The all purpose terrorism thread featuring plenty of allah akbar - Page 153

Catfish · 12-11-16, 03:03 PM

What Erdoghan did during "Turkey's war against Daesh" (lmao) masking their war against Kurds will bring interesting times ahead, for Turkey.
Also there are rumours that Erdoghan bought a lot of oil from Daesh, financing their Jihad that also goes against christian Kurds, of course. How's that for the international community?

The Kurds are being crushed between Turkey, Daesh and Iraq.. meanwhile there must be a lot of hate against Turkey, or at least Erdoghan. Not that the latter has not staged terroristic acts himself, trying to blame it on the Kurds. He is a real nice Nato member.
Terrorism is of course the wrong answer. Apart from killing innocent civilians every terror act supports Erdoghan's course against democracy and the Kurds, "legitimizing" his actions.

eddie · 12-12-16, 09:24 AM

I don't want to see terrorist acts against the Turkish people at all either, but like you say, when one does happen over there, automatically it has been done by the Kurds. Couldn't have been done by Gulens people or Daesh, its always the Kurds.

Whats not really funny, Erdoghan lumps the Kurds in with Gulens group! that they work together somehow. He's too stupid to realize Gulen and his thugs hate the Kurds as bad as Erdoghan does and always have. So why would the PKK work with Gulen? Of course with everything else going on in the ME, nothing makes any sense to the never ending hate and killing.

Jimbuna · 12-12-16, 09:31 AM

Erdoghans revenge goes into full swing.

Quote:

Turkish police have detained 235 people for acting on behalf of the outlawed Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK), the interior ministry says.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38288429

eddie · 12-12-16, 10:10 AM

Incredible!

Catfish · 12-12-16, 11:46 AM

They have also fired a lot of teachers (25,000?) and suspended 9,500 others for "supporting terrorism", since their opinion does not please Erdoghan.

Until september 2016 "Turkey has sacked or suspended some 100,000 civil servants including judges, prosecutors, police officers and teachers since a group of rogue soldiers tried to topple the government. At least 40,000 people have been detained for suspected links to U.S.-based cleric Fethullah Gulen, whom Ankara blames for the plot."
http://www.businessinsider.com/r-tur...pm-2016-9?IR=T

Erdoghan also dismissed journalists and brought the media under his control, all with the hint or better pretext to do this against "terrorism". And the Turks love him

eddie · 12-12-16, 12:15 PM

They are locking up all the Kurdish Mayors and politicians too. The ones who haven't been locked up are preparing for the event when they come to arrest them. They pack what they call a "Prison Bag" ahead of time. When they come for them they don't have time to pack, so they do it ahead of time, what a nice way to live!

"Turkey’s crackdown on Kurdish politicians, officials, news outlets, schools, municipalities, think tanks and even charities has been so thoroughgoing that it has left those who remain free expecting arrest at any moment. “My bag is packed for prison,” said Feleknas Uca, an H.D.P. member of Parliament. “Everybody has a bag in their house for prison. Now, everyone can be arrested at any moment.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/10/wo...ests.html?_r=0

Jimbuna · 12-12-16, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by eddie

They are locking up all the Kurdish Mayors and politicians too. The ones who haven't been locked up are preparing for the event when they come to arrest them. They pack what they call a "Prison Bag" ahead of time. When they come for them they don't have time to pack, so they do it ahead of time, what a nice way to live!

"Turkey’s crackdown on Kurdish politicians, officials, news outlets, schools, municipalities, think tanks and even charities has been so thoroughgoing that it has left those who remain free expecting arrest at any moment. “My bag is packed for prison,” said Feleknas Uca, an H.D.P. member of Parliament. “Everybody has a bag in their house for prison. Now, everyone can be arrested at any moment.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/10/wo...ests.html?_r=0

I doubt Turkey will be joining the EU any time soon then

eddie · 12-12-16, 03:18 PM

Sure hope not! By this time though, Erdoghan doesn't care. He has no problem sucking up to Putin now.

eddie · 12-12-16, 03:39 PM

Hundreds of thousands have been forced from their homes, with no place to go. A family who lost their home sometime ago, went back to see what condition it was in. When they got there, all their possessions had been taken out and put into a pile. Then all of it was set on fire! Everything burned up. Now with winter setting up in those mountains they live in, what are they going to do? This is what the Armenians went through in WW I, exactly the same. Nothing less then genocide.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/ne...m-their-homes/

Oberon · 12-12-16, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by eddie

Sure hope not! By this time though, Erdoghan doesn't care. He has no problem sucking up to Putin now.

That's always assuming there'll be an EU to join.

Catfish · 12-12-16, 04:02 PM

^ i admit you are doing your very best, but just maybe the Eu lives on after your* Brexit. It seems that people in Europe are - if very slowly - becoming tired of populism and fake news. Trump was a real wake-up call here, and just of all Austria pushed their populistic FPÖ-'Leader' back, let's see how Italy does next.
The Eu can very well live without Erdoghan, however i really begin to feel pity with those Turks who do not want to live in a medieval society.

* not personal of course

Oberon · 12-12-16, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

^ i admit you are doing your very best, but just maybe the Eu lives on after your* Brexit.

Well, we'll see what next years elections bring, if Holland, France and Germany can all make it through without lurching off into the deep right then it might just make it.

Catfish · 12-12-16, 04:32 PM

The danger is not yet banned, and also Breitbart Media is coming to Germany. Oh joy!

Also, as i learned at Simhq, in the US "the far right" are not national socialists, "leftists" are the real Nazis. The world keeps surprising me.

eddie · 12-12-16, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish

The danger is not yet banned, and also Breitbart Media is coming to Germany. Oh joy!

