Expelled student armed with assault rifle slaughters 17 at Florida high school

[vienna]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Maybe the Shifff Minion and his sycophant sidekick could find a forum that actually has Trump minions to troll. Psychologically and behaviorally you're exactly alike. The only noticeable difference really is you are polar opposites ideologically. They are out there you know, I just don't think you'll find them here. Here you guys are like watching some crazy dude having a contentious argument with a brick wall.

Looks like a nerve has been touched...

You know, instead of continually making personal attacks against other forum member when their views don't agree with yours and are actually making cogent arguments, and you find them so distressing, there is the option to exclude those posts from those individuals by changing your settings. That's what I would do if I were as worked up as you seem to be...

I'm sure you will respond with another one of your 'drive-by', 'fortune cookie' style, and length, responses...










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[Rockstar]

Nerves? Not in the slightest. Just observation and recommendation in general that minions need each other to justify their own existence. But you don't have to do a dang thing. Keep right on doing what your doing if you want, I wont lose any sleep over it.

[vienna]

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[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Maybe the Shifff Minion and his sycophant sidekick could find a forum that actually has Trump minions to troll. Psychologically and behaviorally you're exactly alike. The only noticeable difference really is you are polar opposites ideologically. They are out there you know, I just don't think you'll find them here. Here you guys are like watching some crazy dude having a contentious argument with a brick wall.

Quoted for prosperity posterity.

[Jimbuna]

Cool heads everyone if you'd be so kind.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Cool heads everyone if you'd be so kind.

[Onkel Neal]

"She was a nice person," her brother said.

"I mean maybe not today, but she never hurt any creature."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/family-alle...ry?id=54224487

The latest nutjob on a shooting spree. This time a woman, possibly, and even a vegan. Lookout world.

[MaDef]

not surprising, California is full of fruits,nuts & flakes.

[Buddahaid]

Unlike some other states that are just full of horses asses.

[Onkel Neal]

Yeah, you have to wonder about these left wing types who are shrieking about all the PC agenda items, including animal cruelty, human rights, gun control. And then they go out on a shooting spree.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/04/...ry-at-company/

[em2nought]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Yeah, you have to wonder about these left wing types who are shrieking about all the PC agenda items, including animal cruelty, human rights, gun control. And then they go out on a shooting spree.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/04/...ry-at-company/

I think it's a two for the price of one thing. Dealing a blow against the 2nd amendment, and a blow against the people who've triggered your "special" self with one "shot" as it were. Maybe a three for the price of one because you get to do it while your perceived Antichrist is President too. Knowing that the fake news is going to blame him somehow.

[l02turner]

Sorry I am coming to this thread late (and by accident) I wanted to comment on a few things. First, the gun used was a shotgun, not normally described as a "Assault Rifle" which is an ambiguous term anyway.
2nd, none of the billionaires, corporations, celebrities, politicians, etc who jump immediately to calling for the banning of all guns as the only answer, have contributed to hardening the schools. There is only one group (the NRA) who are offering a comprehensive solution (free of charge to the schools btw) called "NRA School Shield" which paid for by contributions from NRA members, donors and foundations. School Shield consists of various components such as Preparedness, Prevention, Mitigation and Response among other things. But this isn't the place to go into the program. If interested, the NRA website will provide more info.
As far as the US seeking to ban guns, please be aware that any law attempting to do this will be ignored by those who need to be disarmed the most; Criminals. Criminals by definition do not obey laws and passing another anti-gun bill (we already have over 22,000 laws limiting the purchase & use of guns) only disarms those who the gun defends the best. Think of it this way, this isn't about guns as much as it is about self defense, a concept that goes back to when there were 2 humans and one was determined to do the other harm. It is a God given right to defend ourselves IMO and a gun allows those who are is too weak, outnumbered, etc to defend against those who wish to do them harm. For instance, I am disabled and spend much of my time in a wheelchair or using a walker to get around. I am what some might consider an "Easy Target". Well, this Target will not go easily. I train weekly at the range, know how to analyze a potential threat and will shoot if need be to stop an assault on me, my family or friends.
'nuff said...
As far as the shooter that had known mental and other problems, he had been identified to the police and FBI previously as someone who would likely shoot up the school in the near future and yet no one did enough to stop him. That's the sad part.
You are 100% correct that our kids must learn how to defend against such threats as they face today, but it's better than telling them to hide under a desk and hope they won't get shot. BTW, when I was in elem school we were taught how to prepare for a nuclear attack using tactics that would have helped little if at all. I guess preparing for a disaster is something we have to accept?
BTW, someone asked why Assault Rifles are sold? Because the term Assault Rifle is a term used by those wishing to ban all guns use to describe a semi-automatic rifle or shotgun. Yes, they do want to ban ALL guns, assault rifles are just the start. Semi autos have been in use since the early 20th Century. I assume you are talking about an AR15? It's a Semi auto just like the shotgun my grandfather passed down. And the AR is the most popular rifle in use today. It has been sold in the millions and I wish the background system were perfect but it's not, I wish we could prevent those with mental problems from obtaining firearms but it's not and won't be because of security issues surrounding the release of everyone's health records. But more govt access into the lives of the innocent isn't the answer.
Also, there are school shootings in other parts of the world that go on today. And in those places where guns bans are in place, the criminals still have guns. Thankfully, as horrific as school shootings are, they are incredibly rare which I know is little comfort if one of your kids were killed...
LarryT

Originally Posted by Commander Wallace

Looking at the reply's here, Catfish makes some good points. Maybe it's time to see how Germany, the U.K and others deal with things to keep their kids safe. It has been reported by the news media that along with fire drills, students now have armed intruder drills as well. It's a sad statement that along with learning algebra and chemistry, students must now learn how to survive in the face of crazed individuals who are armed and invading their school.

My question is why were the entry ways not secure ? There should be one or perhaps two entry points equipped with metal detectors and perhaps armed operators. Doors could also be equipped with remote locking mechanisms and have LEO personnel on speed dial. There is no way an armed individual with known disciplinary problems should have been able to gain access to that school.

In light of what Jim had said about the number of shootings and their prevalence, it's criminal negligence not to have safe guards like these and more in place to protect our kids. Especially considering how often this is happening now.

[Delgard]

Just 2 cents... European countries have a different culture about guns. It is their culture and we (United States) have a different one.

The American culture has always seen the personal need for guns; hunting, personal protection, defense against an unjust/illegal authority. That last one may be a doosie, but it is there.

What America had more of in the ages past was individual responsibility, parental responsibility, family responsibility and, even neighborly responsibility. Large parts of American society have lost the value of those responsibilities.

If something makes those responsibilities stronger, I am for it...even for myself.

Are there examples of some of those responsibilities and why? I'll start:

- Never to have unsecured weapons in the home. It can lead to someone getting hurt that the law-abiding responsible owner believes is illegal and morally wrong.

[l02turner]

Agree completely! BTW, the liberals are always going on about how we should respect and preserve other people cultures but I never hear anyone standing up for Our American Culture. Of course the left, the media, main stream news and Hollywood would never dream there is a American Culture worth preserving.

[mapuc]

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Innocent civilians suffer

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