GER politics thread

[Skybird]

this place has become so completely f. u., all hope is in vein.

[em2nought]

Holy crap! "Liberal judge with multiple cats" LMAO

[Skybird]

In Germany it seems to be "Anything goes" now. Since the knife murderings in Solingen, not a single day, not one has passed since then without another lethal attack on the street prominantly reported in the media, mostly by knives. Not all of them had a terrorist background, not all of them had an "asylum rejected"-background, but I think all of them were committed by people with a migrant background: Syrians, Afghans, Turks. And right now, a minute ago I red the latest news that in Siegen a women has stabbed five people in a bus in Solingen, three victims are fighting for their lives. [Correction: 6 people stabbed.]

And I thought it would be the first day today since Solingen without another assassination on the streets in the headlines.

Meanwhile, 28 highly criminal Afghans were flown out to Afghanistan - after preparing this operation for over 6 months. 28 heads. 6 months. A chartered 737 just for this, for 28. Total costs range in the high 7 digit range. For 28 criminals from another country. Do the math. Its about a miserable 28 individuals. 6 months. Millions of Euros. For getting rid of 28 worthless pieces of brutal criminals.

Each of these criminal scumbags also was paid 1000 Euros of German tax money as a farewell present, called "Handgeld". Lovely is the reaction by the usual suspects from Amnesty International. They condemn Germany for getting rid of this criminal human gabarge. But reasonable thinking never was a feature AI had ever mastered. Well, its AI. What else to expect from these [insert rotten smelly word of your liking].

One thing worth to know: criminals committing capital crimes cannot be sent back, but must be brought to German justice and jail. I am split on the logic in this, but you here have a clear motive for committing murder or any other brutal offence as a means for preventing your deportation. Go to Germany, get no asylum, kill somebody, stay forever as a reward. Kind of blackmailing the state for unlimited stay in Germany by slaughtering people.

This country is done.

[Jimbuna]

^ That is most worrying Marc and probably replicated in more countries than anyone would be comfortable admitting to.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

^ That is most worrying Marc and probably replicated in more countries than anyone would be comfortable admitting to.

Well, France is done as well. Britain. Sweden. The US.

[complete the list to your liking]


Degeneration und Verfall allenthalben.


Oswald Spengler was right. And a few others like him, even already at their time they saw coming what destroys us now.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Well, France is done as well. Britain. Sweden. The US.

[complete the list to your liking]


Degeneration und Verfall allenthalben.


Oswald Spengler was right. And a few others like him, even already at their time they saw coming what destroys us now.

What is confusing for me is-People say they have seen the scripture on the wall for decades....and still they vote on these parties who was responsible for the situation the country are in.

Markus

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by mapuc

What is confusing for me is-People say they have seen the scripture on the wall for decades....and still they vote on these parties who was responsible for the situation the country are in.

Markus

If it were so easy, but it is not, alternative parties run against the same problems as the older and politics is a 4-5 year project this kinda problems take at least a decade to solve.

[Shadowblade]

@Skybird - I watch the news from Germany and the situation is insane there - illegal migrants are stabbing, beating and killing people and the official solution is to prohibit knives again and make them smaller.

yeah, we can see how it worked last time <facepalm>

it sounds like the definition of insanity from Far Cry 3:






Knives are allowed here and there is no epidemic of stabbing here. Why?
Because we dont have illegal migrants from Africa and Middle East here.

Amnesty International - this malicious organization started campaign in media against legal gun owners here <facepalm>.
It sounds like AI does not like safety situation here and wants to make it worse.

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by Shadowblade

@Skybird - I watch the news from Germany and the situation is insane there - illegal migrants are stabbing, beating and killing people and the official solution is to prohibit knives again and make them smaller.

yeah, we can see how it worked last time <facepalm>

it sounds like the definition of insanity from Far Cry 3:

Knives are allowed here and there is no epidemic of stabbing here. Why?
Because we dont have illegal migrants from Africa and Middle East here.

Amnesty International - this malicious organization started campaign in media against legal gun owners here <facepalm>.
It sounds like AI does not like safety situation here and wants to make it worse.

In the German town of Siegen, perpetrator is a German woman is an acquaintance of the police and there are indications that she has mental problems and was apparently heavily intoxicated or under the influence of drugs.

[Shadowblade]

Originally Posted by Dargo

In the German town of Siegen, perpetrator is a German woman is an acquaintance of the police and there are indications that she has mental problems and was apparently heavily intoxicated or under the influence of drugs.

yes, I know that attacker in bus was a German woman - media here usually dont tell us the nationality of attackers if they are outside of Europe, but if it is European they always tell it.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Dargo

If it were so easy, but it is not, alternative parties run against the same problems as the older and politics is a 4-5 year project this kinda problems take at least a decade to solve.

Within this decade hundred of thousands more immigrants or refugees have entered the country. To solve the problem the country need a full stop for immigrants and refugees.

Markus

[Shadowblade]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Within this decade hundred of thousands more immigrants or refugees have entered the country. To solve the problem the country need a full stop for immigrants and refugees.

Markus

whole EU needs full stop on immigration from outside of Europe.


But I doubt it will happen - even infamous immigrant smuggler Carola Rackete is now in EU parliament <facepalm>

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Within this decade hundred of thousands more immigrants or refugees have entered the country. To solve the problem the country need a full stop for immigrants and refugees.