Also, as i learned at Simhq, in the US "the far right" are not national socialists, "leftists" are the real Nazis. The world keeps surprising me.

We keep the world guessing, I'll say that!

Skybird · 12-12-16, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish

The danger is not yet banned, and also Breitbart Media is coming to Germany. Oh joy!

Also, as i learned at Simhq, in the US "the far right" are not national socialists, "leftists" are the real Nazis. The world keeps surprising me.

The Hitler-Nazis have been hardcore socialists, so you should not be surprised. Nazis are lefties, seen that way. It's one of the biggest proaganda coups every run successfully that the red socialists could convince the world that their socialism was the total, the opposite, the complete natural antagonist to German Nazism. But it never was, in fact it was practically one and the same. Nazi-brown socialism and Soviet-red socialism are the same, offsprings of the same thinking and spirit. The Germans only added racism as a strawman to the formula, that was all. Hitler still said in February 1944 or 1945, in a speech to the party, that there were no principal differences between Bolschewism and Nationalsocialism. Goebbels already in the very early 30s agitated on the basis of socialist ideas and threats against the possessing, rich class. And his words were dratsic already back then, and left no doubt on what private property owners would need to expect if the NSDAP ever claimed power.

There is no principal differences between Nationalsocialism (brown) and Soviet Socialism (red). Its one of the biggest fakes, the biggest jokes of all history that most people see these as opposites. The big war was a brothers' war, so to speak, and ideology was not what Hitler and Stalin fought about.

12-11-16, 03:03 PM	#2281
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,804 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	What Erdoghan did during "Turkey's war against Daesh" (lmao) masking their war against Kurds will bring interesting times ahead, for Turkey. Also there are rumours that Erdoghan bought a lot of oil from Daesh, financing their Jihad that also goes against christian Kurds, of course. How's that for the international community? The Kurds are being crushed between Turkey, Daesh and Iraq.. meanwhile there must be a lot of hate against Turkey, or at least Erdoghan. Not that the latter has not staged terroristic acts himself, trying to blame it on the Kurds. He is a real nice Nato member. Terrorism is of course the wrong answer. Apart from killing innocent civilians every terror act supports Erdoghan's course against democracy and the Kurds, "legitimizing" his actions. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

12-12-16, 09:24 AM	#2282
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	I don't want to see terrorist acts against the Turkish people at all either, but like you say, when one does happen over there, automatically it has been done by the Kurds. Couldn't have been done by Gulens people or Daesh, its always the Kurds. Whats not really funny, Erdoghan lumps the Kurds in with Gulens group! that they work together somehow. He's too stupid to realize Gulen and his thugs hate the Kurds as bad as Erdoghan does and always have. So why would the PKK work with Gulen? Of course with everything else going on in the ME, nothing makes any sense to the never ending hate and killing. __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

12-12-16, 10:10 AM	#2284
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	Incredible! __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

12-12-16, 11:46 AM	#2285
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,804 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	They have also fired a lot of teachers (25,000?) and suspended 9,500 others for "supporting terrorism", since their opinion does not please Erdoghan. Until september 2016 "Turkey has sacked or suspended some 100,000 civil servants including judges, prosecutors, police officers and teachers since a group of rogue soldiers tried to topple the government. At least 40,000 people have been detained for suspected links to U.S.-based cleric Fethullah Gulen, whom Ankara blames for the plot." http://www.businessinsider.com/r-tur...pm-2016-9?IR=T Erdoghan also dismissed journalists and brought the media under his control, all with the hint or better pretext to do this against "terrorism". And the Turks love him __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

12-12-16, 12:15 PM	#2286
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	They are locking up all the Kurdish Mayors and politicians too. The ones who haven't been locked up are preparing for the event when they come to arrest them. They pack what they call a "Prison Bag" ahead of time. When they come for them they don't have time to pack, so they do it ahead of time, what a nice way to live! "Turkey’s crackdown on Kurdish politicians, officials, news outlets, schools, municipalities, think tanks and even charities has been so thoroughgoing that it has left those who remain free expecting arrest at any moment. “My bag is packed for prison,” said Feleknas Uca, an H.D.P. member of Parliament. “Everybody has a bag in their house for prison. Now, everyone can be arrested at any moment.” http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/10/wo...ests.html?_r=0 __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

12-12-16, 03:18 PM	#2288
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	Sure hope not! By this time though, Erdoghan doesn't care. He has no problem sucking up to Putin now. __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

12-12-16, 03:39 PM	#2289
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	Hundreds of thousands have been forced from their homes, with no place to go. A family who lost their home sometime ago, went back to see what condition it was in. When they got there, all their possessions had been taken out and put into a pile. Then all of it was set on fire! Everything burned up. Now with winter setting up in those mountains they live in, what are they going to do? This is what the Armenians went through in WW I, exactly the same. Nothing less then genocide. https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/ne...m-their-homes/ __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

12-12-16, 04:02 PM	#2291
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,804 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	^ i admit you are doing your very best, but just maybe the Eu lives on after your* Brexit. It seems that people in Europe are - if very slowly - becoming tired of populism and fake news. Trump was a real wake-up call here, and just of all Austria pushed their populistic FPÖ-'Leader' back, let's see how Italy does next. The Eu can very well live without Erdoghan, however i really begin to feel pity with those Turks who do not want to live in a medieval society. * not personal of course __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

12-12-16, 04:32 PM	#2293
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,804 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	The danger is not yet banned, and also Breitbart Media is coming to Germany. Oh joy! Also, as i learned at Simhq, in the US "the far right" are not national socialists, "leftists" are the real Nazis. The world keeps surprising me. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.