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06-04-20, 11:06 AM | #181 | |
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This the same Tom Cotton who was passed over by Trump two (2) times as Secretary Of Defense (instead, the job went Mattis first, then Esper) and once as Secretary Of State (job went to Pompeo)? Is it a coincidence Cotton's glowing support of Trump suddenly pops up now that Defense Secretary Esper appears to be on shaky ground for publicly opposing Trump, and the job Cotton was passed over for twice may again be open..?... Just saying... <O>
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06-04-20, 11:14 AM | #182 |
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My dad came up to us- my brothers, my mom, and I- yesterday while eating dinner and he said to all of us at the dinner table, "Kids, what we are going through is a historic time for both the US and the world. Coronavirus is affecting the whole world at this moment and something like this has not happened since the Spanish Flu Outbreak. We have not seen anything like this on this scale for a while. In our country, people are wanting (now this is what he said, not sure if it lines up with your guy's opinions) "Police brutality to stop" and "Black people to be treated better". This is like the 1960s all over again which your grandparents are going through again. This is a historic time for us."
I'm pretty sure he was making that up in his mind while he was working. At the dinner table, we got into a conversation over the stuff happening in this world. I cannot wait for these times to end and life to get back to normal. Wishing that every member here on Subsim stays well and safe! Maintain your silent run!
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06-04-20, 11:45 AM | #183 | |
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06-04-20, 11:45 AM | #184 |
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@ Platapus
Thank you for your answer to my question. Did it answer my question ? To be honest, not quite, there were some words or sentence in those quotes you posted I really couldn't get the hang of. Your answer also made me remember a very old issue on Danish news program which was exactly in the evening on Tuesday 15 April 1986. It was the main story in the news this day and following days. I remember some of what this Danish journalist said to us the viewer. From memory "An American president has the authority to give an order of attack to his military forces anywhere in the world. He must, however, notify the speaker of the house. The president is not without responsibility. Also remember that he (the journalist) was asked if the President also had the power to declare war on another country. Here was the answer: No, the president cannot do this, it's only the Congress who has to power to do so." Markus Last edited by mapuc; 06-04-20 at 11:55 AM. |
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Here I agree with you. Anyone who opposes Trump will most likely be relieved of their job etc. Kinda like a dictator! If you want a job that you've been wanting for a long time, you might also wanna start supporting or praising the person who controls who gets that job. Quote:
Man, I wish that FDR was president at this time.
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06-04-20, 01:36 PM | #186 |
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How would you kick him out of office?
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06-04-20, 02:18 PM | #187 |
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By reading Platapus splendid explanation on how the machinery runs in the White House.
There's only three way a President can be removed from Oval Office 1. Through election 2. Through an impeachment. 3. Through Political steeps where the Vice President is part of it. There could be some other peaceful option I may have missed. Then there is an option I don't like to even think of. Markus |
06-04-20, 02:37 PM | #188 | |
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Number two has been tried and it failed spectacularly. Number three is highly unlikely unless Trump strangles Nancy Pelosi. I would suggest a bribe. It can't hurt to try.
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06-04-20, 03:25 PM | #189 | ||
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A very compelling and detailed essay on Trump's threats to use military power to quell civil unrest and the negative implications and ill-effects of such a course of action on American democracy; the author is Retired US Marine Corps Four Star General John R. Allen, a distinguished military leader and noted and respected authority on Governance, Foreign and Domestic Policy; he is also, currently, the President of the Brookings Institution, a highly regarded 'think tank' considered to be the finest organization of its kind in the US and, perhaps, in the world, and which has had its findings and opinions cited by political leaders of all parties and/or political bent; it is a non-partisan institution and is widely viewed as a centrist organization...
Here is USMC General Allen's analysis of Trump's action's as posted on the Foreign Policy Magazine's website: A Moment of National Shame and Peril—and Hope We may be witnessing the beginning of the end of American democracy, but there is still a way to stop the descent. -- https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/06/03...loyd-protests/ Quote:
I know some will knee-jerk when they see the word "illiberalism" used in the very first sentence of the piece and go into Pampers-filling near-apoplexy, but here is an actual definition, as it appears in Wikipedia, of the word as used in the context of an "illiberal democracy": Quote:
Maybe his comments would be easier to take if he were someone brown-nosing to get a job... <O>
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06-04-20, 04:01 PM | #190 |
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You're such a one trick pony. Whats yours and the generals opinion of all the other presidents in American history which used military to quell looting, riots and help bring about order? What's the difference between what the current president seeks and those presidents which authorized such action in 1967 and 1992? Why all of a sudden this aversion to restoring order? You can still allow the peaceful protests to continue as in fact many are peaceful. Its the agent provocateur, numbskulls, and criminals using chaos to take advantage of the situation that need to stopped.
When I watch the SpaceX lift-off. Trump spoke of wanting exactly that, to stop the looting and lawlessness. But allow the process of peaceful protest and bring order out this chaos. But because of pin headed party fanboy points of views and divisiveness of current politics it now something which isn't allowed? Peoples businesses are being ruined and lives destroyed and you are saying its OK because some general said?
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06-04-20, 04:06 PM | #191 | |
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Friends who blame Trump for this problem and only him. Well voters short time memory haven't been that great. This problem with all these demonstration and riot is not a problem who started right after Trump was elected. No it's a problem who have been subdued for years if not decades. Which voters seems to forget. Blame your politicians not only Mr Trump, but everyone of your elected should be blamed for this or these problems (This is how I see it) Markus |
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06-04-20, 04:30 PM | #192 | |
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Anyone else notice these suspects look white, Asian, and black ? I've been hearing this incident was racially motivated. I'm confused. |
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06-04-20, 05:03 PM | #193 |
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^ Probably because the main instigator in this incident is Derek Chauvin, who is white. The other 3 have been charged with aiding and abetting . It remains to be seen if in fact this was racially motivated murder. More likely is that Chauvin was a loose canon as evidenced by the many complaints against him.
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06-04-20, 05:38 PM | #194 |
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Can race have something to do with such treatment we saw? Yes, but personally I think playing that card every time something like this takes place removes the focus off of what I think is a more prevalent problem. That is law enforcement has for sometime now looked at those they are supposed to serve and protect as an enemy. As well as the obviously apparent attitude of being more interested in protecting each by looking the way rather than speaking up to say: "hey partner what you are doing is wrong so get off the guys freaking neck."
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06-04-20, 06:07 PM | #195 | |
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Some of my friends are sharing a story about a young man named Tony.
During his arrest he was treated badly by the police who even mocked him. This caused no demonstration or riots. Here is more on this story Quote:
If I was an American I would hold my elected politician accountable because the George Floyd case is not the only one. Markus |
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