[REL] OhioSSBN mod for Silent Hunter IV - Page 12

thyro · 04-09-09, 02:03 AM

Excellent info ETR3(SS)

looks like I'll need to release new FX files do correct the placement of the countermeasures launcher

The venting matter revealed a bit complicated to be applied on SH4... because the game doesn't provide info if the sub is diving or surfacing... Defining a certain depth for vents to work won't be ideal scenario because vents would eventually work on both occasions which isn't correct I think.

ETR3(SS) · 04-09-09, 02:08 PM

Ok have some initial feedback for now. Tested this under 1.4 and it works fine with one exception I noticed on the torpedo screen.

http://yfrog.com/43sh4img20090409113823906p

The best way to describe this I think is...funky. Is there an ideal resolution I should be using to prevent this, or could this be a v1.4 compatibility issue?

Next thing I noticed were the periscopes.

The scope fairings look good, but the scope itself is extending too far beyond the fairing. The black part at the top of the scope should be at the top of the fairing (kinda how I'm pointing with the arrow). Also the observation scope, would it be possible to put it next to the attack scope and make it the same height?

ETR3(SS) · 04-09-09, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomagabriel

c) I do not know how to change the CO2 problem at the moment (without doing the realism change). The only workaround without decreasing the realism "number" is to probably change the realism weight of this setting to 0 so that fiddling with it does not change realism. Also don't know how to do this at the moment.

Found it, the path is...

C:\Program Files\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter Wolves of the Pacific\Data\Cfg\GameplaySettings.cfg

Open it in wordpad or notepad. Go all the way to the bottom and you can edit the realism percentage values.

Edit: The file lists it as O2 not as CO2, just took a look at it. Not that it matters, same result in the end.

tomagabriel · 04-09-09, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

Ok have some initial feedback for now. Tested this under 1.4 and it works fine with one exception I noticed on the torpedo screen.

http://yfrog.com/43sh4img20090409113823906p

Could you go in the un-modded version of SH4 v. 1.4
\Silent Hunter 4 Wolves of the Pacific\Data\Menu\Gui\Layout
folder and send me the file US_torpedoes512.dds (or make a screenshot from it)? I want to see how it looks. Perhaps the file in v. 1.4 has a different layout than the one in v. 1.5 (it might be smaller and therefore if I put a taller image it would cut some part from it and compress it vertically thus giving this effect).

The file in v. 1.5 that I've used looks like this:

If your file (the v .1.4 file) looks like this:

then I know where the problem is

Edit:
About the periscopes(I forgot to add), it can be done as you suggested (I'll send some screen for you to see that I've got it right).

ETR3(SS) · 04-09-09, 07:19 PM

Think this answers the question.

Deep_Nukem · 04-09-09, 10:29 PM

May I make a suggestion/wish?

SHIV has the eye candy.........while Dangerous Waters has the platforms and weapons doctrines, etc..........right?

Instead of trying to put modern subs and systems from (sorta) a modern era sim like dangerous waters into SHIV..........

Seems to me a much easier thing to do would be to simply replace dangerous waters "water/ocean" with SHIV's water/ocean.

Then you have the eye candy of SHIV water in DW.

I know, I'm nuts. I don't know much about it, but I do know that if Falcon 4 can go from direct x 5 to direct x 7 thru modding.......that in theory, it should be possible to do the same to DW.

I have spoken, that is all, carry on.

Kaye T. Bai · 04-09-09, 10:34 PM

Legal issues aside, is it possible to use code, script, etc from Dangerous Waters in Silent Hunter 4?

tomagabriel · 04-10-09, 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deep_Nukem

May I make a suggestion/wish?

SHIV has the eye candy.........while Dangerous Waters has the platforms and weapons doctrines, etc..........right?

Instead of trying to put modern subs and systems from (sorta) a modern era sim like dangerous waters into SHIV..........

