FSAA/Anti-aliasing/Major resolution problem (merged) - Page 16

tommyk · 03-19-07, 06:02 PM

I dont mind a few minor bugs but I am getting more and more disappointed about SH4. Are these the glorious hollywood effects (all fake)? Its no wonder it runs fast on medium rigs if its still 1024x768...

I will stay with my PreOrder, try it myself but give it some shelf time. I hate low-res jaggies!

stabiz · 03-19-07, 06:04 PM

Well, this is no-go for me. Have seen screenshots here and elsewhere, and SH4 looks awful. Its washed out and strange looking, bland colours and terrible jaggies. (Kinda like GRAW (another UBI no AA-debacle) The mad part is that SH3 with GWX looks MUCH better, and they did that for free on their free time. Sure, nice with transparant water and all, but it still looks wierd. Oh, and the pre-release screenshots are a hoax.

I have also read about mad stuttering with high end systems, even with high fps.

Preorder cancelled by stabiz.

Arrowhead2k1 · 03-19-07, 06:05 PM

I'm speechless...

AVGWarhawk · 03-19-07, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by stabiz

Well, this is no-go for me. Have seen screenshots here and elsewhere, and SH4 looks awful. Its washed out and strange looking, bland colours and terrible jaggies. (Kinda like GRAW (another UBI no AA-debacle)

I have also read about mad stuttering with high end systems, even with high fps.

Preorder cancelled by stabiz.

I agree Stabiz. It looks gloomy. I posted that about a week ago. All the screehshots looked dark and foreboding to me. Others said no, this was a hollywood effect type deal. I guess it is not.

Charlie901 · 03-19-07, 06:07 PM

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I can confirm this also.
The 3d game is fixed at max 1024X768.
Buying SH4 must be my worst gaming experience ever. Bye bye SH4

If that's true, about the 1024x768 I mean, I honestly can't say that I blame you.

The only people this wouldn't concern, are those that still run at 1024x768 resolutions. That said, I simply can't believe this to be true. There must be something else going on here, it's unbelievable otherwise.

OH THANK GOD!

I can only run at max 1024x 768 due to my aged system and only a 7600 series vid card.

1024x768 HERE I COME!!!

cherbert · 03-19-07, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

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Originally Posted by stabiz

Well, this is no-go for me. Have seen screenshots here and elsewhere, and SH4 looks awful. Its washed out and strange looking, bland colours and terrible jaggies. (Kinda like GRAW (another UBI no AA-debacle)

I have also read about mad stuttering with high end systems, even with high fps.

Preorder cancelled by stabiz.

I agree Stabiz. It looks gloomy. I posted that about a week ago. All the screehshots looked dark and foreboding to me. Others said no, this was a hollywood effect type deal. I guess it is not.

That is the hollywood effect!! And it CAN be switched off. The graphics/colors look fine - don't worry!

What you do need to worry about is that its all presented in 1024 x 768. If you have a large widescreen LCD be prepared to think you are back playing Aces of the Deep.

ReallyDedPoet · 03-19-07, 06:10 PM

The Silent Hunter Series meets Dracula, that last screen was just plain scary

Capt.LoneRanger · 03-19-07, 06:11 PM

I am still amazed that people think the missing ability of pre 8xxx-nvidias is a Ubi-Bug

It is a purely nVidia-bug, because the video-cards cannot render Post-Processing and FSAA in the same time. Honestly, even 8xxx use a work-around. That is not limited to Ubi or something. It's the same with HL2, BF2142 and any other game, that uses HDR-Effects and runs with pre 8xxx nVidias. If you want to get rid of it, stop complaining about a software-bug in the game and get a next generation nVidia. Or even better: If you pay attention to texture and screen quality, drop your fanboyism and get an ATi-card.

cherbert · 03-19-07, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt.LoneRanger

I am still amazed that people think the missing ability of pre 8xxx-nvidias is a Ubi-Bug

It is a purely nVidia-bug, because the video-cards cannot render Post-Processing and FSAA in the same time. Honestly, even 8xxx use a work-around. That is not limited to Ubi or something. It's the same with HL2, BF2142 and any other game, that uses HDR-Effects and runs with pre 8xxx nVidias. If you want to get rid of it, stop complaining about a software-bug in the game and get a next generation nVidia. Or even better: If you pay attention to texture and screen quality, drop your fanboyism and get an ATi-card.

Erm, we aren't talking about AA. This thread is about the resolution.

oiler · 03-19-07, 06:13 PM

another thing is (at least for me) postproces underwater effects has very low color quality. It seems like 16bit maybe worse. (x1900xtx)

AVGWarhawk · 03-19-07, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

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Originally Posted by stabiz

Well, this is no-go for me. Have seen screenshots here and elsewhere, and SH4 looks awful. Its washed out and strange looking, bland colours and terrible jaggies. (Kinda like GRAW (another UBI no AA-debacle)

I have also read about mad stuttering with high end systems, even with high fps.

