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Old 01-28-08, 10:31 PM   #166
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The real issue that limited the Kreigsmarine is no Blue water ports till it was too late. Look at how hard of a run it could have been for a CV battle groups to survive heading to the N. Atlantic. The Germans should have leased the Italian Navy instead - lol. Also consider that the Germans had even less experience than the Allies regarding carriers - tough time to learn - after you go to war.
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Old 01-29-08, 02:49 PM   #167
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What?! You guys still talking about this? Ok, ok let's all wrap it up,

Once there was this Austrian nutcase named Hitler.
He was peeved because he thought the Jews prevented him from becoming an artist.
He was also peeved Germany lost WW1 and had to pay heavily for it.
Then for some dumb reason, or mass hypnosis, or both the greater German population supported him and his brand of thugs.
So, again he brought war onto the world.
His navy was no match for the British Empire.
In fact the allies outnumbered the nazis to a point if they collectively acted would've stomped the life out of them.
But fruitcake Hitler had an ace up his sleeve- called Blitzkrieg which no u-boat had a part to play- only armor and aircraft.
That coupled with some feeble-minded let's not act hastily allied commanders caused the nazis to steam roll their way over Europe.
But like I said before, numbers were on the Allied side and no way in hell no matter how many unterseebooten he had or any other secret weapons could not hide the fact that Germany didn't have a snowball in hell chance of winning.
And with that I Thank God and hope that no other nutcase came again.

And u-boats didn't cost Germany the war. It was just a small part of the whole. It was a fruity-flavored Austrian named Hitler and his loony henchmen.

Everybody say AMEN!

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Old 01-29-08, 05:12 PM   #168
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Old 01-29-08, 05:35 PM   #169
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But like I said before, numbers were on the Allied side and no way in hell no matter how many unterseebooten he had or any other secret weapons could not hide the fact that Germany didn't have a snowball in hell chance of winning.
A fine restatement of my case! It's oversimplified, but it will do. Unterseebooten had no function to serve that would advance Germany's chance to win the very limited (if you call taking the continent of Europe only limited) objects which were actually within reach of such an outgunned country as Germany. The nutcase was never rationally weighing possibilities and taking calculated risks. He never stooped to acting in Germany's self-interest at all.
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