Bin Laden is dead, official

[Stealhead]

If that is the case then it is better to use that 5.56mm and JDAM than to just allow them to do what they want 100% freely and unchallenged where they can hurt you even worse that is like saying there will always be crime so may as well just get rid of laws and police.

Sorry you post seems to sort of contradict itself.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Guess we now see if the threats of a nuke weapon somewhere in Europe were true.

Well, you don't think terrorists would be holding back if they had it, do you? Osama alive or dead.

Edit: Randomizer makes my point better than me.

And I think the GWOT is doing a pretty good job of rendering them null and void.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Well, you don't think terrorists would be holding back if they had it, do you? Osama alive or dead.

That'd be a good point.

[Gerald]

Threats and terror reaches all corners of the world, regardless of whether Osama now sleeps with fishes

[Stealhead]

I think they are much more likely to attempt several much smaller scale attacks in reaction to Osmas death our troops in Afghanistan will see some serious attacks in the next few weeks from the fanatics.

Long term who knows it is going to have a huge effect on AQ and the like Bin Laden was more or less a living god to them this is the beginning of the end for AQ pretty much I doubt anyone else in their ranks can fill his leadership role they will still be a threat for some time though for sure.

I am sure some highly valuable intel was gathered during the raid so who knows what they will discover while analyzing it.

[Onkel Neal]

True, but I am sure a lot happier that he is sleeping with the fishes.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

Long term who knows it is going to have a huge effect on AQ and the like Bin Laden was more or less a living god to them this is the beginning of the end for AQ pretty much I doubt anyone else in their ranks can fill his leadership role they will still be a threat for some time though for sure.

It is my understanding that Osama hadn't been in any kind of leading role in AQ in years. More like a poster-boy.

Loss surely, but don't think it's nearly as big as everyone makes it look like.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Vendor

Threats and terror reaches all corners of the world, regardless of whether Osama now sleeps with fishes

True, but the team players are missing their coach and motivator. Perhaps they now realize they will be hunted down relentlessly. Sheds a different light on their endeavours.

[GoldenRivet]

the killing of OBL is not about ridding the world of evil.

its not about causing terror groups to crumble.

its not about putting an end to any and all forms of terrorism.

its simple really...

its about retribution.

we got him, he is dead, finding and capturing or killing him has been the central thesis of 10 years of American history - and world history - and that has been completed, that chapter can now be closed IMHO thats all that matters.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Vendor

Threats and terror reaches all corners of the world, regardless of whether Osama now sleeps with fishes

I don't suppose it's lost on anyone why they shucked his carcass overboard. For one, they can make up any story they want (True or not) about treating it according to muslim tradition. But two, it ends that messy scenario of "what to do with the body?" when on dry land. Anywhere he gets buried is going to be venerated by muslim jihadits. Best to just chuck the animal overboard and be done with it. Not that, that gives the satisfaction that could have been had, if we had buried him the way I originally described.

[seaniam81]

Originally Posted by Kapitän Schneider

Amazing what Americans can do when the Playstation Network goes down.

That just made my day!
Anyways congrats to the US Armed Forces, for taking down OBL.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

I don't suppose it's lost on anyone why they shucked his carcass overboard. For one, they can make up any story they want (True or not) about treating it according to muslim tradition. But two, it ends that messy scenario of "what to do with the body?" when on dry land. Anywhere he gets buried is going to be venerated by muslim jihadits. Best to just chuck the animal overboard and be done with it. Not that, that gives the satisfaction that could have been had, if we had buried him the way I originally described.

It makes it a bit difficult to pay homage to a grave that is not there.

Originally Posted by Stealhead

If that is the case then it is better to use that 5.56mm and JDAM than to just allow them to do what they want 100% freely and unchallenged where they can hurt you even worse that is like saying there will always be crime so may as well just get rid of laws and police.

Sorry you post seems to sort of contradict itself.

No contradiction at all, I'm a fan of the state using extra-legal means to delete the terrorist leadership even if it means crossing international boundries to do so.

The problem with JDAM's and the like is that high explosives when used in quantity can have unfortunate side effects. These are usually political or moral but they can impede the main effort particularly when a (relatively) free press can trumpet for the other side.

There are no military solutions to international terrorism and limited scope for large scale military action in even regional insurrectionist situations.

Terrorists are essentially criminals regardless of their aims and goals. A blend of police style detective investigative procedures coupled with directed firepower delivered up close and personal by highly trained and motivated professionals will win out in the long run over the dedicated fanatic.

Every time a JDAM kills or injures a bystander it provides a poster child for terrorist recruiters. On the other hand, when the terrorist leadership starts to vanish, seemingly off the face of the earth or turn up some morning with a 9mm double-tap to the skull, without fanfare or show trials, over time followers might start to become difficult to find.

[Alex]

@ Dowly : Indeed.
Can't wait to hear about the retaliation way of Osama's troops. Taking in consideration the fact that aircraft crashing into some towers have been no more than the introduction to this war, I don't know what's going to happen next in the united states of America, but I expect Osama's troops to take some pretty drastic measures now.

[Armistead]

I see the Pakistani government has come out with complaints against us., and we increased our budget to them by 3 billion dollars.. Probably what paid for Osama's mansion