Patch Suggestions (Monitored by Sonalysts) - Page 15

kage · 12-17-06, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Eagle1_Division

EDIT: Ive read that making new platforms playable is largely opposed. Why is that? I find new platforms extremely exciting. It would draw many people into the game knowing that it can be greatly expanded. I don't see any reason to oppose it. What's the point of making a brick wall that has to be passed in order to expand the game?

You're misunderstanding. SCS has reserved the rights to create new playable platforms. We wish for more, but they have to be provided by SCS.

The opposition is against people going against the license and creating their own user-made playables.

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Last of all I second Sid, we should have 24-bitmaps instead of 256 color. If its for the FPS it should be a on-off feature.

24 bit or preferrably 32-bit graphics is an old wishlist item, but the current is 16-bit, or 65536-color, not 256-color. It's not a framerate thing as much as (I'm guessing here though) an inherent limitation in the graphics engine they are using, that it supposedly inherited from fleet command. (The Fleet command 3d engine was a choice made by EA because they had support people on it already, not because it was necessarily the best suited.)

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I think the very approach of using a database for the various platforms is an obsolete way of thought though.

udadni · 01-15-07, 05:14 AM

I think the biggest gameplay improvement would be the addition of time compression in multiplayer. The game Defcon does this very well, with each player selecting the level they would like, and the game sets the time compression at the slowest level requested. Other than that - thanks for the great game!

Dr.Sid · 01-15-07, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by udadni

I think the biggest gameplay improvement would be the addition of time compression in multiplayer. The game Defcon does this very well, with each player selecting the level they would like, and the game sets the time compression at the slowest level requested. Other than that - thanks for the great game!

I second that .. or some other solution. Good mission design can help a lot, but MP games just takes too much time.
Or what about joining during the game ? That would help too .. I mean occupying already existing AI platform.

Eagle1_Division · 01-16-07, 08:46 PM

Probolly been mentioned in the monsterous 8 pages, but could it be made so that active sonor detects large underwater rock formations and mountains/cliffs(there are plenty in real life), and mabye make it so if a submarine purposely runs aground will be very hard to detect by active pings?-and i didn't know about the collant thing, so shouldn't something happen when a nuclear sub runs aground?

and btw- i laid about 5 active and 1 passive CM's, and the computer(chinese frigate) completely ignored them and started firing deck gun at me

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and last, the active pings are way to accurate, that same chinese frigate got me from 6 nmi away, heading at 15 kts, it was a recreation of the "chinese survailance" on SC, shouldn't it act the same?

LoBlo · 01-20-07, 03:44 PM

Is there a way that the mast wake graphic from SC can be reimplemented into DW? It was such a nice touch that it gave periscope depth a whole new feel.

LoBlo · 01-21-07, 12:07 PM

Hi Sonalyst. Lets revert the physics behavior back to the original please.

I played three single player missions today. The first was a sub exiting port mission, but I lost because the sub did a funky 30 degree seasaw and smashed itself on the ground even *with* waveriding turned off. The 2nd was a 688 mission, but I lost both towed arrays when coming up to PD because the sub decided to do a funky 45 degree ballet show when rising and actually went into reverse severing the arrays. The 3rd was a Akula SAG attack, but I lost the Pelamida before the attack because of the same bizzare ballet stunt...

Of course a player can just not use the patch but the fact that there were also alot of bug fixes would be unfortunate to loose. For all its worth, it doesn't seem like the "physics upgrade" really added anything to the game except more bugs and more frustration, without any real benefit. How about giving us a quick 1.03c patch that will include all the bug fixes to date, but also revert the physics back to the original.

Molon Labe · 01-21-07, 12:27 PM

Have we forgotten about the drunken planesman so quickly?

LoBlo · 01-21-07, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Molon Labe

Have we forgotten about the drunken planesman so quickly?

drunken planeman?

As I remember... though its has been awhile... but as I remember the impetus of wanting new physics behavior was to keep ships from turning at full speed without loosing any speed (deemed by some a unrealistic) and to make subs feel a snaproll effect and speed loss with high speed turning.

at least that's what I remember about it... to be honest with you, I'm not sure what 1.02 and 1.03 were originally "fixing" actually. But look at all the trouble its caused.

EDIT: Now I remember. It was a sonar model upgrade wasn't it...

EDIT: NM since 1.04 is so close.

LoBlo · 01-26-07, 04:45 PM

Hi SCS, 1.04 is great. Really a nice piece of work. Great job.

LoBlo · 01-27-07, 02:33 PM

Is it too early for patch 1.05 suggestions....:hmm:

How about audio course feedback for the OHP just like the subs
"Come left to course 090 helm aye"
when reach course
"Steady on course 090" <--- currently included in the sub's audio but not the OHP

Similarly how about audio feedback whenever a ordered depth is reached as well
"Make my depth 600 feet dive aya"
when reach depth
"My depth is 600 feet"

LoBlo · 01-27-07, 04:32 PM

Another suggestion for 1.05. Consider adding the aft prop wake to a surfaced submarine just like a surfaced ship. Currently their's a bow wake, but not a aft wake.