Markus

If this would be the problem, but they are not, certainly not in Europe. The single most important cause of migration is not poverty or misery in origin countries, but the demand for labour. The majority of global migrants are labour migrants. At a time when a country has high labour shortages, as now in Europe, we attract a lot of migrants. These shortages are partly caused by Europeans becoming better and more educated and no longer wanting to do all kinds of ‘rotten jobs’. The relative level of migration has been stable globally for decades, about three per cent of the world's population is a migrant. Immigration levels mainly move with a country's economic growth and labour shortages. The long-term level of refugee migration is actually also stable at about 0.3 per cent of the world's population. It only moves more shock-wise. If a war breaks out, like a decade ago in Syria or recently in Ukraine, there is an occasional large refugee influx. But in the long term, both globally and locally, there is no increase in refugee migration.

In an analysis of policy changes, hardly any differences between right-wing and left-wing governments in immigration policy. Either tough migration talk, as in past elections, is mostly for the stage. During the election campaign, it is then of course attractive for politicians to then start pointing fingers, to claim that the housing crisis is due to migration, the classic scapegoat politics. But migrants and asylum seekers, of course, did not cause this housing crisis. You are not going to solve these kinds of problems by magically making all migrants disappear. That is misguided and just an illusion. Globally, 108.4 million people are fleeing persecution, conflict and violence. 40% of all refugees are minors. The countries hosting the most refugees are Turkey, Iran, Colombia, Germany and Pakistan. 76 % of the world's refugees are hosted in low- and middle-income countries.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Dargo

If this would be the problem, but they are not, certainly not in Europe. The single most important cause of migration is not poverty or misery in origin countries, but the demand for labour. The majority of global migrants are labour migrants. At a time when a country has high labour shortages, as now in Europe, we attract a lot of migrants. These shortages are partly caused by Europeans becoming better and more educated and no longer wanting to do all kinds of ‘rotten jobs’. The relative level of migration has been stable globally for decades, about three per cent of the world's population is a migrant. Immigration levels mainly move with a country's economic growth and labour shortages. The long-term level of refugee migration is actually also stable at about 0.3 per cent of the world's population. It only moves more shock-wise. If a war breaks out, like a decade ago in Syria or recently in Ukraine, there is an occasional large refugee influx. But in the long term, both globally and locally, there is no increase in refugee migration.

In an analysis of policy changes, hardly any differences between right-wing and left-wing governments in immigration policy. Either tough migration talk, as in past elections, is mostly for the stage. During the election campaign, it is then of course attractive for politicians to then start pointing fingers, to claim that the housing crisis is due to migration, the classic scapegoat politics. But migrants and asylum seekers, of course, did not cause this housing crisis. You are not going to solve these kinds of problems by magically making all migrants disappear. That is misguided and just an illusion. Globally, 108.4 million people are fleeing persecution, conflict and violence. 40% of all refugees are minors. The countries hosting the most refugees are Turkey, Iran, Colombia, Germany and Pakistan. 76 % of the world's refugees are hosted in low- and middle-income countries.

I have nowhere said that every immigrants, Refugees and Foreigners should be expelled. Those who are getting a life or try to start a life, shall be welcome and help to do so.

Immigrants, refugees and foreigners who isn't interested in becoming a citizens in their new country, despite getting help to start a new life. They on the other hand should be expelled-Send back to where they came from.

Percentage the unemployment among people from Islamic countries are very high-You can't accuse every bosses for being racist. Mostly it is due to language.

Markus

[Gorpet]

Originally Posted by mapuc

I have nowhere said that every immigrants, Refugees and Foreigners should be expelled. Those who are getting a life or try to start a life, shall be welcome and help to do so.

Immigrants, refugees and foreigners who isn't interested in becoming a citizens in their new country, despite getting help to start a new life. They on the other hand should be expelled-Send back to where they came from.

Percentage the unemployment among people from Islamic countries are very high-You can't accuse every bosses for being racist. Mostly it is due to language.

Markus

I would say at my age 67 .**** let them all in.Yes let's progress into a country where, each state can become a bastion of culture. Bring them in and let's give them Autonomous freedom to have a government within the state they can congregate in and take over.And that will be fine if,they are willing to work and pay their share, Of taxes, and share their daughters .

[QUOTE=Gorpet;2924636]I would say at my age 67 .**** let them all in.Yes let's progress into a country where, each state can become a bastion of culture. Bring them in and let's give them Autonomous freedom to have a government within the state they can congregate in and take over.And that will be fine if,they are willing to work and pay their share, Of taxes, and the rich will share their daughters .

[QUOTE=Gorpet;2924636]I would say at my age 67 .**** let them all in.Yes let's progress into a country where, each state can become a bastion of culture. Bring them in and let's give them Autonomous freedom to have a government within the state they can congregate in and take over.And that will be fine if,they are willing to work and pay their share, Of taxes, and share their daughters . Political pedifile's will always be hovering, If your daughter and son are willing, Oh that's right Bill Clinton, said i did not have sex with your daughter. She just put her lips around my cigar.

[QUOTE=Gorpet;2924636]I would say at my age 67 .**** let them all in.Yes let's progress into a country where, each state can become a bastion of culture. Bring them in and let's give them Autonomous freedom to have a government within the state they can congregate in and take over.And that will be fine if,they are willing to work and pay their share, Of taxes, and the rich will share their daughters . Political pedifile , Ya gotta love it.

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