[REL] Thomsen's Water V4.0 (10/12/2008) - The Pool results go live - NEW VERSION!!!

[Haddock]

Moin Thomsen
I do a little test with your "2.0 Water" ( not really beta-testing, only some single missions. I don't have much time for SH3 at the moment. ) and i have to say it looks really great.
IMOH, the SH4-water looks beautyfull on screenshots, but Thomsen's water looks great when "moving" too.
Great piece of work, thanks very much, Thomsen.

Ps: btw, love your soundmod. A must have for me.

[SeaWolf U-57]

using 2.0 water at night you have bright stars but no moon??? first light the sky and sea turned a bright blue it did not look right at all

[Philipp_Thomsen]

Originally Posted by Phoenix1957

using 2.0 water at night you have bright stars but no moon??? first light the sky and sea turned a bright blue it did not look right at all

Funny... that doesn't happen to me.
This is just a wave modification over OLCE2, so it's mainly OLCE2 with different waves and reflections, so I don't see how would your nights turn blue. Are you sure you'd enable this mod on top of the latest version of OLCE2?

[mengle]

difficult to choose mister thomsen between the scene dat./env. from you and the one from WAC 3.0 in my GWX 2.1

[Philipp_Thomsen]

Originally Posted by mengle

difficult to choose mister thomsen between the scene dat./env. from you and the one from WAC 3.0 in my GWX 2.1

Good thing is that you can choose!

[Wolfehunter]

PT I'm going to give my old system a try with your mod.. See if I don't CTD or just lag on FPS. I'll let you know what happens.

My new rig should be arriving any day now. Can't wait to set that baby up...

[SeaWolf U-57]

Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen

Funny... that doesn't happen to me.
This is just a wave modification over OLCE2, so it's mainly OLCE2 with different waves and reflections, so I don't see how would your nights turn blue. Are you sure you'd enable this mod on top of the latest version of OLCE2?

No i didn't

[Wolfehunter]

Here is my review on PT's wonderful mod Water 2.0 and enhancement to OLC great uber mod.


My current system spec are,

Intel P4 3.2E GHZ 800MHz 1mb L2 cache PGA 478
Intel D865PERLX motherboard w/snd w/lan
OCZ Titanium Dual Channel PC3200 1meg chips 2325
XFX Nvidia GeForce7600GT 256meg AGP
Soundblaster X-Fi Elite Pro
Western Digital WD2000JD 200Gigs SATA
LG GSA-H10L DVD Burner
Antech True 480 powersupply

NVidia settings,
AS filtering 2x
AA gamma correction on
AA Setting 8xS
AA Transparency Multisampling
TF Negative LOD bias allow
TF Quality High
Triple buffering on

Using resolution 1680x1050

I used fraps to get the FPS rates.

Mods activated,
CapZapEmblemsPack
Beethoven's Symphonies
Lutzow Music Mod 5.0
Pacos_German_Folklore_SubEmblems_Mod_V1.2
AOTD-AA-Ship-Schleuse-Bugfix
Multiskin_Bismark_Tirpitz
GWX - Contact Color
DD_all_types_OH_V2
Thomsen's Sound Pack V3-2
Reworked GWX SH.sdl file for Ultimate Aircraft Soundmod
Ultimate Aircraft Soundmod
Rbs7Flags
VIIB_splashwave_fix
RB_Rubini_combo_wakefix_exhaust
WH_VIIB_Plain_2048
Testskins
OLCE2
OLCE2 - Adjusted GWX 2.1 Enhanced Particle Effects (with reflections)
OLCE2 Adjusted GWX 2.1 Crew Skins
OLCE2 Fixed GWX 2.1 Ship Reflections
STzSinkingShipFix 2.1
Thomsen's Water 2.0

Results,
I was expecting to have major frame rates hits but actually turn out better than with OLC default. Even in the harbour it was rather nice. Still low but better FPS than with OLC alone.

After in the ocean FPS averaged about 19 to 25 FPS depending on the direction of LOS. Flag in the back of the conningtower took out 3 to 4 FPS but was acceptible.

Bad weather I had decent frame rates also. Ranging 18 to 24.

Top down was 31 to 35

Night or day didn't make a difference.

Some pic below,
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...ter/PTV2-9.jpg
and,
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...er/PTV2-11.jpg
Only issue with the calm seas was the sun reflection made the water too white. If you can somehow figue a balance PT your on track to perfection.

