SH4 Specs... What Upgrades Do I Need??? - Page 15

Kruger · 03-07-07, 01:11 PM

7600GT has 12 pixel pipes, 1 texture mapping unit and 5 vertex processing units. X1650XT on the other hand has 24 pixel pipes, 1 texture mapping unit and 8 vertex processing units. So with twice as many pixel pipelines the X1650XT should have a performance advantage over the 7600GT.

This situation is on the paper. However, in practice you discover that both do the same job. My personal oppinion, based on my experience, is that sh3 (and of course sh4) engine, is slighlty optimized for ATI.

Ark · 03-07-07, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The Renegade

One last thing that's a bit unrelated. Does anyone know anything about ATI's DX10 cards, except that they've been delayed (again) ? For some reason, I've always liked ATI over nVidia, but I might decide to switch sides if the R600 fails to impress.

The next ATI card is, if the pcitures I've seen are correct and not just my eyes playing tricks on me,...HUGE. I think it might even be somewhat longer than an 8800GTX. Essentially, good luck fitting it in a Midsize tower. Also, you will probably want a much beefier PSU (depending on what else you were running).

I'm not much for brand loyalty, but I just don't like the size of the new ATI (as I stated earlier...if the pics I've seen of it aren't just a size misrepresentation). Keep in mind, ATI is playing catch-up. If I were you, I would wait to see what Nvidia has to answer ATI's offering. The 8800 series has been out a little while and has had more time to mature.

THE_MASK · 03-07-07, 05:50 PM

I just came up with a solution for my computer worries . I will confiscate my sons laptop . He doesnt know it yet , but he owns a lean mean SH4 machine .

flintlock · 03-07-07, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sober

I will confiscate my sons laptop . He doesnt know it yet

Sometimes you just have to pull rank.

bert8for3 · 03-10-07, 02:30 PM

Ugh, thought I was going to be able to bump this comp from 1Gig up to 2Gig of RAM for sh4, ran this utility called PC Wizard which gave me the motherboard specs and said it could take 2 Gig. But the shop says it's wrong according to the HP specs for the comp ... should have checked the HP website, I guess. I only hope sh4 will run semi-ok - may have to crank down the video settings.

Javigato · 03-10-07, 04:33 PM

Do you think I will be able to play with my new laptop?

AMD Turion™ 64 X2 mobile technology TL-56 at 1.8GHz
2GB RAM
120GB HD
NVIDIA GeForce Go 6150 (UMA)with up to 288MB shared video memory

Thanks!

canimodo · 03-11-07, 09:56 AM

Hi Mr. ALL !!

Will a 256Mb X800 Pro AGP 8x do ok on this new game ??

lol, btw i only found out US had subs in WW2 was when this game was announced.... :hmm:

tommyk · 03-11-07, 10:32 AM

x800 is fast but has no Pixel Shader 3.0

Its hard to tell but maybe water will look like SH3 (not transparent). I have not seen a screenshot or comment how SH4 will look like with PS2.0

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=107323

AJ! · 03-11-07, 10:36 AM

You will be able to run the game fine on med-high detail

I dont think PS 3.0 will be a problem either.

bert8for3 · 03-11-07, 11:09 AM

Discovering that my RAM isn't upgradeable beyond 1Gig has me thinking about a new comp, and about building my own ... does anyone know a how-to site that can help particularly in choosing components, making sure they're compatible etc? Also, a good direct-buy site in Canada? Right now I'm looking at Tiger Direct's Canadian site.

03-11-07, 11:24 AM

My buddy swears by, not at, NCIX for all his computer components. Direct price and product comparisons we have discussed in regards to upgrades and new builds specifically for new games like SH4 shows that NCIX can beat out even local brick and mortar discounters. Check 'em out.

His latest build topped out at ~2kC$ and is a kick-ass machine. All parts from NCIX, home assembled by him. I will be doing the same soon as soon as I have my 2k$ saved up and wll be my second home build and curiously enough SH is responsible, go figure.:hmm: New game, new computer needed. They got us by the short and curlies matey

bert8for3 · 03-11-07, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by UBootMann

My buddy swears by, not at, NCIX for all his computer components. Direct price and product comparisons we have discussed in regards to upgrades and new builds specifically for new games like SH4 shows that NCIX can beat out even local brick and mortar discounters. Check 'em out.

