[REL] PPI Circle Range Mark v1.22 - Page 15

ReallyDedPoet · 06-06-07, 10:57 AM

Nice to watch this continualy evolve, great work for sure

RDP

CaptainCox · 06-06-07, 11:01 AM

Actually since I started to use RFB 1.28 i spend much more time at the radar. Are you planning to upload the latest (with the noise) etc ?

DarkShip · 06-06-07, 06:31 PM

@ Mraah,
Check PM, plz
Thanks.

@ Donut and possibly Sledge_57,

Regarding your comments on the real CRT:

- Could you give me some details on the appearance of the range cercles.
Are they more/less visible than in the picture below (= original SH4).

- What's the real color of the bearing #?
(This PPI is a simple WIP. Bearing # orientation is not historically correct)

Thx guys.

I can't get rid of the range word, although I have installed Anvart's .act file
(Checked and edited, it's the good one all right). Strange...

Any help would be much appreciated!

Cheers,

DS

Sledge_57 · 06-06-07, 10:18 PM

Well I'm no help to ya, I was on a ship but they kept my A$$ locked up in the engine room

I wasn't allowed near any of that "newfangled" equipment

MONOLITH · 06-06-07, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mraah

Screen shots of latest WIP :

Suggestions/Comments?

Thank you.

Mraah

Awesome stuff Mraah.

I really appreciate your efforts.

DarkShip · 06-07-07, 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sledge_57

Well I'm no help to ya, I was on a ship but they kept my A$$ locked up in the engine room

Thanks, Sledge!
An eagle without wings can't reach the opposite bank - Chinese saying. (Well, could be...)

donut · 06-07-07, 06:52 AM

I kinda like the blue bearing index,although I do not recall prominent range rings on surface search. That accurate ranging was for gun fire control radar. Similar to the SHIV spike trace radar scope,(your other scope), not PPI. PPI was just for how many targets/bearing. The other scope is for more accurate ranging,more directional,for better return signal definition,than sweep. You are taking me back nearly 40 years,recall fades some.:hmm: You-

! The SD radar was the oldest surface search,it had the line trace,w/target size indicated by spike on trace line. I think originally the Devs. were going to use that for aircraft only.

Mraah · 06-07-07, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anvart

Good work, Mraah.

... But it's not for me ...
I do not like your big noise ...
You can do all as that you represent yourself.
I have written my opinion only ...

Thank you. The extra noise is just an idea. I'm still learning how to add more special effects code to the pixel shader. Your original edit is wonderful, to bring the grid on top as per the dev's intentions. Your edit makes creating various grid patterns easier since the background color can be changed without drawing a new grid pattern everytime.

Mraah

Mraah · 06-07-07, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainCox

Actually since I started to use RFB 1.28 i spend much more time at the radar. Are you planning to upload the latest (with the noise) etc ?

Yes. There will be two variant packs ...

(1) Normal
(2) Small Noise

EDIT : The noise variant is still WIP ... it may not make it into v1.22, and might be an extra download depending on how well I can keep the grid from being blended into the sweep. I'm trying to keep the grid as an overlay.

Both as seen in screen shots before.
I will have LukeFF's spider web and Redwines version too.
EDIT : Darkships PPI variant from post # 213 above (that looks cool eh?)

I plan on two colors for the grid, green and blue.

The RADAR.dss determines the overall background for the PPI/A-scope and that file can be swapped from previous versions by the skipper to get the effect they want. Currently, there is only the default blue/green (sh4), my totally black, and Redwines dark green RADAR.dss to swap out. I'll have a new RADAR version in 1.22 with the bright green in the middle and fading towards the edges.

With Anvart's new code in the pixel shader it is very easy now for skippers to create their own grid color. My original v1.21 ppi's were just layers, no alpha transparency. The Alpha is just a grey-scale using the color of the background to which the program only displays the grid. If a skipper wants a new grid color they simply change the background color while attaining the original alpha.

