What do you feel about SH5 now? - Page 17

Sailor Steve · 05-19-10, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainPanAm

No one cares about your psuedo-intellectual nonsense ... creep!

Good one! You might have posted a smilie

just to be on the safe side, but I'm sure everyone got the joke.

WELCOME ABOARD!

05-19-10, 08:17 PM

Of course it was a joke, but putting a smile after my own words would be like laughing by myself at my jokes, I'd rather let anybody else to do that.

Sailor Steve · 05-20-10, 12:40 AM

I know. I just worry about people getting the wrong impression. I was thinking less a laugh than a grin.

But you don't need me telling you what to do. Sorry about that.

danizzz · 05-20-10, 06:00 AM

I hope the result of this poll will close the "sh3 was a bad game either and became a great game with mods just like SH5"....SH3 was a great game even whithout mods ....if you look the review of that period you can see an average of 5 stars out of 5....Sh5 has an average of 2 out of 5.

I know there are great modders out there that can do miracles, but in my opinion SH5 is hopeless!

Zedi · 05-20-10, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by danizzz

...but in my opinion SH5 is hopeless!

Then will you plzzzzzz get back at that ancient SH3 and leave us alone? Plzzzz.... plzzzzzzzzz! Btw, SH3 door it that way -->

Nordmann · 05-21-10, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by danizzz

I hope the result of this poll will close the "sh3 was a bad game either and became a great game with mods just like SH5"....SH3 was a great game even whithout mods ....if you look the review of that period you can see an average of 5 stars out of 5....Sh5 has an average of 2 out of 5.

I know there are great modders out there that can do miracles, but in my opinion SH5 is hopeless!

I would take any poll result with a pinch of salt. As anyone and everyone can vote, regardless as to whether or not they own and have played the game. Not exactly a fair poll, when you take this into account.

As for SH3 being great out of the box, I think you need to back up such a statement with some cold, hard facts. What made it great? Were there bugs, and if not, how can you explain the patches? Why did such a 'great' game need modding in the first place, surely it was so great that mods were unnecessary?

As for the 5/5 reviews, which reviews were these and how biased were they in their appraisal? I have seen 5/5 SH5 reviews, do I believe them? No. Do I believe most reviews? Hell no. Do reviews tell the whole story? No, only a snapshot at the time it was reviewed (pre-release most of the time).

To conclude, if it really is 'hopeless', why do you keep coming back to the SH5 forum?

JScones · 05-21-10, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Nordmann

As for the 5/5 reviews, which reviews were these and how biased were they in their appraisal?

One that immediately comes to mind... http://www.subsim.com/ssr/sh3_rc1/sh3_review1.htm

You may recognise the name of the reviewer.

Nordmann · 05-21-10, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JScones

One that immediately comes to mind... http://www.subsim.com/ssr/sh3_rc1/sh3_review1.htm

You may know the reviewer.

I am already aware of that particular review, but if the poster I quoted is going to make claims such as he did, he needs to include more than one source. As it is, he didn't reference any!

jwilliams · 05-21-10, 06:41 AM

IMO... SH5 patched to 1.2 and with TheDarkWraths UI is to the same playability as SH3 was at release.

I personaly wouldn't have given SH3 a score of 100% (100% is in my book, perfect. And it was not). But it would have been near.. 90%. Then add patches (1.4b) and the Supermods and SH3 gets 99%

SH5, I would have given a score of 65%, due to the game breaking bugs (e.g. Moral & stadimeter) But after patch 1.2 and with TDW UI. I'd score it 85%

So hopefully we get a few more patches and then the SUPERMODS

Then maybe SH5 score will be near 100% too

609_Avatar · 05-21-10, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Nordmann

I would take any poll result with a pinch of salt. As anyone and everyone can vote, regardless as to whether or not they own and have played the game. Not exactly a fair poll, when you take this into account.

???

How is a poll that asks those that if you don't have it why and what is your intention not "fair"? Granted, you can vote more than once but you are able to see who voted for what and then subtract numbers if you feel that's an issue. The whole idea is to have everyone and anyone vote to get opinions and reasons for choices... So please explain why you feel it isn't fair doing this kind of poll? Personally, I think it does a pretty good job, with the above caveat, at doing what it's trying to do. Of course all IMHO.

wingtip · 05-21-10, 11:55 AM

you need another option
"i havent bought the game and still undecided if i may or may not purchase"

that would be my choice, but since thats not on your list i'd have to go with havent bought it yet and dont plan to....

