Forget the zombie apocalypse, here's the real danger coming: DRONES! - Page 17

Onkel Neal · 08-03-21, 10:52 PM

I sure don't want to be a tank commander

Aktungbby · 08-03-21, 11:46 PM

nuthin really goes outta style: starting with the Soviet Russian concept: "numbers have a cachet of their own...

August · 08-04-21, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

I sure don't want to be a tank commander

You'd think that one of those tank commanders would have looked up and noticed that something amiss with that huge grid of missile carrying drones floating just overhead.

Onkel Neal · 08-05-21, 09:35 AM

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You'd think that one of those tank commanders would have looked up and noticed that something amiss with that huge grid of missile carrying drones floating just overhead.

Yeah, but what's he going to do about it?

Drone Striking World Trade Center Is A Wake-Up Call

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidha...e-up-call/amp/

Skybird · 08-05-21, 09:51 AM

It gets even better. Technology for drones. Becomes modular more and more. Anybody, any state or organisaiton, can assemble them. The construction does not allow to identify the "sender". Such drones cna be used by EVERYBODY. EVERYWHERE. Against EVERYBODY. AT ANY TIME. And nobody will and cna be hekd acocutbale for any such attack.

The whole concept of "war" is in a revolutionary revision currently.

And then the next thing. Autonomous swarm drones. AI.

Interested customers? States. Criminal organisations. Organised crime. Terrorists. Religious nutheads. Professional assassins. Angry citizens. Ordinary people wanting to try something a lil' different for a change.

It becomes modular, and by that: anonymous. Mass-produced. Cheap. Small. Affordable. Easy to operate. Self-explanatory, almost.

Wars do not become less but more likely. Because the starters of wars will not be caught.

Legal rules and treaties and international conventions do nothign to prevent this. Its like the hope to prevent crime by declaring crime illegal. Absurd.

The biggest issue nin all this is that the modular natur eof near-future systems will allow total anonymity. That reduces the inhibition to use such weapons by absolutely frightening degrees.

August · 08-05-21, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Yeah, but what's he going to do about it?

One would imagine that they could launch their own counterstrike drones, but I'd bet that array would be very susceptible to good old fashioned air-bursting anti-aircraft fire.

Heck a stiff breeze might work too!

Skybird · 08-05-21, 01:21 PM

The day you jump forward for two seconds to pick a parking lot before another car gets it and you then see the other driver grinning while his car's trunk opens up, you know you're in trouble.

August · 08-05-21, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

Everyone looks up for drones.
You do know there are land drones that can mass and only use 1 overhead drone as 'Eye in the sky'.

Right. Lots less energy to keep one light scout drone flying and keep the heavy ordinance on the ground not expending fuel as long as possible.

But I figure that by the time such an array is ever deployed that armored column would have its own armada of combat and scouting drones flying out ahead and protecting their flanks.

That array would work well against rebels and civilians as an area denial system though.

Onkel Neal · 08-05-21, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by August

One would imagine that they could launch their own counterstrike drones, but I'd bet that array would be very susceptible to good old fashioned air-bursting anti-aircraft fire.

Heck a stiff breeze might work too!

Yeah, tanks probably would have to call in anti-drone drones... messy!

vienna · 08-06-21, 05:33 AM

What would really be "salt in the wound" would be if, as the tank commander looked skyward, and just before the drones attacked, they flew into a formation spelling out:

"YOU ARE SO SCREWED"...

<O>

Onkel Neal · 11-07-21, 10:15 AM

Iraqi prime minister survives drone attack
https://thehill.com/policy/internati...-officials-say

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In a statement issued through state-run media, the government said that an “explosives-laden” drone had tried to target al-Kadhimi, the AP noted.

The attack, which included three drones, was aimed at his residence and occurred in the Green Zone — a heavily secured area where government offices and embassies are situated.

The new suicide bomber is a drone.

Onkel Neal · 11-15-23, 07:16 AM

Going to be tough to defend against these; all I wanna know, will it have a tiny drone periscope??

The Stealthy Sailboat-Submarine Drone the U.S. Navy Is Using Near Iran

Platapus · 11-15-23, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

The new suicide bomber is a drone.

That is the future.

Jimbuna · 11-15-23, 07:56 AM

With a top speed of just 5 knots it's going to have to be super stealthy.

Skybird · 11-15-23, 08:12 AM

Isn't that solar "sail" mast, when being erected, much bigger than a periscope and so wouldn't it be prone to being detected by radar?

08-03-21, 11:46 PM	#242
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 30,058 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	nuthin really goes outta style: starting with the Soviet Russian concept: "numbers have a cachet of their own... __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

08-05-21, 09:51 AM	#245
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,707 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	It gets even better. Technology for drones. Becomes modular more and more. Anybody, any state or organisaiton, can assemble them. The construction does not allow to identify the "sender". Such drones cna be used by EVERYBODY. EVERYWHERE. Against EVERYBODY. AT ANY TIME. And nobody will and cna be hekd acocutbale for any such attack. The whole concept of "war" is in a revolutionary revision currently. And then the next thing. Autonomous *swarm drones. AI. Interested customers? States. Criminal organisations. Organised crime. Terrorists. Religious nutheads. Professional assassins. Angry citizens. Ordinary people wanting to try something a lil' different for a change. It becomes modular, and by that: anonymous. Mass-produced. Cheap. Small. Affordable. Easy to operate. Self-explanatory, almost. Wars do not become less but more likely. Because the starters of wars will not be caught. Legal rules and treaties and international conventions do nothign to prevent this. Its like the hope to prevent crime by declaring crime illegal. Absurd. The biggest issue nin all this is that the modular natur eof near-future systems will allow total anonymity. That reduces the inhibition to use such weapons by absolutely frightening degrees. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.*

08-05-21, 01:21 PM	#247
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,707 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	The day you jump forward for two seconds to pick a parking lot before another car gets it and you then see the other driver grinning while his car's trunk opens up, you know you're in trouble. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

08-06-21, 05:33 AM	#250
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,720 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	What would really be "salt in the wound" would be if, as the tank commander looked skyward, and just before the drones attacked, they flew into a formation spelling out: "YOU ARE SO SCREWED"... <O> __________________ __________________________________________________ __

11-15-23, 07:16 AM	#252
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Going to be tough to defend against these; all I wanna know, will it have a tiny drone periscope?? The Stealthy Sailboat-Submarine Drone the U.S. Navy Is Using Near Iran __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

08-03-21, 10:52 PM	#241
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	I sure don't want to be a tank commander

11-15-23, 07:56 AM	#254
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,844 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	With a top speed of just 5 knots it's going to have to be super stealthy. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

11-15-23, 08:12 AM	#255
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,707 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Isn't that solar "sail" mast, when being erected, much bigger than a periscope and so wouldn't it be prone to being detected by radar? __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.