Seems to me a much easier thing to do would be to simply replace dangerous waters "water/ocean" with SHIV's water/ocean.

Then you have the eye candy of SHIV water in DW.

I know, I'm nuts. I don't know much about it, but I do know that if Falcon 4 can go from direct x 5 to direct x 7 thru modding.......that in theory, it should be possible to do the same to DW.

I have spoken, that is all, carry on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaye T. Bai

Legal issues aside, is it possible to use code, script, etc from Dangerous Waters in Silent Hunter 4?

Even if mixing code would be allowed I think it would be an insane amount of work to make it "fly". I myself am a beginner in coding. Only did some play-work in some C++ based graphic engines like Iirlicht or Ogre3D. Maybe we should start from scratch and do a sim-engine!?

For DW one is not allowed to add playable platforms (at least this was the policy when I first checked). So what is doable is to increase the quality of existing ones. Perhaps there is no restriction in improving the visuals, but I do not have very rich experience with DW.

Edit:
ETR3(SS) - noted!

Kaye T. Bai · 04-10-09, 03:09 AM

Thanks for the info.

Pvt. Public · 04-10-09, 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomagabriel

For DW one is not allowed to add playable platforms

hold on, can you explain this? i find it hard to believe that the creators of a game would try and suppress a modding community (unless its EA) can you point to any official statement on that?

and yes it would likely be impossible to take SH4 materials and import it into DW, it would likely require the source code for both. the chances of that are about as good as the moon deciding it no longer likes a stable orbit and giving the earth a kiss.

and for a minor derail i have a question, how is DW? is it pretty moddable? and whats this about 64x max TC?

tomagabriel · 04-10-09, 04:32 AM

Well, to go off topic a bit. On subsim/Dangerous Waters forums there are discussions about mods that add playable platforms (RA mod is one of them - if I understand correctly - I did not test it .. yet).

There are long debates there about EULAs 'n stuff and why some mods are legal or not so legal. Somewhere in such a thread I've seen some quotation by some official saying that they reserve the right to add playable platforms to the sim. I am not 100% sure of what i say, but I've seen such discussions several times. Problem is... this sim seems to be dead in the water from further development point of view.

Anyway, mods like RA seem very tempting to both contribute to and also play.

Roger_Becker · 04-11-09, 03:16 PM

Hi guys, I need your help!

I take a movie of the Typhoon, but I do not like the texture of it. Could one of you help me an make an other texture for the Typhoon for me/us?

http://allwoodships.com/Submarines/R...41,Typhoon.htm

ETR3(SS) · 04-12-09, 04:19 PM

How are the changes coming? Got more for ya whenever you are ready.

tomagabriel · 04-12-09, 04:47 PM

People with SH4 v. 1.4 playing the Ohio mod and experiencing weird torpedo loading screens (see one of the above posts of ETR3(SS) ) , download this file and place it in your Ohio mod folder in
\MODS\OhioSSBN\Data\Menu\gui\Layout

The file here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/22059033...rpedoes512.dds

P.S. Backup the original file first! (I did not test the file because I would have to reinstall my SH4 in an un-pached state and I didn't have time for that so far).

ETR3(SS) · 04-12-09, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomagabriel

People with SH4 v. 1.4 playing the Ohio mod and experiencing weird torpedo loading screens (see one of the above posts of ETR3(SS) ) , download this file and place it in your Ohio mod folder in
\MODS\OhioSSBN\Data\Menu\gui\Layout

The file here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/22059033...rpedoes512.dds

P.S. Backup the original file first! (I did not test the file because I would have to reinstall my SH4 in an un-pached state and I didn't have time for that so far).

That did it. Works beautifully.

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04-09-09, 02:03 AM	#166
thyro Commander Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: on a rock surrounded by water, that people call it UK Posts: 473 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Excellent info ETR3(SS) looks like I'll need to release new FX files do correct the placement of the countermeasures launcher The venting matter revealed a bit complicated to be applied on SH4... because the game doesn't provide info if the sub is diving or surfacing... Defining a certain depth for vents to work won't be ideal scenario because vents would eventually work on both occasions which isn't correct I think. __________________ "The good news is that you’re never, ever more than 6 miles from land. The bad news is, the land is straight down!"