His latest build topped out at ~2kC$ and is a kick-ass machine. All parts from NCIX, home assembled by him. I will be doing the same soon as soon as I have my 2k$ saved up and wll be my second home build and curiously enough SH is responsible, go figure.:hmm: New game, new computer needed. They got us by the short and curlies matey

Thanks, I'll check that out. Maybe I can delude myself into thinking that I've got the system beat ... unlikely, the last part that is ... deluding myself not a prob

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PAW · 03-13-07, 06:33 AM

I'm just glad i got into the sub scene BEFORE this comes out. Now i will fully appreciate how much of an improvement this WILL be over ANY submarine game so far.
And yeah, i'm scared after watching that preview.

I got
nVidia 7800 GS (256)
3GB RAM
Intel 3.0GHz PC

now although many might think this should be sufficient, I am not convinced.
I have tried playing Rainbow 6 : Vegas and Armed Assault and i STILL cannot pump my graphics up to full and experience flawless frames. (Note the "still" as i have been upgrading this ageing AGP for some time now). In fact i'm still having to mess around with the lower end settings.

Now a m8 of mine has an ATI (one of the last AGP's released). His graphics card is a 512 yet he has only 1 GB of ram, similar CPU and half the bus speed. HE can rack his graphics up very nicely indeed (plus the general image is better AA/AF + HDR possible).
I'm starting to wonder, is my graphics card really that terrible? or is it because my power supply isn't sufficient? I'm running on a 550 W power supply but my graphics card needs additional power (unlike my older FX5900 or something number like that) I fly alot so i power up TrackIR and my CH pedals/ stick/ throttle, and i've just recently purchased a Razer mouse and G15 logitech keyboard.
Is my power supply a problem? Is my graphics card the problem? Or have i overlooked something else?

ANY help would be much appreciated. I'm getting near broke now and really wanna buy this game. I also would hate to have to fork out ... quick look at OC.UK ... ANOTHER 100 quid for something that'll become redundant all too soon (gonna have to upgrade the whole system when Storm of War: Battle of Britain comes out... who knows what i'll need by then).

ReallyDedPoet · 03-13-07, 07:47 AM

I finally get to check this page out as I am going to get a new computer, first I will wait to see how the game runs on my present one then go from there. Probably will build it from scratch:hmm:

THE_MASK · 03-13-07, 06:34 PM

[quote=PAW]I'm just glad i got into the sub scene BEFORE this comes out. Now i will fully appreciate how much of an improvement this WILL be over ANY submarine game so far.
And yeah, i'm scared after watching that preview.

I got
nVidia 7800 GS (256)
3GB RAM
Intel 3.0GHz PC

Dear Paw . I bet that like SH3 , SH4 recommended specs will actually be the minimum specs , and thats for settings on low . I am more scared than you and so is my bank balance .

03-11-07, 09:56 AM	#217
canimodo A-ganger Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 73 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	X800 Pro ! Good enough ??? Hi Mr. ALL !! Will a 256Mb X800 Pro AGP 8x do ok on this new game ?? lol, btw i only found out US had subs in WW2 was when this game was announced.... :hmm:

03-11-07, 10:32 AM	#218
tommyk Watch Officer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Near U-995 (Kiel, Germany) Posts: 337 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	x800 is fast but has no Pixel Shader 3.0 Its hard to tell but maybe water will look like SH3 (not transparent). I have not seen a screenshot or comment how SH4 will look like with PS2.0 http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=107323 __________________ Gute Jagd und fette Beute!

03-11-07, 10:36 AM	#219
AJ! Commodore Join Date: May 2006 Location: That lil island above france Posts: 601 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	You will be able to run the game fine on med-high detail I dont think PS 3.0 will be a problem either. __________________

03-13-07, 07:47 AM	#224
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,888 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	I finally get to check this page out as I am going to get a new computer, first I will wait to see how the game runs on my present one then go from there. Probably will build it from scratch:hmm: __________________ Back in the Day

03-07-07, 01:11 PM	#211
Kruger Commander Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 476 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	7600GT has 12 pixel pipes, 1 texture mapping unit and 5 vertex processing units. X1650XT on the other hand has 24 pixel pipes, 1 texture mapping unit and 8 vertex processing units. So with twice as many pixel pipelines the X1650XT should have a performance advantage over the 7600GT. This situation is on the paper. However, in practice you discover that both do the same job. My personal oppinion, based on my experience, is that sh3 (and of course sh4) engine, is slighlty optimized for ATI.