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...ter/PTV2-7.jpg
Looking top down shows the wave looking very real.

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...ter/PTV2-8.jpg
PT is it possible to make the reflection like the sun show in the sea similar to the clouds. If I look top down you can see the reflection of the clouds barely. Nice touch.

In high waters I receave incorrect wind speeds and waves that looked weird.

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...ter/PTV2-6.jpg
,
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...ter/PTV2-5.jpg
,
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...ter/PTV2-4.jpg
If I was with the waves I couldn't move. Also my U-boat when below the water more often than floating above it.

If I went against the waves then I was spearing through them I could move.
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...ter/PTV2-3.jpg
,
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...ter/PTV2-2.jpg


Even the NPC boats had a hard time but managed.
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...ter/PTV2-1.jpg

In my opinion your large uber waves need some work. I think I understand what your trying to acheive and your very close. High waves with the arches on top but it doesn't look right yet. Need some more tweaking.

So in calm water you have mastered its look, 10 on 10
In rough waters your close to mastering it. 6\10

Average all around 3D FPS was 23 for me and in 2D it was 40 night and 60 day.

I like the look of the calm waters. If only you can get the sun to reflect on it would finish the details of the game.

I don't know what your minimum requirement but I force my system and it works well. If you use default resolution 1024x768 I don't think you think you will have a problem running this mod on older systems... But I haven't check yet so can't really confirm that.

Thanks philipp thomsen for this mod. I can't wait to see your future works.

Your fan,

WH.

[Philipp_Thomsen]

Thanks for the review, Wolfehunter!

Are you using SH3 Commander? If so, go to SH3C options and disable the "set wave height". The problems you're experiencing with high waves might be caused by that, cos in my system the waves on high seas don't look NOTHING like that. I'd put a warning about that with huge green letters on the first post of the thread.

Also, about that sun reflection on the water, I'm trying to fix that, it annoys me too. I'm working on that, and I'll release a version with better sun reflection soon, it's killing the look of the water when looking in the sun direction, really looks terrible.

Did you see my video? On high wind speeds, the waves look like that! From your pictures, looks like something is wrong, and I think it might be that SH3 Commander option, about the "wave high". You should leave it disabled.

[Wolfehunter]

Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen

Thanks for the review, Wolfehunter!

Are you using SH3 Commander? If so, go to SH3C options and disable the "set wave height". The problems you're experiencing with high waves might be caused by that, cos in my system the waves on high seas don't look NOTHING like that. I'd put a warning about that with huge green letters on the first post of the thread.

Also, about that sun reflection on the water, I'm trying to fix that, it annoys me too. I'm working on that, and I'll release a version with better sun reflection soon, it's killing the look of the water when looking in the sun direction, really looks terrible.

Did you see my video? On high wind speeds, the waves look like that! From your pictures, looks like something is wrong, and I think it might be that SH3 Commander option, about the "wave high". You should leave it disabled.

oops crap I did read that and I forgot to do it... lol

Sorry I'll update it shortly..

[Philipp_Thomsen]

Originally Posted by Wolfehunter

oops crap I did read that and I forgot to do it... lol

Sorry I'll update it shortly..

:rotfl:

Don't worry, no problem.

I think I'll make this mod compatible with SH3 Commander's wave height option, cos from where I'm looking, a lot of people use that option. I don't, I use purelly my mod to control the waves. But a few tweaks here and there and you guys will be able to use "seasonal" option from sh3 commander with my mod!

[Wolfehunter]

Arg... I was hoping to get some bad weather shots and I get a convoi on the 5th day in sea. lol BE88 was the location and I took out 11 ships one destroyer, one aux cruiser and 2 large merchant ships 1 medium few small and a passenger ship.

Total kill 68000+ tons.

well I do have some nice shots for the water look but no bad weather yet...

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...er/PTV2-15.jpg
Nice shot leaving the bay.

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...er/PTV2-14.jpg
Water looks great.

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...er/PTV2-13.jpg
My favorite shot of the evening.

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...er/PTV2-12.jpg
Unlucky large merchant had a bad day. Nice fire reflection on the water.

Oh well back to SH3..

[Task Force]

Nice shots Wolfehunter. The third one is the best.

[Wolfehunter]

Yup its a beauty... You have to thank PT and OLC for that.. With out their work this would be only a dream.

[Philipp_Thomsen]

That fire & smoke reflection on the water looks terrific!

Thanks for the pictures, wolfe!

You should publish those pictures in the screenshot thread!