Flopper · 05-21-10, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by wingtip

you need another option
"i havent bought the game and still undecided if i may or may not purchase"

that would be my choice, but since thats not on your list i'd have to go with havent bought it yet and dont plan to....

I feel the same way, but went ahead with "haven't but probably will." I assume there'll be an eventual price I can't pass up, no matter what.

IanC · 05-21-10, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by danizzz

I hope the result of this poll will close the "sh3 was a bad game either and became a great game with mods just like SH5"....SH3 was a great game even whithout mods ....if you look the review of that period you can see an average of 5 stars out of 5....Sh5 has an average of 2 out of 5.

I know there are great modders out there that can do miracles, but in my opinion SH5 is hopeless!

danizzz don't get intimidated by a couple of members who tell you to leave the forum. You're entitled to your opinion, especially when that's what the thread is about!
Also from what I'm seeing you haven't said anything that wasn't true. SH3 got great reviews when released, SH5 got horrible reviews. Period.
Now... is SH5 hopeless? I guess only time will tell. If the game doesn't get patched properly by Ubi, then it doesn't look too good. Only they can fix the hardcoded bugs. Let's hope for at least two more patches.

Mad_Mark · 05-21-10, 03:58 PM

With mods this game has been become so much more enjoyable but without those mods this game would suck.
But tonight I am so angry as I cannot join Ubisoft ,their servers down preventing me from playing my game !
That is so wrong for a singleplaying session.
I hope someone at Ubisoft is being electricuted right know causing this disruption, that is the only excuss I will except.

Flopper · 05-21-10, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad_Mark

With mods this game has been become so much more enjoyable but without those mods this game would suck.
But tonight I am so angry as I cannot join Ubisoft ,their servers down preventing me from playing my game !
That is so wrong for a singleplaying session.
I hope someone at Ubisoft is being electricuted right know causing this disruption, that is the only excuss I will except.

I have to admit I'm seriously worried about what kind of tantrum I'd throw if that happened to me after paying full price. My fuse is measured in microns.

View Poll Results: What do you feel about SH5 now?
I love this game, it's my dream come true!	17	4.28%
It's not bad, it can be improved by UBI	59	14.86%
It's not bad, it can be improved by modders	86	21.66%
It's not bad, but it's not good either	39	9.82%
It's a total fiasco	132	33.25%
I haven't bought this game, but I probably will buy it	21	5.29%
I haven't bought this game and I will probably not buy it	110	27.71%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 397. You may not vote on this poll

05-20-10, 12:40 AM	#243
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I know. I just worry about people getting the wrong impression. I was thinking less a laugh than a grin. But you don't need me telling you what to do. Sorry about that. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

05-21-10, 06:41 AM	#249
jwilliams Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,013 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	IMO... SH5 patched to 1.2 and with TheDarkWraths UI is to the same playability as SH3 was at release. I personaly wouldn't have given SH3 a score of 100% (100% is in my book, perfect. And it was not). But it would have been near.. 90%. Then add patches (1.4b) and the Supermods and SH3 gets 99% SH5, I would have given a score of 65%, due to the game breaking bugs (e.g. Moral & stadimeter) But after patch 1.2 and with TDW UI. I'd score it 85% So hopefully we get a few more patches and then the SUPERMODS Then maybe SH5 score will be near 100% too __________________ Windows 7, 64bit. Phenom II 965BE (OC 4cores @ 3.8 Ghz). Radeon HD4870 (1gb gddr5). 6gb Ram.

05-19-10, 08:17 PM	#242
CaptainPanAm Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Of course it was a joke, but putting a smile after my own words would be like laughing by myself at my jokes, I'd rather let anybody else to do that.

05-20-10, 06:00 AM	#244
danizzz Seaman Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 39 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	I hope the result of this poll will close the "sh3 was a bad game either and became a great game with mods just like SH5"....SH3 was a great game even whithout mods ....if you look the review of that period you can see an average of 5 stars out of 5....Sh5 has an average of 2 out of 5. I know there are great modders out there that can do miracles, but in my opinion SH5 is hopeless!

05-21-10, 11:55 AM	#251
wingtip A-ganger Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 71 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	you need another option "i havent bought the game and still undecided if i may or may not purchase" that would be my choice, but since thats not on your list i'd have to go with havent bought it yet and dont plan to....

05-21-10, 03:58 PM	#254
Mad_Mark Sailor man Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 44 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	With mods this game has been become so much more enjoyable but without those mods this game would suck. But tonight I am so angry as I cannot join Ubisoft ,their servers down preventing me from playing my game ! That is so wrong for a singleplaying session. I hope someone at Ubisoft is being electricuted right know causing this disruption, that is the only excuss I will except.