U.S. Presidential Debates & Election - Page 17

AVGWarhawk · 10-23-12, 12:31 PM

Still begs the question. Why hollow points if these are "practice" rounds? The purchaser is not being a good Stewart of the tax payers money if these are for practice and a less expensive round could be used.

Sailor Steve · 10-23-12, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

a good Stewart

Jimmy? Jackie?

AVGWarhawk · 10-23-12, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Jimmy? Jackie?

Just for you Steve. steward.

mookiemookie · 10-23-12, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Jimmy? Jackie?

I'm surprised you picked that and not the "begs the question" misuse to pick on.

AVGWarhawk · 10-23-12, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

I'm surprised you picked that and not the "begs the question" misuse to pick on.

We are now subject to idiom scrutiny as well?

Sailor Steve · 10-23-12, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Just for you Steve. steward.

I would have just ignored it as a typo if you hadn't capitalized it as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

I'm surprised you picked that and not the "begs the question" misuse to pick on.

I've never claimed to know everything. Or anything. I just thought it was funny.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

We are now subject to idiom scrutiny as well?

I'm not an idiom! You're an idiom!

mapuc · 10-23-12, 01:49 PM

I saw about 2/3 of the debate, I noticed that Mitt in several cases, Obama is right in several of his opinion.

The following comment from the debate, is from Bo Inge Andersson, the Swedish News' foreign commentator. I've used Google translate and only corrected the places where the translation is not quite correct. I think his comment is right on

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo Inge Andersson

Did both win the debate?

It was Mitt Romney that surprised.
Many had expected that he would
be aggressive and require tougher
for example against Syria and Iran and criticized
our president weakness.

But the interesting thing was how often he
nodded assent or concurred in words
When the president spoke.

Romney was profiled recently as
a "peace candidate" who admitted that
violence was the last resort in the case of
Syria and Iraq.

Fair debate technically you could say that
it was Obama who won the debate

Obama was more active while Romney sometimes
seemed almost resigned. It was noticeable
Obama had four years of experience
as president and commander in chief.

But Romney showed up well prepared and
by taking a moderate stance
He also passed the test: Can it
man to be commander in chief (and all-
as president)? For a war-weary U.S.
He would probably be accepted.

Romney thus continued its remarkable
Development having
varitvad he calls a "strictly
conservative "to a more pronounced
my politicians, even if the opponents
mean that it is just tactics.

Americans are tired of party squabbles
and it is possible to Romney won
voters to show agreement with
president and not appear as a
hawkish warmongers.

Meanwhile thus superior Obama
in the debate, but the question is whether
his active - or aggressive - image
in fact, could operate
repulsive on some undecided voters.

So the result might samfattas
that both made gains in this
final debate before the election on
November 6.

Markus

MH · 10-23-12, 01:59 PM

This debate is like oprah show.
How the hell people take it seriously.
It sort of looks like it is a thingy for all those in-between guys who also like to vote/bet on winning horse.

mapuc · 10-23-12, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MH

This debate is like oprah show.
How the hell people take it seriously.
It sort of looks like it is a thingy for all those in-between guys who also like to vote/bet on winning horse.

Is that you own thoughts about those debates or is it a common thing? Just like Wrestling- almost everyone knows it's not for real it's just a show

If it's only a show-then it's new to me.

Ups I missed the word "this"

Markus

AVGWarhawk · 10-23-12, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I would have just ignored it as a typo if you hadn't capitalized it as well.

I've never claimed to know everything. Or anything. I just thought it was funny.

I'm not an idiom! You're an idiom!

Dam gramer poleice.

CaptainHaplo · 10-23-12, 06:12 PM

These three debates were an object lesson in strategy.

If Romney wins the election - and I suspect he will by a suprising margin, this will be an example of how one resounding victory followed by what is technically 2 draw's - can still end up as lasting win.

No question that Romney cleaned Obama's clock the first go round.

While many on the right wanted to see him do it again in the second debate, both men looked more like kids on a playground trying to one-up the other. 1/3 saw it as a Romney win, 1/3 saw it as a Obama win, and 1/3 saw it as a tie. That makes it a wash. Neither side really did much to the other in the larger scheme of things.

The third round was probably the most dangerous for both candidates. Obama needed to halt the momentum Romney has had, and Romney had to tie foreign policy into his "strength" - which is primarily economic. The problem is that while Obama looked a little more "in the know" on some foreign policy issues, Romney was close enough to him to be seen as a serious contender for Commander in Chief without seeming hawkish.

Ultimately - the economy still figured largely, so while Obama took swipes at Romney, the line "Attacking me isn't a foreign policy for the future" kept Obama from making many inroads. Given that foreign policy is truly a secondary issue this election, on balance the third debate was pretty much an even outcome.

So - in just a little less than 2 weeks - we will find out if sometimes simply "not losing" is a victory.

CaptainHaplo · 10-23-12, 06:21 PM

These three debates were an object lesson in strategy.

If Romney wins the election - and I suspect he will by a suprising margin, this will be an example of how one resounding victory followed by what is technically 2 draw's - can still end up as lasting win.

No question that Romney cleaned Obama's clock the first go round. In addition, Romney defined himself - letting the voters see someone different than the image that the Obama camp had portrayed. Between that and Obama looking like someone had told him that his teleprompter had just died and couldn't be resuctated - it simply was a rout.