Preorder cancelled by stabiz.

I agree Stabiz. It looks gloomy. I posted that about a week ago. All the screehshots looked dark and foreboding to me. Others said no, this was a hollywood effect type deal. I guess it is not.

That is the hollywood effect!! And it CAN be switched off. The graphics/colors look fine - don't worry!

What you do need to worry about is that its all presented in 1024 x 768. If you have a large widescreen LCD be prepared to think you are back playing Aces of the Deep.

I do not need to worry about 1024x768 because this is the resolution I play my games in. I'm good

tommyk · 03-19-07, 06:14 PM

upscaling 1024x768 has nothing to do with FSAA! Its crap!

DJSatane · 03-19-07, 06:18 PM

Everyone is aware that you have to restart the game for resolution change to take effect right?

I am gonna try to do some 1024x vs 1280x comparisons when I get the chance.

stabiz · 03-19-07, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt.LoneRanger

I am still amazed that people think the missing ability of pre 8xxx-nvidias is a Ubi-Bug

It is a purely nVidia-bug, because the video-cards cannot render Post-Processing and FSAA in the same time. Honestly, even 8xxx use a work-around. That is not limited to Ubi or something. It's the same with HL2, BF2142 and any other game, that uses HDR-Effects and runs with pre 8xxx nVidias. If you want to get rid of it, stop complaining about a software-bug in the game and get a next generation nVidia. Or even better: If you pay attention to texture and screen quality, drop your fanboyism and get an ATi-card.

I would easily call it an UBI-bug. Name new non-UBI games with NO AA OPTIONS!

The General · 03-19-07, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DJSatane

Everyone is aware that you have to restart the game for resolution change to take effect right?

OMG I'd laugh if that all this fuss was! There'd be alot of embarassed people here

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03-19-07, 06:02 PM	#226
tommyk Watch Officer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Near U-995 (Kiel, Germany) Posts: 337 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I dont mind a few minor bugs but I am getting more and more disappointed about SH4. Are these the glorious hollywood effects (all fake)? Its no wonder it runs fast on medium rigs if its still 1024x768... I will stay with my PreOrder, try it myself but give it some shelf time. I hate low-res jaggies! __________________ Gute Jagd und fette Beute!

03-19-07, 06:04 PM	#227
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Well, this is no-go for me. Have seen screenshots here and elsewhere, and SH4 looks awful. Its washed out and strange looking, bland colours and terrible jaggies. (Kinda like GRAW (another UBI no AA-debacle) The mad part is that SH3 with GWX looks MUCH better, and they did that for free on their free time. Sure, nice with transparant water and all, but it still looks wierd. Oh, and the pre-release screenshots are a hoax. I have also read about mad stuttering with high end systems, even with high fps. Preorder cancelled by stabiz. __________________

03-19-07, 06:10 PM	#232
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,886 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	The Silent Hunter Series meets Dracula, that last screen was just plain scary __________________ Back in the Day

03-19-07, 06:11 PM	#233
Capt.LoneRanger Bosun Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 65 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I am still amazed that people think the missing ability of pre 8xxx-nvidias is a Ubi-Bug It is a purely nVidia-bug, because the video-cards cannot render Post-Processing and FSAA in the same time. Honestly, even 8xxx use a work-around. That is not limited to Ubi or something. It's the same with HL2, BF2142 and any other game, that uses HDR-Effects and runs with pre 8xxx nVidias. If you want to get rid of it, stop complaining about a software-bug in the game and get a next generation nVidia. Or even better: If you pay attention to texture and screen quality, drop your fanboyism and get an ATi-card. __________________ Greets, Capt.LoneRanger

03-19-07, 06:14 PM	#237
tommyk Watch Officer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Near U-995 (Kiel, Germany) Posts: 337 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	upscaling 1024x768 has nothing to do with FSAA! Its crap! __________________ Gute Jagd und fette Beute!

03-19-07, 06:05 PM	#228
Arrowhead2k1 Torpedoman Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 112 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	I'm speechless...

03-19-07, 06:13 PM	#235
oiler Sailor man Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 44 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	another thing is (at least for me) postproces underwater effects has very low color quality. It seems like 16bit maybe worse. (x1900xtx)

03-19-07, 06:18 PM	#238
DJSatane Electrician's Mate Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 140 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Everyone is aware that you have to restart the game for resolution change to take effect right? I am gonna try to do some 1024x vs 1280x comparisons when I get the chance. __________________ DJSatane - https://twitter.com/DJSatane