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08-31-21, 09:45 AM | #2116 | |
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08-31-21, 10:13 AM | #2117 | |
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You also can't deny the impact of the Department of State's ineptitude under the Biden admin - the evacuation was actually their rodeo, supported by military presence. No - the entire Biden administration and the JCS military leadership are a bunch of incompetents more concerned about CYA in the face of their desire for a Sep 11 photo-op going completely pear-shaped. They don't understand the region, the culture, or the enemy. These a$$hole CIA and JCS were trying to teach wokeness and high-tech weapons systems to illiterate Afghan army recruits until just before the cut-and-run. I think we can unequivocally state that even if this would have been chaotic under Trump, it would have been a hell of a lot less chaotic. It would have focused on US citizens first. It wouldn't have ignored actionable intel of an impending suicide bomber. It wouldn't have doubled-down on the stupid by drone-striking non-ISIS Afghans including multiple children burned beyond recognition. It wouldn't have stranded 100s of US citizens. |
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08-31-21, 10:16 AM | #2119 |
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^^ Ok so the Afghan army would have fought bravely if Trump had been president.
The People in Kabul would have behaved orderly not rushing to the airport, trying to hang on the the wheel house a.s.o. If Trump had been the President. No it wouldn't make any different. Markus
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08-31-21, 10:34 AM | #2120 | |
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Under Trump - or *any* competent administration - we would have kept Bagram running, funneled US citizens and vetted Afghans through flights out of there, sent troops to escort them, and destroyed any military material that we weren't going to ship home. Would they have been done by May under Trump? Maybe, maybe not. But he - or *any* competent administration - would have made it clear they were leaving on their timeline and would have a plan to kill every Taliban member who screwed with that process. Volunteer former special forces soldiers should not have to be running rescue missions. They shouldn't also have the US Dept of State telling regional neighbors to not let them land aircraft. Random former military personnel should not have better Intel than the US government. Look, if the Biden admin is incompetent, that's one thing, but they shouldn't also be actively impeding people who can effect a rescue as well. Incompetence can be dealt with. Incompetence and evil, combined? Needs to be nuked from orbit, it's the only way to be sure. |
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08-31-21, 10:42 AM | #2121 | |
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We should have left long ago, long before May 1st, what happens in Afghanistan is up to the Afghans. Our military doesn’t exists to rescue people, build nations or for others to profit from. Get in kill the bad guys then get out, that didn’t happen. “War is a racket”
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08-31-21, 10:45 AM | #2122 |
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^^ Your comment made me remember what a journalist expert on American politics said day before yesterday.
Biden isn't fit for this task. He said a lot more about the Biden administration and Afghanistan But I remember the sentence Biden isn't fit for this task. As I mentioned in a former post American forces is destroying weapons that had been left during withdrawal. This was in a Danish article. I still wonder how they would have solved the chaos at the airport though. Markus
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08-31-21, 11:32 AM | #2123 |
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Well as we know a major part of the chaos around the airport is because it is the only exit portal and that's because Biden and his handlers set it up that way. So while i'm sure a Trump exit plan would have its share of chaos too it would not have been anything like we're seeing with the Democrats in charge.
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08-31-21, 11:57 AM | #2125 | |
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08-31-21, 01:09 PM | #2126 | |
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08-31-21, 03:16 PM | #2127 | |
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08-31-21, 03:30 PM | #2128 | |
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Also, watch how he walks sometimes with his stuttering gait and short steps - classic dementia-sufferer symptom or potentially Parkinson's. Look up the term gait apraxia. I've stated previously *how* to control the chaos. The troops on the ground are generally never the cause of problems - they've always done their jobs. It's a complete failure of leadership that is the problem - when indecisiveness or incompetence are in charge, well, you get what happened here in Kabul. |
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08-31-21, 03:39 PM | #2129 |
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You keep typing 'Biden' then give an in depth description of Trump. But you don't see that, do you?
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Really, really, really
Why do you keep injecting Trump into a discussion about Biden and his actions? Is it because Biden has no defense and so deflection is your pis aller? |
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