Massive Price Drop! - Page 12

Nordmann · 03-26-10, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Nisgeis

Game has reduced their price to £12.98 as well and also amazon has recently dropped the price of AC2 as well to £15.98.

ShopTo.Net's price has also dropped £3 to £19.85 for SH5 and AC2 is also £19.85 (not sure what it was previously, but it wasn't that low).

Buuuuuuut... Germany and the US are the markets for subsims.

Ah, that's right, you mentioned it earlier in the thread (before it got swamped by rants). Perhaps the UK stores are having trouble shifting it, compared with the US market. Still, perhaps Amazon and Game are trying to stay ahead of their competitors, and make more sales than those still selling it for full price.

Zedi · 03-26-10, 02:59 PM

Well, I agree with the feeling that the dev team warned the fat guys from Ubi ceo that this game is not ready for the market. This is mostly because SH5 was released on market with AC2 and I supose these fat guys had a tight release schedule. Ready or not, we are going live. If we fail, the dev team will get the kicks, we play low and get fat.

I say that because I saw (and we all did) many pre release vids on YT, shots taken from the "closed beta" version of SH5. So there was indeed a beta version and there for sure was a long list of bugs. But I suppose was no time to fix them. All the bugs I saw on those beta vids are still here on the release version.

Only the forum rules keeps me back to not rage with full hate at Ubi ceo. This company is a joke and the fat dudes in ceo can play only with xls files, having fun only with the company revenues. These guys are not gamers, they suck and they have a huge luck with the AC2 success now. I am and I will ever be a Blizzard fan, the only game company I trust now where everybody is a hardcore gamer first, business man second. And they golden rule "it's ready when it's ready" made every game they release to be a master piece. Ubi deserve no respect, except the fact they are the only company who still make a sub sim.

Hitman · 03-26-10, 03:02 PM

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I don't think one can discount the massive marketing power of a major publisher like Ubi or EA. When Sonalysts decided to publish their own game, Dangerous Waters, as a direct download only (to begin with) the sales were terrible, even though that game was the first and best example of a sub/ship/air naval simulation.

Yeah, so far despite the best efforts of electronic distributers, there is still nothing as tempting for the casual customer as going to a shopping center and seeing a DVD box with a good art cover in the shelf. Of course those guys who are constantly in the internet and looking for the latest news on games and specifically on the genere they like will buy it via pay-download, but the hige market of gut-customers attracted by the DVD label is that way largely mishandled.

KL-alfman · 03-26-10, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Nisgeis

Buuuuuuut... Germany and the US are the markets for subsims.

as for amazon.de I just can tell that they reduced the price too. on release the price was around €49 but now it dropped to around €35 and there are already german suppliers who offer SH5 for around €30

edit: the link
http://www.amazon.de/gp/offer-listin...&condition=new

janh · 03-26-10, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KL-alfman

as for amazon.de I just can tell that they reduced the price too. on release the price was around €49 but now it dropped to around €35 and there are already german suppliers who offer SH5 for around €30

edit: the link
http://www.amazon.de/gp/offer-listin...&condition=new

It's probably not meaningful, but if it were, it would be unlucky: I check amazon.de's supply daily to get a feel for how well it was going out, but two weeks ago their stock was 34. On no day did it drop below 29, but now it is 30, so they must have also gotten resupply. Hard to say, but for stocks of other games, say Call of Duty, there is much more fluctuation then 5.

Nordmann · 03-26-10, 06:28 PM

Ouch, 150 reviews, and it has a 1.5 star rating, with 130 one star ratings alone. I wonder how many of those people actually bought the game.

Sonarman · 03-26-10, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Nisgeis

Buuuuuuut... Germany and the US are the markets for subsims.

Actually, I think it's Germany & the UK, why do you think the US didn't get a printed manual this time out? SH3 sold 90K copes in the states out of 350000+ units, whilst SH4 only sold 50K copies in the states. It must have sold at least 150K units in Europe or I am sure there would have been no SH5.

Sonarman · 03-26-10, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Nordmann

Ouch, 150 reviews, and it has a 1.5 star rating, with 130 one star ratings alone. I wonder how many of those people actually bought the game.

Yes if patch 1.2 solves a lot of the bugs and missing features we should perhaps try to "re-dress the balance" on Amazon or it may indeed be the end for the series.

Nisgeis · 03-26-10, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonarman

Actually, I think it's Germany & the UK, why do you think the US didn't get a printed manual this time out?

