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Old 10-20-13, 11:12 PM   #166
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Old 10-20-13, 11:56 PM   #167
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So which came first? The desire to discredit BO or your research? What was the hypothesis you decided needed to be researched?

I have said this before.When Obama became a serious candidate in 08, when he started giving Hillary a run I was open to him because I was not thrilled with the Republican candidates and despite what you think, I am open minded to voting for a Democrat, just have to find one who is not a marxist and in the modern Democratic party, pretty difficult to find. Anyways, I liked him initially, he was "clean" had a good message, would have even tolerated some of the liberal tendencies I just will not like about democrats.I heard about his book, so I picked it up.That disturbed me, pretty much turned me away from obama, then not long after the Reverend Wright scandal came out, then the Bill Ayers connection.The Rezko connection along with finding out who his mentor, Frank Marshall Davis was, a hardcore communist.Learning more about his mother and grandparents, very left leaning people.Finding out how he abstained from voting so many times as a Senator but when he did vote, he was the most liberal Senator, along with some class warfare rhetoric I heard from him as a candidate, it painted the picture of him.

Then he won, I decided to be fair, give him a chance.Reversed the idiotic Bush policy of no federal funding for stem cell research, cool but was waiting for something stupid to come along and it did not take long.The stimulus, more keyenesianism.Protected the New Black Panther's from prosecution for voter intimidate but having Eric Holder drop the case, more class warfare rhetoric, just started confirming what I thought about him.Then came the low and dirty manner in which obamacare was shoved through and the idiocy of the law itself, which he gleefully signed. The naivete shown in foreign policy, the apology tour etc That is what turned me against him.

Then came his drone strikes on US citizens, he push to get amnesty through for ILLEGAL immigrants who do not belong here.The signing of the NDAA allowing for indefinite detention. Fast and Furious, Benghazi.Exploiting the tragedy at Sandy Hook to try and shove anti second amendment legislation through congress.Signing of the UN Arms Treaty, it just adds up but none of it shocks me as it fits what I learned about him, he is a far left ideologue who's values and principles are in direct conflict with majority of people in this country and our constitution and history.

Nice try saying I already did not like him, so just used other things to try and discredit him.I was open to him and even briefly liked him and if more people had read his book, he would have never been elected. A white guy wrote the things he did, they would have never been elected.
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That really tops it, Bubbles has a problem with the negro because Scooby doo and the pesky kids would have foiled poor whitey if it was his dastardly scheme
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So what exactly in his book turned you off?
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Old 10-21-13, 05:54 AM   #170
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To determine whether Obama was a Marxist, one would need to study Marxism. Have you, Bubblehead?
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That really tops it, Bubbles has a problem with the negro because Scooby doo and the pesky kids would have foiled poor whitey if it was his dastardly scheme
Why make it racial?
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Obama's far from marxist.

Obama is something we would call right wing here
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Why make it racial?
Yup. A good question. Why did you:
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Obama's far from marxist.

Obama is something we would call right wing here
Yup. And as far as U.S. Presidents go, I'd say he is to the right of Nixon in his later years.

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So what exactly in his book turned you off?

I don't have time to type them all currently but there are quite a few racist quotes in that book, just shows his mentality.One that sticks out if where he talks about avoiding being seen with white students when he was in college, to "avoid being mistaken for a sell out". Referred to his paternal grandfather as a "house ******"(his words)

I remember him talking about working in capitalist system as "working behind enemy lines" , that he felt like a sell out.

"I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites."

There are plenty of others, READ the book, everyone should.

I don't want to hear about context, that has been the excuse, they try to argue some things were taken out of context.No, it shows his attitude when he authored the book.Attitudes that are still there going by his race baiting behavior.I will update post when have time.
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Yup. A good question. Why did you:

That was not making it racial, that was the truth.Tribes tried to make it racial, there is a difference between what we said.
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Obama's far from marxist.

Obama is something we would call right wing here
That is scary if obama would be considered right wing there, I feel for your country.No, at his heart, obama is a marxist, it is who he is and it is honestly who the modern democratic party is.Of course they don't adhere to it rigidly but much of their "thought" is marxist in it's nature.
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Yup. And as far as U.S. Presidents go, I'd say he is to the right of Nixon in his later years.

Oh COME ON.
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