While many on the right wanted to see Romney do it again in the second debate, both men looked more like kids on a playground trying to one-up the other. Both interrupted and talked over each other to the rejection of most watchers. 1/3 saw it as a Romney win, 1/3 saw it as a Obama win, and 1/3 saw it as a tie. That makes it a wash. Neither side really did much to the other in the larger scheme of things.

The third round was probably the most dangerous for both candidates. Obama needed to halt the momentum Romney has had, and Romney had to tie foreign policy into his "strength" - which is primarily economic. The problem is that while Obama looked a little more "in the know" on some foreign policy issues, Romney was close enough to him to be seen as a serious contender for Commander in Chief without seeming hawkish.

Ultimately - the economy still figured largely, so while Obama took swipes at Romney, the line "Attacking me isn't a foreign policy for the future" kept Obama from making many inroads. Given that foreign policy is truly a secondary issue this election, on balance the third debate was pretty much an even outcome.

So - in just a little less than 2 weeks - we will find out if sometimes simply "not losing" is a victory.

Onkel Neal · 10-23-12, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I would have just ignored it as a typo if you hadn't capitalized it as well.

I've never claimed to know everything. Or anything. I just thought it was funny.

I'm not an idiom! You're an idiom!

This is great, I live for these type of highjacks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

These three debates were an object lesson in strategy.

If Romney wins the election - and I suspect he will by a suprising margin, this will be an example of how one resounding victory followed by what is technically 2 draw's - can still end up as lasting win.

Don't overlook, many people probably have not been paying any attention to the GOP primary race, and these three debates are the first impression they've had of Romney.

Tagg Romney, Mitt Romney's oldest son, apologized to President Barack Obama Monday for saying he wanted to "take a swing" at him during contentious presidential debates.

Man, what an embarrassing thing to say about the President, then have to go on stage with him. He's lucky he's not in Gitmo...oh wait, Obama shut that down...

-----------------

Of Bayonets and Submarines

Partisan blinders if ever I saw them.

.

vienna · 10-24-12, 12:25 PM

<o>

Oberon · 10-24-12, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vienna

pic

<o>

10-23-12, 06:12 PM	#251
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,405 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	These three debates were an object lesson in strategy. If Romney wins the election - and I suspect he will by a suprising margin, this will be an example of how one resounding victory followed by what is technically 2 draw's - can still end up as lasting win. No question that Romney cleaned Obama's clock the first go round. While many on the right wanted to see him do it again in the second debate, both men looked more like kids on a playground trying to one-up the other. 1/3 saw it as a Romney win, 1/3 saw it as a Obama win, and 1/3 saw it as a tie. That makes it a wash. Neither side really did much to the other in the larger scheme of things. The third round was probably the most dangerous for both candidates. Obama needed to halt the momentum Romney has had, and Romney had to tie foreign policy into his "strength" - which is primarily economic. The problem is that while Obama looked a little more "in the know" on some foreign policy issues, Romney was close enough to him to be seen as a serious contender for Commander in Chief without seeming hawkish. Ultimately - the economy still figured largely, so while Obama took swipes at Romney, the line "Attacking me isn't a foreign policy for the future" kept Obama from making many inroads. Given that foreign policy is truly a secondary issue this election, on balance the third debate was pretty much an even outcome. So - in just a little less than 2 weeks - we will find out if sometimes simply "not losing" is a victory. __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

10-23-12, 06:21 PM	#252
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,405 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	These three debates were an object lesson in strategy. If Romney wins the election - and I suspect he will by a suprising margin, this will be an example of how one resounding victory followed by what is technically 2 draw's - can still end up as lasting win. No question that Romney cleaned Obama's clock the first go round. In addition, Romney defined himself - letting the voters see someone different than the image that the Obama camp had portrayed. Between that and Obama looking like someone had told him that his teleprompter had just died and couldn't be resuctated - it simply was a rout. While many on the right wanted to see Romney do it again in the second debate, both men looked more like kids on a playground trying to one-up the other. Both interrupted and talked over each other to the rejection of most watchers. 1/3 saw it as a Romney win, 1/3 saw it as a Obama win, and 1/3 saw it as a tie. That makes it a wash. Neither side really did much to the other in the larger scheme of things. The third round was probably the most dangerous for both candidates. Obama needed to halt the momentum Romney has had, and Romney had to tie foreign policy into his "strength" - which is primarily economic. The problem is that while Obama looked a little more "in the know" on some foreign policy issues, Romney was close enough to him to be seen as a serious contender for Commander in Chief without seeming hawkish. Ultimately - the economy still figured largely, so while Obama took swipes at Romney, the line "Attacking me isn't a foreign policy for the future" kept Obama from making many inroads. Given that foreign policy is truly a secondary issue this election, on balance the third debate was pretty much an even outcome. So - in just a little less than 2 weeks - we will find out if sometimes simply "not losing" is a victory. __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

10-24-12, 12:25 PM	#254
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,731 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	<o> __________________ __________________________________________________ __

10-23-12, 12:31 PM	#241
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,303 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Still begs the question. Why hollow points if these are "practice" rounds? The purchaser is not being a good Stewart of the tax payers money if these are for practice and a less expensive round could be used.

10-23-12, 01:59 PM	#248
MH Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3,184 Downloads: 248 Uploads: 0	This debate is like oprah show. How the hell people take it seriously. It sort of looks like it is a thingy for all those in-between guys who also like to vote/bet on winning horse.