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Old 07-26-10, 07:20 PM   #226
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Nice article. I liked the part where they singled out a republican and implied that it was his fault that climate legislation didn't pass. Never mind the fact that Congress is (last I heard) under the democrats rule. Oh don't forget about the fact that both parties do this sort of thing.

Bottom line, when both parties decide to quit playing point the finger I might start listening to what spews from their mouths.
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Old 07-26-10, 07:21 PM   #227
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Old 07-26-10, 07:27 PM   #228
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When are we going to get our collective heads out of our asses and end climate change by just moving the fracking Earth....

Decreased sunlight = decreased global warming... Do I have to think of everything...
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Old 07-26-10, 07:31 PM   #229
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Paul Krugman is a truly unbiased observer who never plays politics and only wants what is best for all of us.




Just like Molly Ivins was.




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Old 07-26-10, 08:06 PM   #230
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To answer your question, I'll guess the Sun. Final answer
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Old 07-29-10, 11:29 AM   #231
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Paul Krugman is a truly unbiased observer who never plays politics and only wants what is best for all of us.




Just like Molly Ivins was.




New York Times ...
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Old 07-29-10, 05:20 PM   #233
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Default NOAA's yearly climate report released

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/bams-state-...imate/2009.php

Again, scientific research results and measuring key variables show that in 2009 it continued to become warmer - all top ten climate indices indicate that.

The page offers download by chapters, full downloads, a summary of ten pages (recommended for a quick overview), and all three options in low and high resolution pdf.
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Old 07-30-10, 11:05 AM   #234
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There is also a lot of chatter about how the data is skewed due to the fact that alot of the temprature monitoring stations are located in the middle of a city surrounded by asphalt and rooftops.

It's curious how global warming always comes up in the summer.
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Old 07-30-10, 11:13 AM   #235
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It's curious how global warming always comes up in the summer.
Ain't it a bugger with the southern hemisphere though....unless of course you go for a turtle on back of 4 elephants...which iof course means one elephant is hot as he is having a must as that is the only explanation.

Considering that elephant people might be rare on this forum so "must" might be confusing, yet knowing there are a good few equine types here, you know how bad a stallion can get when there is a mare ready.....imagine a bull elephant on a must !!!!!!!!

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There is also a lot of chatter
...and about nazi dentistsd and concentration camps where the evil government will steal your gold teeth and melt them down in a gas furnace to prop up oil shares.

Sorry Steamwake but if you consistantly write about piles of conspiracy theories you have heard and then write" a lot of chatter" then what do you expect?
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Better to have warming than cooling. My opinion only.
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Old 07-30-10, 11:29 AM   #237
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Imagine what we could do if the brainpower expended on coming up with ways to ignore facts, data and reality was actually used for something productive.
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Old 07-30-10, 11:38 AM   #238
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Well, all I know is that two years ago our house maintained a cool 67 degrees, and now it never drops below 75. Draw your own conclusions
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There is also a lot of chatter about how the data is skewed due to the fact that alot of the temprature monitoring stations are located in the middle of a city surrounded by asphalt and rooftops.
Er, I don't get the logic behind that.

If I have a thermometer on a rooftop in the middle of a city and it indicates an average of, let's say, 45° throughout a year and five years later it indicates an average temperature of 50° then I shall dismiss this because it was in the middle of a city?
If the temperature monitoring stations have been there for years then their early readings can be compared to their current readings, right? So if their current average readings are higher than those of the earlier days why shouldn't that be a valid observation?
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edit.......and about nazi dentistsd and concentration camps where the evil government will steal your gold teeth and melt them down in a gas furnace to prop up oil shares.

Sorry Steamwake but if you consistantly write about piles of conspiracy theories you have heard and then write" a lot of chatter" then what do you expect?
Errr.... You mean these Nazis?

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The so-called “urban heat island” effect leads to a local warming in more populated areas, showing slightly higher temperatures due to to increased heat generated by cities, rather than a global temperature rise. Anyhow, this argument was confuted by the IPPC, indicating that the effect of the urban heat island on the global temperature trend is no more than 0.05 °C (0.09 °F) degrees through 1990.
http://www.article-buzz.com/Article/...Dispute/156499

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But the argument over the weather stations, and how it affects an important set of data on global warming, has led to accusations of scientific fraud and may yet result in a significant revision of a scientific paper that is still cited by the UN's top climate science body.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...-weather-fraud
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