I'm still teaching myself how to add more effects in the pixel shader and will probably add more PPI displays variants as time goes by.

Hopefully in a few days I will have v1.22 out with the grids. I took wednesday off from modding. It's good to take a day off and reflect on which ideas would be most useful to players without creating extranious garbage.

thanks!

Mraah

Mraah · 06-08-07, 12:41 AM

WIP v1.22 --- 4 PPI's

Notes on Screen Shots ;
-1920x1200-viewed with Anvarts camera
-Anvarts PPIRadarPS.fx
-Anvarts SHController.act
-Post Processor OFF for 1-3
-RedWines Background

(1) Default Ring / Azimuth added

(2) RedWines PPI

(3) LukeFF Spiderweb PPI

(4) Default Ring / Green Azimuth

(4a) Post Processor ON from #4

EDIT - Post Processor default grainy

Suggestions/ Comments

Mraah

Mraah · 06-08-07, 01:25 AM

WIP v122 - Additional PPI

Screenshot notes ;
-1920x1200 crop -Anvarts camera view
-Anvarts SHController.act
-3rd Generation PPIRadarPS.fx - Anvarts original edit + Mraah edit
-Faded Green Background
-Post Processor OFF (except 6a)

(5) #4 PPI Rings/Azimuth - Noise OFF

(6) | (6a) #4 PPI Rings/Azimuth - Noise ON / 6a Post Processor ON

EDIT - Post Processor default grainy
EDIT - PPI's 1-3 can have faded green background (radar.dss), however 3rd gen fx required for best result.

Suggestions/Comments

Mraah

LukeFF · 06-08-07, 01:32 AM

Nice!

Can you do a verison of #6 (noise and bearing numbers) with the spiderweb pattern?

CaptainCox · 06-08-07, 01:38 AM

Yea for me Nr6 looks best. Never seen a real radar display, well I have. Did some Design work for the Swedish Air Force (Bofors Electronics) back in the late 80's. But it involved the actual Console, the display looked more like a computer game then a radar, all digital of course

Anvart · 06-08-07, 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mraah

WIP v1.22 --- 4 PPI's

Notes on Screen Shots ;
-1920x1200-viewed with Anvarts camera
-Anvarts PPIRadarPS.fx
-Anvarts SHController.act
-Post Processor OFF for 1-3
-RedWines Background

(1) Default Ring / Azimuth added

(2) RedWines PPI

(3) LukeFF Spiderweb PPI

(4) Default Ring / Green Azimuth

(4a) Post Processor ON from #4

EDIT - Post Processor default grainy

Suggestions/ Comments

Mraah

All looks very well, but i think 1-st more realy ...

Mraah · 06-08-07, 02:23 AM

WIP LukeFF #6 noise w/ Spiderweb

Screenshot notes ;
-1920x1200 crop -Anvarts camera view
-Anvarts SHController.act
-3rd Generation PPIRadarPS.fx - Anvarts original edit + Mraah edit
-Faded Green Background

(7) | (7a) 40% Noise / Post Processor ON 7a

(8) | (8a) 80% Noise / Post Processor ON 8a

note- fries and supersize drink not included.
note - Post Processor default grainy.

Mraah

06-06-07, 10:57 AM	#211
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,887 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	Nice to watch this continualy evolve, great work for sure RDP __________________ Back in the Day

06-06-07, 11:01 AM	#212
CaptainCox Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: A Swede in Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,897 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Actually since I started to use RFB 1.28 i spend much more time at the radar. Are you planning to upload the latest (with the noise) etc ? __________________ DOWNLOAD MY MODS HERE

06-06-07, 10:18 PM	#214
Sledge_57 Seaman Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 38 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Well I'm no help to ya, I was on a ship but they kept my A$$ locked up in the engine room I wasn't allowed near any of that "newfangled" equipment __________________ Sledge

