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Old 10-17-16, 04:06 PM   #2176
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*facepalm*
Yes, that's exactly it. Congratulations, Sherlock.
Just a hint. Not everybody is that shallow and simple minded, you know?
I'm glad that you recognize your personal limitations. You know?
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Old 10-17-16, 04:07 PM   #2177
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I'm glad that you recognize your personal limitations. You know?
Which can't be said about everyone, apparently.
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Old 10-17-16, 04:07 PM   #2178
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If the last defense of freedom is a bunch of old fat guys waving around their AR-15s then freedom is finished.
Well, the fatties will be the first to go of course, because we can't shoot and scoot so well.

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Old 10-17-16, 04:07 PM   #2179
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Local Democratic party started a GoFund Me account to rebuild the Republican Party Headquarters in North Carolina, Those damn liberals
They have already raised enough money to do that too.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...ers/ar-AAj3lYf
Somebody has a guilty conscience i'll bet...
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Old 10-17-16, 04:16 PM   #2180
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Well, the fatties will be the first to go of course, because we can't shoot and scoot so well.

Interesting use of imagery. The American Revolution was, ostensibly at least, about exclusion from the democratic process. Your fanciful new revolution is all about subverting that very process. Curious.
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Old 10-17-16, 04:22 PM   #2181
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Somebody has a guilty conscience i'll bet...
You have no clue who did it either, and how much support did the Republicans give in getting it rebuilt?
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Old 10-17-16, 04:22 PM   #2182
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Mindless parroting
The Democrats did the same thing to John McCain

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016...-donald-trump/
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Old 10-17-16, 04:32 PM   #2183
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You have no clue who did it either, and how much support did the Republicans give in getting it rebuilt?
No I don't know who did it. It wouldn't be the first time somebody did something like that for sympathy. The LGBT community does it all the time.
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/cul...ries-media-ran

But also as far as either of us knows the money from that Gofundme drive was put up by Republicans. Just because the dems started it that doesn't mean they actually contributed any real money to it.
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Old 10-17-16, 04:33 PM   #2184
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In todays primetime news program

I learned that beside, Iraqi, Kurdish and American soldiers who's involved in the ongoing operation Fatah-Liberating Mosul, also Danish forces participates too- They are supporting the assault with 4 F-16 and some special troops(was not being told, but I know they are into it too)

Now that I have learned Denmark is taking part of this operation, I wonder how many more of USA's allied is engaging Daesh from air and or ground

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Old 10-17-16, 04:51 PM   #2185
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Rockstar is the chap who determines whether it's terrorism or not, we should ask him.
I'm not rockstar, but it seems to be pretty cut and dried to me. (at least by Merriam-Webster)

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the use of violent acts to frighten the people in an area as a way of trying to achieve a political goal
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Old 10-17-16, 08:10 PM   #2186
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The Democrats did the same thing to John McCain

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016...-donald-trump/
This parrot has a mind, thank you. Just because it's not very good, doesn't mean it's not there.

All I'm saying though is that if your candidate can be taken down this easily, then perhaps you need a better candidate. I mean, one of the biggest problems with McCain and certainly the thing his campaign is most remembered for is his choice of running mate. Romney was just completely out-maneuvered by Obama but even so he played a good field...Trump has broken the camels back. To be fair, this moment was always coming, the moment that the Republican party either needs to split or rethink its position. I'm not saying this from some kind of ivory tower, British politics since Brexit has undergone a similar process, there's Labour which is in the midst of a very hard shift to the far left which has cause the loss of many supporters and a pretty nasty civil war, there's UKIP which is struggling to find a reason to exist post-Brexit, there's the Lib-Dems which still hasn't recovered after losing the student vote after Nick Clegg sold his soul to David Cameron, and so that leaves the Tories as the only functioning party and even they are still pretty rudderless, at any other time it would be considered a crisis but they're looking strong by the sheer fact that they haven't imploded like all the other parties have.
The Republican party has been facing this crisis since Bush Jr, it's the war between the Conservatives (or Neo-Cons) and the Tea Party element. Sure, the Democrats also have their own little split, but there haven't been the figureheads in them to push open those fault-lines and they've got their guy in office, so they're content to give the nod to the Bernie-bros but just paper over the cracks in order to keep their side in power. Their time will come, probably after the Republicans have undergone their crisis and fielded a candidate that makes it to the White House. Depending on global factors, the aftermath of that might be when the Democrats split between the centrists and the left. Pretty much what has happened to the UKs Labour Party following the collapse of New Labour post-Blair.
I said this after Romney lost, the Republicans need to take the next four years to work out who it is that they're supposed to appeal to. Try to lose that Alt-Right support, the sort of people who create the negative image that Trump has got, stop focusing on the negative of everything and get a more positive outlook. Back when Dubya was around, the worst the Republicans got were that they were Machiavellian oil grabbing shills for big business (kind of like what people are accusing Hillary of being), but now we're got Trump who is tarnishing the party with all kinds of groups and people that you really don't want to be associated with.

