(REL) Pacific enviroment/ROW/Leovampire and Kriller2

[GOZO]

Originally Posted by Fish40

Thanks for the heads up SwDw. I was in no way, shape, or form trying to waste Dave's time. The only thing was that up until I installed the vs4 Objects reflection, all was working as advertised. I reverted back to vs2 as others have done, and the problem is gone.

I'm looking forwards to useing the RFB for ROW. I'm happy you're continueing along with the project, and good luck with it. I was a fan when it was RUB!

I am using TM 1.6.5 and according to the creators it is important to install thing in the correct order.

ROW Objects Reflections
ROW Ship Reflections
ROW SUB Reflections
ROW Textures
ROW Classic Sea Foam
REL_Trigger_Maru_GFX_PAK_2_2
REL_Trigger_Maru_1-6-5

What I did was installing one ROW at the time and run TM. What I found was that Object reflections vs_4 being the only one creating this rolling DC phenomena.

I will now make a new install with all ROW but use only Object Refl vs_2 and see what happens.

(Interresting to see what really causes this glitch )

Regards

/Per

[BaronDeKalb]

Originally Posted by Trickyfish

I am getting the depth charge continous drop animation as well. I am using only ROW mods. I tried uninstalling all the ROW mods and the depth charge racks animated normally.
I am not using the depth charge shake mod.
What do you guys use to post screencaptures of your JGSME screen?

Leo, I love your mods. The game looks worlds better with your water effects. I'm just trying to give you all the info I can so you can work your magic.

Trickyfish

I got my game sorted with the new updates posted the ones that have the 11/19 date, about the screen-capture, GMEE V2.0.1.102 has a option in the tasks button
to "Export activated mods list" click on this to create a text file of your activated
mods then click ok to see them. Then you can just paste them as text rather than
a big screen print.

Here are the ones im running now, and i have no problems, Thanks Leo and thanks
about the interior info i havnt found my bed yet but im sure i will soon enough :P

betterrecognitionmanualv1
Hull_Classification_Symbos
Orders_Bar_AI1_Classic
PULL DOWN PACIFIC MAP 1.4
REAL_MEDALS_CLASSIC_CREW_2
ROW Main Load Screen
ROW NEW SeaFoam from Jaketoox
ROW_Camera_vs_2b
ROW_Classic_Clouds
ROW_Objects_Reflections_v4
ROW_Ship_Reflections_vs_2
ROW_Sky_and_Ocean_controls
ROW_sound_effects_add_on
ROW_Sound_Effects_vs_5_Fial
ROW_Special_Effects_with_2
ROW_Sub_Reflections_and_Rod
ROW_Textures_without_Sun__4
Taihosan_Maru_CTD_Fix_2.0

[DrBeast]

Gentlemen, the culprit is found and is awaiting interrogation! I suspected it was one of the guns.xxx files found in Data\Library\ShipParts, and I was right. The culprit is guns_radars.sim from ROW Objects v.4. I opened up that file and the one from RSRDC and found, to my astonishment, that a whole slew of information for DCRacks and KGuns is actually missing from the ROW Objects guns_radar.sim file! By replacing the ROW file with the RSRDC one, the anomaly stopped, and I got the living daylights DCed off my poor boat (for such testing purposes, I use a Titanium-hulled Balao with Mithril parts...no fleet boats or crew members were harmed during the process, but it was a jumpy ride!). Leo, check it out for yourself

[Bill Nichols]

Ahah! Vindicated!!!

[panthercules]

Originally Posted by DrBeast

Gentlemen, the culprit is found and is awaiting interrogation! I suspected it was one of the guns.xxx files found in Data\Library\ShipParts, and I was right. The culprit is guns.sim from ROW Objects v.4.

You mention above that the culprit is "guns.sim, but your screenshots refer to a different file - "guns_radars.sim" - took me a while to figure out how come my guns.sim file's parent node 66 didn't even mention DC racks. You might want to edit your post to save some other folks from the same confusion I fell into.

Interesting find though - I guess I hadn't encountered this phenomenon since I installed RSRD after ROW, as swdw suggested in his RFB for ROW thread, so I wound up with the RSRD version of this guns_radars.sim file. It does make me wonder now that I think about it though - what am I missing from ROW by letting RSRD over-write this file?

[lurker_hlb3]

Originally Posted by DrBeast

Gentlemen, the culprit is found and is awaiting interrogation! I suspected it was one of the guns.xxx files found in Data\Library\ShipParts, and I was right. The culprit is guns.sim from ROW Objects v.4. I opened up that file and the one from RSRDC and found, to my astonishment, that a whole slew of information for DCRacks and KGuns is actually missing from the ROW Objects guns.sim file! By replacing the ROW file with the RSRDC one, the anomaly stopped, and I got the living daylights DCed off my poor boat (for such testing purposes, I use a Titanium-hulled Balao with Mithril parts...no fleet boats or crew members were harmed during the process, but it was a jumpy ride!). Leo, check it out for yourself

Ok

Whats the problem ????

