US Politics Thread 2016-2020

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by ikalugin

I mean that sort of thing happened with Obama and Bush and Clinton, but this time it was pretty damn quick.

Give Trump a break and realize how many people are mad and angry at this rich POTUS.

The DNC
The CIA
The NSA
The FBI
The news media including non main stream news media
Pro choice
Education and welfare
The Muslim's on restricted access to the USA list
The Red Chinese and the blue Chinese too

even Mitch McConnell, Senate majority leader for the GOP is fed up with Trump and said,
"I didn't think President Trump had a chance in hell of winning."

I can't think of any others

[Bilge_Rat]

..so how does all this end? with President Mike Pence?

I don't mind, he is a lot more conservative than Trump.

[ikalugin]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

..so how does all this end? with President Mike Pence?

I don't mind, he is a lot more conservative than Trump.

Pence is the faildeadly if you know what I mean.

[Rockin Robbins]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

Remember in the bible when the big storm came up on the Med when Jonah was trying to run away from God's orders to go to Nineveh and the fisherman threw Jonah overboard to save the boat?

I think that's what happen

but in this case the storm is not over yet and more fishermen might be thrown in

And remember that the non-elected government is full of people appointed by past administrations, who continue in their rolls of working for who appointed them regardless of the present administration. This has been true forever. It is a practical impossibility to routinely fire everybody, hundreds of thousands of people in all government agencies, to replace them with those loyal to the present administration.

That used to be done you know. It was so inefficient, jobs ceased to be done, administrations were bogged down with the task of completely replacing the entire civil service. Naturally, that could not be done with any degree of competence and the impossible job kept those administrations from accomplishing anything until the civil service jobs were filled. The new system is better, but does result in the equivalent of moles riddled throughout every function of government, sabotaging those things they don't like, or in the case of certain Justice Department lawyers, incompetently pleading the case of Trump's travel moratorium.

A result of the "professionalism" of the Civil Service has been that they do not work for the President. There are positives and negatives associated with that fact. One of the negatives is that they are not in the confidence of the president, nor are they necessarily working for his aims. Hold it! That could also be a positive.....

[Skybird]

Latest fake news says US inflation has climbed to 2.1% - and it seems it does not want to stop there. Trump is said to currently compose a new Twittercalypse against the Fed. Reason is not the expected raises of interest rates that torpedoes Trump's announced spending orgy, but that Yellen refuses to wear Ivanka's collection.

[Bilge_Rat]

I just watched the press conference of Trump and Netenyahu.

Trump is a quick learner, his responses are more polished, more presidential. He veered away from any obvious mine fields.

More importantly, he has stopped waving his hands so much, looks a lot more presidential.

I had also watched the press conference with PM Trudeau.

Unlike his very first press conference which was a circus, only a few questions are allowed and only pre-picked reporters ask question, Trump picked two reporters, one from a Christian network, one from TownHall, two friendly, conservative media outlets.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

And Oberon, you're smart enough to know this because your "analogy" was purposeful distortion and distraction, but for the benefit of others, there is a very large difference between saying an effective person has a chaotic management style and saying that every person with a chaotic management style is effective, even your hero.

This is crediting Trump with effectiveness that remains to be fully proven, bearing in mind this is a guy who declared bankruptcy four times and still refuses to release his tax details. So far the chaos in the White House has yet to have any real noticable beneficial effects, rather it seems to undermine him at every turn by providing his enemies with plentiful ammunition to use against him. His twitter account alone is a goldmine of stuff for pundits, analysts and political opponents. Trump is not so much shooting himself in the foot, he's getting an assault rifle, putting it on full-auto and unloading on his foot.
His management style is not improving his administration it is undermining it.


Still...it was nice of him to effectively confirm the veracity of the 'leaks' that the media has been reporting on.

Originally Posted by The Donald

The real scandal here is that classified information is illegally given out by "intelligence" like candy. Very un-American!

[Bilge_Rat]

now for real news, Retail CEOs meeting with POTUS have nothing but praise for him:




meanwhile the "mainstream" press are off with their Russian fairy tale.

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

..so how does all this end? with President Mike Pence? [...]

If someone had told me some decades ago, that Donald and Mickey would once reign the USA.. even Disney would be stunned.

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

meanwhile the "mainstream" press are off with their Russian fairy tale.

The news media is turning this nation into preppers ...
I don't want to be a prepper ... I want to be a survivor

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

The news media is turning this nation into preppers ...
I don't want to be a prepper ... I want to be a survivor

Well, I hear NASA are being asked to investigate making the first SLS-1 launch a crewed one rather than going with the traditional un-manned launch first. So there's that option, providing it doesn't explode.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

No, Trump is nowhere near the most maligned president in history. Abraham Lincoln was, by a country mile. The things that were told against Lincoln made everyone's treatment of Trump look polite.

There's a lesson there too.

When anyone says that a recent president is the worst we have ever had, I just suggest they do some reading on the 19th century and the presidents we had back then. The ones we have today, may not be the best, but hardly the worse.

[Skybird]

Designated labor secretary throws the towel.

[Platapus]

We survived Bush, we survived Obama, I am sure we can survive Trump. I have to believe that our country is stronger than any one person.

[eddie]

Originally Posted by Platapus

When anyone says that a recent president is the worst we have ever had, I just suggest they do some reading on the 19th century and the presidents we had back then. The ones we have today, may not be the best, but hardly the worse.

That's right, just look at Grants presidency,lol