Not being funny, but this election was a gift on a silver plate for the Republicans, it was Hillary, one of the most hated women in America, and she took down Grandpa Bernie through dirty means, if the Republicans had had a half-decent candidate he could have absolutely shredded them and perhaps started a civil war in the Democrats between the Hillaries and the Bernies which would have knocked the Dems out of the loop for an election cycle at least, but the GOP screwed it up, they screwed it up good and proper and to blame everyone else for it is just missing the point and missing a very valuable lesson which they need to learn if they're going to stand any hope of getting a good candidate forward for the next election.

Now, we'll see how badly things have gotten when the actual election comes through, it could be that Republican voters actually support half the stuff that Trump is accused of, which is concerning from a moral standpoint but a conversation for another time...but honestly, the GOP could do with a good kicking, so that it can turn to the Tea Party faction and say "Right, you've had your fun and it's killed us, now get lost and form your own party." This would take away a portion of the GOP but I don't think it would kill it, and in time it would heal and become electable again, because out of the four that made it to the final stages of the primaries, I think only Kaisch was the one who hadn't been tainted by the extremism within the party.

I think, in general, in the whole in the world today people need to stop drifting off towards the fringes, to the far left and right and come back into the center, because dangerous things happen out in those fringes and dangerous people can be found there. People who say and do stupid things but in doing so enable those things, encourage those things, which brings out the darkest in humanity. And again, no ivory tower, I have the same concern about British politics, and in particular the flaming garbage pile that is UKIP, which seems to have become a cult of personality around Kim Jong-Nige (and that's a nickname he's got within his own party, by the way).


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I'm not rockstar, but it seems to be pretty cut and dried to me. (at least by Merriam-Webster)
You'd think so, and I'd be inclined to agree...but I've trodden on these landmines before so I'll defer to others.
Either which way, whoever did it is an idiot, no matter what their political beliefs are.
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Old 10-17-16, 09:15 PM   #2187
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Not being funny, but this election was a gift on a silver plate for the Republicans, it was Hillary, one of the most hated women in America, and she took down Grandpa Bernie through dirty means, if the Republicans had had a half-decent candidate he could have absolutely shredded them and perhaps started a civil war in the Democrats between the Hillaries and the Bernies which would have knocked the Dems out of the loop for an election cycle at least, but the GOP screwed it up, they screwed it up good and proper and to blame everyone else for it is just missing the point and missing a very valuable lesson which they need to learn if they're going to stand any hope of getting a good candidate forward for the next election.
You're correct. Hillary Clinton is the weakest presidential candidate, in terms of voter support, that the Democratic Party has nominated since Walter Mondale. While she is not inept or unqualified for the position she is wildly unpopular due in no small part to her notorious corruption. Her personality also renders her highly unlikable. This election should have been a layup for the opposition party.

Fortunately for the powers that be in the Democratic Party, the Republicans have spent the past eight years courting the lunatic fringe in an effort to stay viable in regional elections. They've empowered these people through a series of astroturfed movements, the so-called Tea Party the most famous among them. The result of that had been, up to this point, the removal of more moderate elements within the Republican Party and their replacement by a far more extreme element. With eight years of funding and organization behind them it is little wonder that this portion of the Republican base, roughly 30% of the registered Republican voters, were able to push through the presidential candidate they wanted.

The candidacy Donald J Trump is the Frankenstein's monster that has finally gotten away from the control of its master. Rather than reform the platform to represent a greater portion of the American people, the party bosses doubled down on extremism. Now the extremists have their candidate, and the Republicans are slowly coming to terms with the painful truth that 30% of a party base is not nearly enough to win a national election, even against a candidate as unpopular as Hillary Clinton.
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Old 10-18-16, 05:03 AM   #2188
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Now that I have learned Denmark is taking part of this operation, I wonder how many more of USA's allied is engaging Daesh from air and or ground

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Our national broadcaster Yle reported, that there are forces from 60 countires involved in Mosul operation including from all EU and Nordic countries.

Finnish Army has 100 soldiers attached to Kurdish Peshmerga forces. Half of them form training unit while another half is supporting operations against Daesh (including assault towards Mosul) as advisers. Officially they do not participate in combat, but that maybe merely official position for legal reasons.
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Old 10-18-16, 08:33 AM   #2189
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Shouldn't ^this^ be in the 2016 US Presidential thread and not in the The all purpose terrorism thread, or is this British country bumpkin missing something important?
Agreed, keep the politics in the political threads.

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Russian and Syrian warplanes have suspended air strikes in the Syrian city of Aleppo ahead of a humanitarian pause on Thursday, Russia has said.
Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu said the bombing had been halted early on Tuesday.
Russia had already announced an eight-hour pause between 08:00 (05:00 GMT) and 16:00 on Thursday.
Mr Shoigu urged rebels and civilians in the besieged eastern area of the city to use humanitarian corridors to leave.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-37689063
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Old 10-18-16, 12:01 PM   #2190
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Agreed, keep the politics in the political threads.
The way I see it firebombing a political office is an act of terror according to the definition being floated around here.
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