An identical effect to that of surface ships seems like it would be a nice addition and gives a nice feel to those port transit missions.

Bubblehead Nuke · 01-27-07, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by LoBlo

Is it too early for patch 1.05 suggestions....:hmm:

How about audio course feedback for the OHP just like the subs
"Come left to course 090 helm aye"
when reach course
"Steady on course 090" <--- currently included in the sub's audio but not the OHP

Similarly how about audio feedback whenever a ordered depth is reached as well
"Make my depth 600 feet dive aya"
when reach depth
"My depth is 600 feet"

EXCELLENT suggestion. Provide feedback that you commands have been recieved and acted upon. Even nicer when you give verbal commands like I do.

Linton · 01-28-07, 06:12 AM

Please can we have a realistic looking Trafalgar with pump jet?

LoBlo · 01-28-07, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Linton

Please can we have a realistic looking Trafalgar with pump jet?

That's very simple to install from SCX. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=102969

Eagle1_Division · 01-28-07, 06:42 PM

What about the ability to place missles/torpedoes and their tactic in the editor?

01-16-07, 08:46 PM	#214
Eagle1_Division Bosun Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 66 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Probolly been mentioned in the monsterous 8 pages, but could it be made so that active sonor detects large underwater rock formations and mountains/cliffs(there are plenty in real life), and mabye make it so if a submarine purposely runs aground will be very hard to detect by active pings?-and i didn't know about the collant thing, so shouldn't something happen when a nuclear sub runs aground? and btw- i laid about 5 active and 1 passive CM's, and the computer(chinese frigate) completely ignored them and started firing deck gun at me. and last, the active pings are way to accurate, that same chinese frigate got me from 6 nmi away, heading at 15 kts, it was a recreation of the "chinese survailance" on SC, shouldn't it act the same?

01-20-07, 03:44 PM	#215
LoBlo Subsim Diehard Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas! Posts: 971 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 3	Is there a way that the mast wake graphic from SC can be reimplemented into DW? It was such a nice touch that it gave periscope depth a whole new feel. __________________ "Seek not to offend or annoy... only to speak the truth"-a wise man

01-21-07, 12:07 PM	#216
LoBlo Subsim Diehard Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas! Posts: 971 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 3	Hi Sonalyst. Lets revert the physics behavior back to the original please. I played three single player missions today. The first was a sub exiting port mission, but I lost because the sub did a funky 30 degree seasaw and smashed itself on the ground even with waveriding turned off. The 2nd was a 688 mission, but I lost both towed arrays when coming up to PD because the sub decided to do a funky 45 degree ballet show when rising and actually went into reverse severing the arrays. The 3rd was a Akula SAG attack, but I lost the Pelamida before the attack because of the same bizzare ballet stunt... Of course a player can just not use the patch but the fact that there were also alot of bug fixes would be unfortunate to loose. For all its worth, it doesn't seem like the "physics upgrade" really added anything to the game except more bugs and more frustration, without any real benefit. How about giving us a quick 1.03c patch that will include all the bug fixes to date, but also revert the physics back to the original. __________________ "Seek not to offend or annoy... only to speak the truth"-a wise man

01-21-07, 12:27 PM	#217
Molon Labe Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Along the Watchtower Posts: 3,810 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 5	Have we forgotten about the drunken planesman so quickly? __________________

01-26-07, 04:45 PM	#219
LoBlo Subsim Diehard Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas! Posts: 971 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 3	Hi SCS, 1.04 is great. Really a nice piece of work. Great job. __________________ "Seek not to offend or annoy... only to speak the truth"-a wise man

01-15-07, 05:14 AM	#212
udadni Watch Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 18 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I think the biggest gameplay improvement would be the addition of time compression in multiplayer. The game Defcon does this very well, with each player selecting the level they would like, and the game sets the time compression at the slowest level requested. Other than that - thanks for the great game!

01-27-07, 02:33 PM	#220
LoBlo Subsim Diehard Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas! Posts: 971 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 3	Is it too early for patch 1.05 suggestions....:hmm: How about audio course feedback for the OHP just like the subs "Come left to course 090 helm aye" when reach course "Steady on course 090" <--- currently included in the sub's audio but not the OHP Similarly how about audio feedback whenever a ordered depth is reached as well "Make my depth 600 feet dive aya" when reach depth "My depth is 600 feet" __________________ "Seek not to offend or annoy... only to speak the truth"-a wise man

01-27-07, 04:32 PM	#221
LoBlo Subsim Diehard Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas! Posts: 971 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 3	Another suggestion for 1.05. Consider adding the aft prop wake to a surfaced submarine just like a surfaced ship. Currently their's a bow wake, but not a aft wake. An identical effect to that of surface ships seems like it would be a nice addition and gives a nice feel to those port transit missions. __________________ "Seek not to offend or annoy... only to speak the truth"-a wise man

01-28-07, 06:12 AM	#223
Linton Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Please can we have a realistic looking Trafalgar with pump jet? __________________ http://lintonsview.blogspot.com/

01-28-07, 06:42 PM	#225
Eagle1_Division Bosun Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 66 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	What about the ability to place missles/torpedoes and their tactic in the editor?