03-07-07, 05:50 PM	#213
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	I just came up with a solution for my computer worries . I will confiscate my sons laptop . He doesnt know it yet , but he owns a lean mean SH4 machine .

03-10-07, 02:30 PM	#215
bert8for3 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,124 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 0	Ugh, thought I was going to be able to bump this comp from 1Gig up to 2Gig of RAM for sh4, ran this utility called PC Wizard which gave me the motherboard specs and said it could take 2 Gig. But the shop says it's wrong according to the HP specs for the comp ... should have checked the HP website, I guess. I only hope sh4 will run semi-ok - may have to crank down the video settings.

03-10-07, 04:33 PM	#216
Javigato A-ganger Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 79 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Do you think I will be able to play with my new laptop? AMD Turion™ 64 X2 mobile technology TL-56 at 1.8GHz 2GB RAM 120GB HD NVIDIA GeForce Go 6150 (UMA)with up to 288MB shared video memory Thanks!

03-11-07, 11:09 AM	#220
bert8for3 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,124 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 0	Discovering that my RAM isn't upgradeable beyond 1Gig has me thinking about a new comp, and about building my own ... does anyone know a how-to site that can help particularly in choosing components, making sure they're compatible etc? Also, a good direct-buy site in Canada? Right now I'm looking at Tiger Direct's Canadian site.

03-11-07, 11:24 AM	#221
UBootMann Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	My buddy swears by, not at, NCIX for all his computer components. Direct price and product comparisons we have discussed in regards to upgrades and new builds specifically for new games like SH4 shows that NCIX can beat out even local brick and mortar discounters. Check 'em out. His latest build topped out at ~2kC$ and is a kick-ass machine. All parts from NCIX, home assembled by him. I will be doing the same soon as soon as I have my 2k$ saved up and wll be my second home build and curiously enough SH is responsible, go figure.:hmm: New game, new computer needed. They got us by the short and curlies matey

03-13-07, 06:33 AM	#223
PAW Seaman Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 34 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	I'm just glad i got into the sub scene BEFORE this comes out. Now i will fully appreciate how much of an improvement this WILL be over ANY submarine game so far. And yeah, i'm scared after watching that preview. I got nVidia 7800 GS (256) 3GB RAM Intel 3.0GHz PC now although many might think this should be sufficient, I am not convinced. I have tried playing Rainbow 6 : Vegas and Armed Assault and i STILL cannot pump my graphics up to full and experience flawless frames. (Note the "still" as i have been upgrading this ageing AGP for some time now). In fact i'm still having to mess around with the lower end settings. Now a m8 of mine has an ATI (one of the last AGP's released). His graphics card is a 512 yet he has only 1 GB of ram, similar CPU and half the bus speed. HE can rack his graphics up very nicely indeed (plus the general image is better AA/AF + HDR possible). I'm starting to wonder, is my graphics card really that terrible? or is it because my power supply isn't sufficient? I'm running on a 550 W power supply but my graphics card needs additional power (unlike my older FX5900 or something number like that) I fly alot so i power up TrackIR and my CH pedals/ stick/ throttle, and i've just recently purchased a Razer mouse and G15 logitech keyboard. Is my power supply a problem? Is my graphics card the problem? Or have i overlooked something else? ANY help would be much appreciated. I'm getting near broke now and really wanna buy this game. I also would hate to have to fork out ... quick look at OC.UK ... ANOTHER 100 quid for something that'll become redundant all too soon (gonna have to upgrade the whole system when Storm of War: Battle of Britain comes out... who knows what i'll need by then).

03-13-07, 06:34 PM	#225
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	[quote=PAW]I'm just glad i got into the sub scene BEFORE this comes out. Now i will fully appreciate how much of an improvement this WILL be over ANY submarine game so far. And yeah, i'm scared after watching that preview. I got nVidia 7800 GS (256) 3GB RAM Intel 3.0GHz PC Dear Paw . I bet that like SH3 , SH4 recommended specs will actually be the minimum specs , and thats for settings on low . I am more scared than you and so is my bank balance .