06-07-07, 06:52 AM	#217
donut The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: The Shifting, Whispering Sands, NM Posts: 1,463 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	@ DarkShip I kinda like the blue bearing index,although I do not recall prominent range rings on surface search. That accurate ranging was for gun fire control radar. Similar to the SHIV spike trace radar scope,(your other scope), not PPI. PPI was just for how many targets/bearing. The other scope is for more accurate ranging,more directional,for better return signal definition,than sweep. You are taking me back nearly 40 years,recall fades some.:hmm: You- ! The SD radar was the oldest surface search,it had the line trace,w/target size indicated by spike on trace line. I think originally the Devs. were going to use that for aircraft only. Last edited by donut; 06-07-07 at 07:21 AM.

06-08-07, 12:41 AM	#220
Mraah Engineer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Conning Tower - repairing the radar. Posts: 200 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	WIP v1.22 --- 4 PPI's Notes on Screen Shots ; -1920x1200-viewed with Anvarts camera -Anvarts PPIRadarPS.fx -Anvarts SHController.act -Post Processor OFF for 1-3 -RedWines Background (1) Default Ring / Azimuth added (2) RedWines PPI (3) LukeFF Spiderweb PPI (4) Default Ring / Green Azimuth (4a) Post Processor ON from #4 EDIT - Post Processor default grainy Suggestions/ Comments Mraah Last edited by Mraah; 06-08-07 at 01:28 AM.

06-06-07, 06:31 PM	#213
DarkShip Mate Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 56 Downloads: 217 Uploads: 0	@ Mraah, Check PM, plz Thanks. @ Donut and possibly Sledge_57, Regarding your comments on the real CRT: - Could you give me some details on the appearance of the range cercles. Are they more/less visible than in the picture below (= original SH4). - What's the real color of the bearing #? (This PPI is a simple WIP. Bearing # orientation is not historically correct) Thx guys. I can't get rid of the range word, although I have installed Anvart's .act file (Checked and edited, it's the good one all right). Strange... Any help would be much appreciated! Cheers, DS

06-08-07, 01:25 AM	#221
Mraah Engineer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Conning Tower - repairing the radar. Posts: 200 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	WIP v122 - Additional PPI Screenshot notes ; -1920x1200 crop -Anvarts camera view -Anvarts SHController.act -3rd Generation PPIRadarPS.fx - Anvarts original edit + Mraah edit -Faded Green Background -Post Processor OFF (except 6a) (5) #4 PPI Rings/Azimuth - Noise OFF (6) \| (6a) #4 PPI Rings/Azimuth - Noise ON / 6a Post Processor ON EDIT - Post Processor default grainy EDIT - PPI's 1-3 can have faded green background (radar.dss), however 3rd gen fx required for best result. Suggestions/Comments Mraah Last edited by Mraah; 06-08-07 at 01:40 AM.

06-08-07, 01:32 AM	#222
LukeFF Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Riverside, California Posts: 3,610 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 5	Nice! Can you do a verison of #6 (noise and bearing numbers) with the spiderweb pattern?

06-08-07, 01:38 AM	#223
CaptainCox Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: A Swede in Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,897 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Yea for me Nr6 looks best. Never seen a real radar display, well I have. Did some Design work for the Swedish Air Force (Bofors Electronics) back in the late 80's. But it involved the actual Console, the display looked more like a computer game then a radar, all digital of course __________________ DOWNLOAD MY MODS HERE

06-08-07, 02:23 AM	#225
Mraah Engineer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Conning Tower - repairing the radar. Posts: 200 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	WIP LukeFF #6 noise w/ Spiderweb Screenshot notes ; -1920x1200 crop -Anvarts camera view -Anvarts SHController.act -3rd Generation PPIRadarPS.fx - Anvarts original edit + Mraah edit -Faded Green Background (7) \| (7a) 40% Noise / Post Processor ON 7a (8) \| (8a) 80% Noise / Post Processor ON 8a note- fries and supersize drink not included. note - Post Processor default grainy. Mraah