04-09-09, 02:08 PM	#167
ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	Ok have some initial feedback for now. Tested this under 1.4 and it works fine with one exception I noticed on the torpedo screen. http://yfrog.com/43sh4img20090409113823906p The best way to describe this I think is...funky. Is there an ideal resolution I should be using to prevent this, or could this be a v1.4 compatibility issue? Next thing I noticed were the periscopes. The scope fairings look good, but the scope itself is extending too far beyond the fairing. The black part at the top of the scope should be at the top of the fairing (kinda how I'm pointing with the arrow). Also the observation scope, would it be possible to put it next to the attack scope and make it the same height? __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

04-09-09, 07:19 PM	#170
ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	Think this answers the question. __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

04-09-09, 10:29 PM	#171
Deep_Nukem Mate Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 52 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	May I make a suggestion/wish? SHIV has the eye candy.........while Dangerous Waters has the platforms and weapons doctrines, etc..........right? Instead of trying to put modern subs and systems from (sorta) a modern era sim like dangerous waters into SHIV.......... Seems to me a much easier thing to do would be to simply replace dangerous waters "water/ocean" with SHIV's water/ocean. Then you have the eye candy of SHIV water in DW. I know, I'm nuts. I don't know much about it, but I do know that if Falcon 4 can go from direct x 5 to direct x 7 thru modding.......that in theory, it should be possible to do the same to DW. I have spoken, that is all, carry on. __________________ There is no need to run........you are already dead.

04-09-09, 10:34 PM	#172
Kaye T. Bai Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Western Hemisphere, Earth, Milky Way Galaxy, Local Group, Virgo Supercluster Posts: 585 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Legal issues aside, is it possible to use code, script, etc from Dangerous Waters in Silent Hunter 4? Last edited by Kaye T. Bai; 04-10-09 at 12:17 AM.

04-10-09, 03:09 AM	#174
Kaye T. Bai Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Western Hemisphere, Earth, Milky Way Galaxy, Local Group, Virgo Supercluster Posts: 585 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the info.

04-10-09, 04:32 AM	#176
tomagabriel Machinist's Mate Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 122 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 3	Well, to go off topic a bit. On subsim/Dangerous Waters forums there are discussions about mods that add playable platforms (RA mod is one of them - if I understand correctly - I did not test it .. yet). There are long debates there about EULAs 'n stuff and why some mods are legal or not so legal. Somewhere in such a thread I've seen some quotation by some official saying that they reserve the right to add playable platforms to the sim. I am not 100% sure of what i say, but I've seen such discussions several times. Problem is... this sim seems to be dead in the water from further development point of view. Anyway, mods like RA seem very tempting to both contribute to and also play.

04-11-09, 03:16 PM	#177
Roger_Becker Watch Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 18 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	Help me pl Hi guys, I need your help! I take a movie of the Typhoon, but I do not like the texture of it. Could one of you help me an make an other texture for the Typhoon for me/us? http://allwoodships.com/Submarines/R...41,Typhoon.htm

04-12-09, 04:19 PM	#178
ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	How are the changes coming? Got more for ya whenever you are ready. __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

04-12-09, 04:47 PM	#179
tomagabriel Machinist's Mate Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 122 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 3	People with SH4 v. 1.4 playing the Ohio mod and experiencing weird torpedo loading screens (see one of the above posts of ETR3(SS) ) , download this file and place it in your Ohio mod folder in \MODS\OhioSSBN\Data\Menu\gui\Layout The file here: http://rapidshare.com/files/22059033...rpedoes512.dds P.S. Backup the original file first! (I did not test the file because I would have to reinstall my SH4 in an un-pached state and I didn't have time for that so far).