The demographic most interested in subsims is US and Germany, I don't have a reference for that to hand, but I have read that before (I know that's bad to say it without any links) and also the demographic most interested in SH videos is US and Germany on youtube, the UK is tiny in comparisson. As to why didn't the US get a printed manual - who knows why Ubisoft do the crazy things they do

? The US got a documentary DVD that no other region got.

KL-alfman · 03-26-10, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Nordmann

Ouch, 150 reviews, and it has a 1.5 star rating, with 130 one star ratings alone. I wonder how many of those people actually bought the game.

a big amount of these reviews are quite elaborated and (sadly) only a few adress mods as solutions to some bugs.
I would assume the vast majority has bought the game ...

Adriatico · 03-26-10, 07:18 PM

Reviews are marking the released game... mods or would-be mods are not considered.

The facts are:
- Review marks are DISASTER.
- It faced a sharp price drop in THE FIRST MONTH of release.

So these monkeys would rather face "bargain bin" destiny in a month or two... rather than removing DRM.

Wide community and pirats have already forgotten this "simulation"... so what is the goal of DRM? To keep it's traditional buyers away from Silent Buger 5 ?

Congratulations Ubi...

KL-alfman · 03-26-10, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Adriatico

Reviews are marking the released game... mods or would-be mods are not considered.

you are right.

but I wrote about the buyers' feedback at amazon.de - the people tell from their own experiences with the game (and just a few had modded versions). and these remarks are disastrous.

Nafod81 · 03-26-10, 07:42 PM

It's just funny how people seem to seperate UBI from UBI Rumania.

As Elanaiba said

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Before I close this down, I have two more things to say:

1) Ubisoft is a company, of which Ubisoft Romania is a part. Please stop separating the two. Not everything that is good is our merit, not everything that is bad is "the suits" fault. I, of all people, have my parts in the failures of SH5. The people "high up" could have simply decided not to do another SH, just as you guys can choose not to buy.

I personally don't believe assailing the dev's superiors on this board either

1) accomplishes anything

OR

2) does the devs any good.

corvette k225 · 03-26-10, 11:14 PM

So in six months what will be lower in price, SHIV or SHV ?

Cavell · 03-26-10, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

Well on steam it is still on the top 10 sellers list at the original price.

I'm guessing those in the UK arent as keen on subsims.

No, it isn't.

It cracked the Steam top 10 its first week out, at number 8 I believe, and was then beaten out by Counter-Strike: Source.

03-26-10, 06:28 PM	#171
Nordmann Commodore Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: England Posts: 628 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	Ouch, 150 reviews, and it has a 1.5 star rating, with 130 one star ratings alone. I wonder how many of those people actually bought the game. __________________ "I must confess that my imagination refuses to see any sort of submarine doing anything but suffocating its crew and floundering at sea." - H. G. Wells

03-26-10, 07:18 PM	#176
Adriatico Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2007 Location: Periscope depth Posts: 860 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	Reviews are marking the released game... mods or would-be mods are not considered. The facts are: - Review marks are DISASTER. - It faced a sharp price drop in THE FIRST MONTH of release. So these monkeys would rather face "bargain bin" destiny in a month or two... rather than removing DRM. Wide community and pirats have already forgotten this "simulation"... so what is the goal of DRM? To keep it's traditional buyers away from Silent Buger 5 ? Congratulations Ubi... __________________

03-26-10, 02:59 PM	#167
Zedi Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,845 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 2	Well, I agree with the feeling that the dev team warned the fat guys from Ubi ceo that this game is not ready for the market. This is mostly because SH5 was released on market with AC2 and I supose these fat guys had a tight release schedule. Ready or not, we are going live. If we fail, the dev team will get the kicks, we play low and get fat. I say that because I saw (and we all did) many pre release vids on YT, shots taken from the "closed beta" version of SH5. So there was indeed a beta version and there for sure was a long list of bugs. But I suppose was no time to fix them. All the bugs I saw on those beta vids are still here on the release version. Only the forum rules keeps me back to not rage with full hate at Ubi ceo. This company is a joke and the fat dudes in ceo can play only with xls files, having fun only with the company revenues. These guys are not gamers, they suck and they have a huge luck with the AC2 success now. I am and I will ever be a Blizzard fan, the only game company I trust now where everybody is a hardcore gamer first, business man second. And they golden rule "it's ready when it's ready" made every game they release to be a master piece. Ubi deserve no respect, except the fact they are the only company who still make a sub sim.

03-26-10, 11:14 PM	#179
corvette k225 Lieutenant Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: USA Posts: 254 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 0	So in six months what will be lower in price, SHIV or SHV ?