. No wonder he did it.
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...many would have considered this guy a "Mainstream Muslim"...
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Its usually the so called moderate muslims that get in these news for "honor" killings.
Wifes or daughters divorcing, resisting forced marriages etc, there are disproportionate number of muslim women in battered womens shelters. |
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Any bets he is aquitted or given atleast a very lean sentence because it is permissable under shri'a law?
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I guess the above story could be classified as "ePiC fAiL", huh? "Yeah, keep up that great PR for us....thanks a bunch." |
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Another interpretation on whether Honour Killings are a part of Islam. These two sources say no.
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/S...=1119503543392 In response to the question: Quote:
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http://www.worldandi.com/newhome/pub.../may/clpub.asp The article is too long to quote here but it is written by James Emery who is an anthropologist and journalist. Information for his article was obtained through interviews and research conducted in North America, West Asia, and the Middle East. In the article he also emphasis that Honour Killings are not "authorized" in the Qura'n nor in Islam
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Looking through all that, I'm even going to take a page out of Frederick Forsyth's book and assert that the ultraconservative Muslims who do things like this aren't "fundamentalists" at all by its strict definition. Fundamentalist implies going back to its roots, and at its roots Islam is fundamentally not that different from the rest of the great religions of the world: thou shalt not sin, thou shalt honor Allah, etc. Put it this way: could the Christian crazies who bomb and kill in the name of Christ really be considered true to the core beliefs of Christianity?
Instead, crazy "Islamics" like that are comparable to the fanatics of any religion who take one point from it out of context, pervert it to their own meaning, and then parade it as the will of their God(s). What happened, I think, was that the religion sprung up in what was (and still is) one of the most conflicted regions in the world, and spread with such rapidity--as did Christianity--so that it wasn't long before it was being perverted left and right to the advantage of the various belligerents. Once that happened, religious fervor and manipulators did the rest. You can't really say that "honor killing"--which I believe was established as a tribal custom long before Islam existed--is really condoned by the same man who preached what is essentially the same set of core values as Moses and Jesus did before him. True, there are many, many differences, but "Thou shalt not murder" is central to all three religions.
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See, this is something that frustrates the daylights out of me ... why do people simply refuse to call a "Duck" a "Duck" when it comes to religion (especially Islam)? The Koran explicitly allows for Jihad and the killing of so-called unbelievers and yet, whenever that fact is brought to light, Islamic-apologists (more accurately, anti-Christians who look for any reason to disparage Christianity) come out of the wood work. Seriously, it must be okay to encourage suicide bombings because, a few hundred years ago, the Crusades occurred, right? I am not a member of any religion or religious belief system. However, having studied the tenets of Christianity and Islam, it is quite clear that Islam is the more modernly-violent religion. Unlike Christianity, so-called "extremist" Islamic views are supported by the inferred Islamic "mainstream". Like it or not, this is the truth,. Just because it doesn't fit in your little box of "all religions are equally horrible", doesn't change the facts. Maybe, just maybe, when people stop "spinning" reality and simply accept things for what they are we will be able to have an honest and open dialogue about the world's problems... |
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