What is RSRDC doing that causing you such a BIG problem

[lurker_hlb3]

Originally Posted by panthercules

You mention above that the culprit is "guns.sim, but your screenshots refer to a different file - "guns_radars.sim" - took me a while to figure out how come my guns.sim file's parent node 66 didn't even mention DC racks. You might want to edit your post to save some other folks from the same confusion I fell into.

Interesting find though - I guess I hadn't encountered this phenomenon since I installed RSRD after ROW, as swdw suggested in his RFB for ROW thread, so I wound up with the RSRD version of this guns_radars.sim file. It does make me wonder now that I think about it though - what am I missing from ROW by letting RSRD over-write this file?

Same comment

Whats the Problem that RSRDC is causing ???????????

[panthercules]

Originally Posted by lurker_hlb3

Ok

Whats the problem ????

What is RSRDC doing that guessing you such a BIG problem

@Lurker - I don't think he's saying that RSRDC is causing a problem - I think he's saying that it's the ROW file that he thinks is causing the problem (the cycling DC racks issue). I think he's just pointing out that the ROW file seems to be missing some of the information/settings that the RSRDC file contains, and suggesting that maybe this absence is an indication of what might be wrong with the ROW file in question.

I hope the problem is found. Can someone make a patch for it? don't know how to edit a file with the sim extension. Do I need a special editor? OR is there going to be a patch? I hope there will be. At the moment I'll survive of course. :p Aniuk

[ryanwigginton]

Funny... my JSGME setup is at the top of page 88.

I have TM, RSRD, NSM, ROW in that order and no depth charge problems... I'm on my second patrol.

EDIT: My mistake, must be the NSM that saved me.

[Fish40]

Originally Posted by ryanwigginton

Funny... my JSGME setup is at the top of page 88.

I have TM, RSRD, NSM, ROW in that order and no depth charge problems... I'm on my second patrol.

EDIT: My mistake, must be the NSM that saved me.

I'm also useing NSM and still had the problem until I reverted back to Objects vs2. I think it's the RSRD that saved you. If you look at the screenies that Dr. Beast presented, you will see that he uncovered the fact that ROW is missing some file info that is contained in the RSRDC. The way it looks, if you use ROW without RSRDC, such as myself, you miss certain files that cause the Depthcharge anomoly.

As soon as I finish my current patrol, I plan on ending my current career and starting fresh with RFB for ROW, as well as RSRDC.

[Fish40]

Just a quick question here. The way it is now, NSM needs to be installed befor ROW, if we want the "zones" changes that ROW offers. So would this be correct?

1. Install NSM
2. Install ROW
3. Install RFB for ROW
4. Install RSRDC

[ryanwigginton]

Originally Posted by Fish40

I'm also useing NSM and still had the problem until I reverted back to Objects vs2. I think it's the RSRD that saved you. If you look at the screenies that Dr. Beast presented, you will see that he uncovered the fact that ROW is missing some file info that is contained in the RSRDC. The way it looks, if you use ROW without RSRDC, such as myself, you miss certain files that cause the Depthcharge anomoly.

As soon as I finish my current patrol, I plan on ending my current career and starting fresh with RFB for ROW, as well as RSRDC.

Good choice... RSRD gives you a greater sense of purpose -the objectives all being much better explained. You get decent communications from command throughout your patrol. Install it in the order I did and you should be rewarded with a trouble free experience.

[DrBeast]

Originally Posted by lurker_hlb3

Ok

Whats the problem ????

What is RSRDC doing that causing you such a BIG problem

Lurker, for the love of the Gods, read my post again carefully. I've stated in bold letters that the problem is caused by the guns_radars.sim file of ROW (corrected the name of the file in my post btw, sorry, another case of foot-in-mouth!):

Originally Posted by panthercules

@Lurker - I don't think he's saying that RSRDC is causing a problem - I think he's saying that it's the ROW file that he thinks is causing the problem (the cycling DC racks issue). I think he's just pointing out that the ROW file seems to be missing some of the information/settings that the RSRDC file contains, and suggesting that maybe this absence is an indication of what might be wrong with the ROW file in question.

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.
Also, check your PMs

[Defiance]

Hiya's,
To clarify somewhat, I did a totally clean install after a manual reg cleanup etc

SH4 with ROW creates the looping/cycling depth-charge doo dahh

SO does SH4 + TM 1.65 + ROW

And it is seems to be deffo caused by Objects Reflections v4 moreover the guns_radars.sim file as several guys have said

Hope this info may help sort this bug

(i assume bad i know, that other added mods fill in the errors in objects vs4 ? )

Have Fun

Ciao

Def