The all purpose terrorism thread featuring plenty of allah akbar

[kraznyi_oktjabr]

@Von Due

Very valid criticism. There has been cases where immigrants have not been allowed to take their elderly (grand)parents with them, even when they have promised to cover all expenses. That runs quite badly against my own values (except for his last two months spent in medical care my late grandpa lived at his own home with our assistance), but unfortunately wording of law in question is very tight in it's definition of "core family" (parents and their underaged children). Until this "immigration crisis" is somehow solved it is very hard to find political support for rectifying the problem.

Wage inequality is persistent problem here and nobody seems to viable plan to correct it. Although lot is done this isn't perfect country and that is certainly good to keep in mind.

[mapuc]

I will share with you a story I was told in real life

My former brother-in-law was visiting my sister(his former wife) he had a friend with him

Here are what this friend told me-He was from Syria

-Do you think that every person who takes the trip to Syria is doing this to get a chance to fight for Daesh or other terror groups

I said yes

Then you and many more are wrong-Many take the trip to fight for the Free Syrian Army-most of them do however end in one of the terror groups and the reason is very simpel.

Even though we are in desperat need of personal most infantry, we are not deviating from the rules that the person who want to fight along others in the Free Syrian Army, have fulfilled his military training in either in the country where he comes from or in the country he fled from.

When they then hear
Sorry no military training -no fighting, but we need people working behind "the scene" making food, give help to wounded soldies and so on.

This person who are standing in front of the officer and hear this, get sad, ´cause he was looking forward to an adventure not working as a chef or a nurse, so he leave.
Before the day is over this person has very likely found a terror group that is more than happy to lender him a weapon so he can fight for their "case"

I don't know how much of this is true-maybe it's nothing more than a little fairy tale.

Markus

[Von Due]

@mapuc

I have no trouble thinking that is reality. Remember the Spanish civil war and how people, many not even Spanish, went there to fight, and not all fought on the same side. I see it as the same thing happening here. Only difference is, as you said, here they are told they can't do what they went there for so they find a way to do it.

[Oberon]

Looks like the leader of the CHP Kemalist party in Turkey just survived an assassination attempt, at least that seems to be what I can make out from bing translation on twitter.

[Von Due]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Looks like the leader of the CHP Kemalist party in Turkey just survived an assassination attempt, at least that seems to be what I can make out from bing translation on twitter.

Nothing I could find in international news but the search for CHP and suikast (assassination) gave a bunch of hits of recent posts in Turkish. Seeing CHP is the main opposition in the parliament, it will be interesting to learn more.

[Catfish]

It is alway astonishing, how deeply democratic and dependable ally Mr. Erdoghan is.

I think all turks demonstrating for Mr. Erdoghan here in Germany, should instantly be forced to leave the country, and experience new turkish democracy the hard way.

[Von Due]

Some interesting view points from the Bar-Ilan University in Israel:

http://besacenter.org/perspectives-p...tegic-mistake/

which wasn't lost on Iranian news.
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13950604000243

[eddie]

Syrian pilots better start checking their "six" a bit more often,lol Having an F-22 on your tail without knowing it can be dangerous to your health!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/w...nter/89258646/

Originally Posted by Catfish

It is alway astonishing, how deeply democratic and dependable ally Mr. Erdoghan is.

I think all turks demonstrating for Mr. Erdoghan here in Germany, should instantly be forced to leave the country, and experience new turkish democracy the hard way.

I agree, but it's not possible because "human rights" etc. etc.
However, if things in Turkey would deteriorate even more, so we could finally and officially speak about a dicatorship, then... who knows, things might be different, "legally".
However, considering the pussification of our government and the severe load of Gutmenschen who tend to give the wrong people the fifth chance and still don't understand what's happening, I doubt it.

Be that as it may, I gotta say I am actually deeply surprised and very disappointed by the Turks for not doing anything against this while they still have a chance. Probably easy to say, but... I don't know. How can they just sit and watch, or worse, how can they support this despot?!

I always thought from all Muslim countries, Turkey, or the Turks, are the most civil and advanced and most liberal. Now they establish a dictatorship.
This is sad to witness.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by eddie

Syrian pilots better start checking their "six" a bit more often,lol Having an F-22 on your tail without knowing it can be dangerous to your health!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/w...nter/89258646/

I'd be a little more concerned should an air engagement come about with Russian aircraft.

[eddie]

Yes Jim, one mistake by either side in this game could be dangerous, whether Russian or Syrian. Seems the Iranians are playing a dangerous game too. Four of their speed boats ran an intercept of an American destroyer and came within 300 meters of it before turning away.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/...igJ?li=BBnbfcL

Second time they pulled this crap, warning shots were fired at them. Keep pushing Iran, just keep pushing the envelope and the response they get will not be to their liking.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/...FqN?li=BBnb7Kz

[Jimbuna]

Rgr that Eddie

A pity I can't get the video footage to play from that first link.

[eddie]

Hope this one works Jim. They say the Iranians weapons were uncovered, that's asking for it!

https://news.usni.org/2016/08/24/vid...n-patrol-boats

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I'd be a little more concerned should an air engagement come about with Russian aircraft.

Another "mishap" could be a air engagement between a Turkish fighter jet attacking Kurds and a American defending them

I see this as a very unlikely scenario, however it is possible.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by eddie

Hope this one works Jim. They say the Iranians weapons were uncovered, that's asking for it!

https://news.usni.org/2016/08/24/vid...n-patrol-boats

Thank you sir, that link works fine

The quote below sums it all up for me. Take one of the arrogant buggas out and see if their mates still feel brave (or perhaps stupid) enough to keep on playing these dangerous games.

“The Nitze and U.S. Naval Forces Central Command (NAVCENT) assessed the interaction as unsafe and unprofessional due to the Iranian vessels not abiding by international law and maritime standards including the 1972 Convention on the International Regulations for Preventing Collisions at Sea (COLREGS) maritime ‘Rules of the Road’,” a defense official told USNI News.
“The Iranian high rate of closure on a Unites States ship operating in accordance with international law while transiting in international waters along with the disregard of multiple warning attempts created a dangerous, harassing situation that could have led to further escalation including additional defensive measures by Nitze.”