How's the hold out crowd holding up?

[Feuer Frei!]

Incredibly, my "anticipation/excitement" has worn off (for the moment anyways)...
i'm havin' a blast at the moment with M.E. 2 and Batman AA.....
now there is 2 awesome games!

[mikeydredd]

Still holdig out...

To me it isn't even holding out anymore. I simply don't want to buy it now.

I've just finished my second playthrough of Mass Effect 2 - absolutely brilliant. THAT is what I call true computer entertainment.

Comparing this with SHV really is chalk and cheese. In every way ME2 is far superior. And you don't need to be Einstein to work out who got my 35 quid.

You don't even need an internet connection to play!! Although if you have one it is used for what it should be - DLC.

All arguing aside UbiSoft should be hanging their heads in shame over this utter farce.

Fork 'em!

Well said Mikeydredd, well said indeed.

[Egan]

Originally Posted by mikeydredd

Still holdig out...

To me it isn't even holding out anymore. I simply don't want to buy it now.

Yeah, I'm in agreement with you there. Hey, I'm not saying I'll never buy it but....not for a while anyway.

To me it isn't even about the DRM issue. I don't agree with it but it's Ubisoft's baby and they can put whatever protection they want on it regardless of whether or not it turns out to be a commercial mistake.

I simply don't fancy a lot of the changes, mainly to the campaign both in form and end date. Maybe it'll be modded to perfection but I'm not holding my breath. Elements of it seem similar to what they originally had slated for SH3 and I didn't fancy that very much. I understand the probable reasons for both campaign changes and the fact we have only one class of boat - even if we have several marks of the Type VII - but I simply disagree with them. The only way I would have been interested is if the boat and it's systems had been modeled to a level not seen since Falcon 4 and, again, I'm not holding my breath for a Type IX or II mod to appear any time soon.

There are changes that I like and I applaud the devs for pushing it in the direction of a command simulator which I've been wanting for years. I just haven't heard enough positive feedback to make me think this is the one, though.

Had it been produced by a smaller publisher and team such as Battlefront or Matrix games I may not have had any problems giving them money for a game I didn't entirely fancy because they make games that I love and I believe that smaller independent publishers should be supported if they make the games you want to play. Ubi are a huge company, though, and I no longer see why I should give them my money when they are not really making games I don't want. Maybe if enough of us decide to keep our wallets closed that will change. If not, never mind: I've got three Combat Missions: NATO expansion, Normandy and Afghanistan, I've got Grigsby's War in Russia and who knows what else to look forward to this year. I'm sure I'll cope.

[JetSnake]

Haven't bought it. Won't buy it. I read this forum to see if DRM has either been cracked or dealt with via patch. Could be I just don't have the passion for sub games or games in general anymore. Too much bs with this title for me to want to deal with its enormous shortcomings.

[Commie]

Originally Posted by Egan

I've got Grigsby's War in Russia and who knows what else to look forward to this year. I'm sure I'll cope.

Grigsby is remaking War in Russia??? Holy Sh__! It's first iteration 'Second Front' was my first and for a long time my favourite wargame!

[Egan]

Originally Posted by Commie

Grigsby is remaking War in Russia??? Holy Sh__! It's first iteration 'Second Front' was my first and for a long time my favourite wargame!

Yep....and it's looking sweet! hopefully be out by the summer.

Check it out over at the Matrix Games forum!

Should point out that the new title is actually 'War in the East' rather than 'War in Russia' My bad - but it's kind of an easy mistake to make! It's still a remake AFAIK.

I'm currrently addicted to another Grigsby game - War in the Pacific: Admirals edition. It's one of the best games I've ever played. I put of playing it for years because of the complexity and the price but I'm so glad I bought it. It's going to be on my hard drive for years.

[weeksatsea]

That's the thing , there are other games.

I think this release has bounced a lot of people off sub simming ,sadly.

[Commie]

Originally Posted by Egan

Yep....and it's looking sweet! hopefully be out by the summer.

Check it out over at the Matrix Games forum!

Should point out that the new title is actually 'War in the East' rather than 'War in Russia' My bad - but it's kind of an easy mistake to make! It's still a remake AFAIK.

I'm currrently addicted to another Grigsby game - War in the Pacific: Admirals edition. It's one of the best games I've ever played. I put of playing it for years because of the complexity and the price but I'm so glad I bought it. It's going to be on my hard drive for years.

Lot's of great stuff by Grigsby and Koger and others, I just don't have the time anymore to sit down and really get into a good wargame what with looking after a 3 year old. SIGH. World at War is about as complex as I have time for these days, not even EU or HOI anymore.

[Dutch]

Holding strong and will continue to hold strong until UBI or Pirates release a no DRM patch.

If UBI does it I will buy it, if the pirates do it I will buy it and then use their DRM patch legal or not.

My router likes to remind me who is really in charge every 5-10 minutes by dropping connection from anywhere to 5 seconds to 5 minutes and I will not have a game that I legitimately purchased when and when I can not play it.

[theluckyone17]

Originally Posted by Dutch

My router likes to remind me who is really in charge every 5-10 minutes by dropping connection from anywhere to 5 seconds to 5 minutes...

DRM or not, it might be time to get a new router. Then I'd use a good three pound hammer to show the old router who's in charge .

Oh yeah... still haven't bought it. Modding Oblivion has got my attention for now.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Dutch

My router likes to remind me who is really in charge every 5-10 minutes by dropping connection from anywhere to 5 seconds to 5 minutes and I will not have a game that I legitimately purchased when and when I can not play it.

Yeah? Sounds like your internet service provider is screwing you. Are you going to take that? You going to let them dictate when you can be online? Yes, I think you will.

[BlackSpot]

"How's the hold out crowd holding up" ? Is this a minority-group hug?
Please... get grip.

[theluckyone17]

Originally Posted by BlackSpot

"How's the hold out crowd holding up" ? Is this a minority-group hug?
Please... get grip.

Back when the DRM was announced, I remember a few statements regarding how many folk protesting OSP would end up buying it anyway. For those of us who are still holding out, this thread allows us to announce it.

A short time ago, a few members complained about the prevalence of anti-DRM statements throughout the forum. They wanted a neat thread where we could complain, and they wouldn't have to read it. Well, guess what? Here's the thread.

So don't trivialize us or our statements.

[Onkel Neal]

Fair enough