[REL] Rik007: SH-3 Night surface attack project [REL]

[kyle9154]

Hey Rik, every since the latest Windows 11 update your mod now doesn't work, I tested with just yours loaded early part of the war and crashes but I can load the rest of my mods together fine. I think it has something to do with win 11 new update not recognizing the .dll files inside or something along those lines.

[FUBAR295]

Originally Posted by kyle9154

Hey Rik, every since the latest Windows 11 update your mod now doesn't work, I tested with just yours loaded early part of the war and crashes but I can load the rest of my mods together fine. I think it has something to do with win 11 new update not recognizing the .dll files inside or something along those lines.

Running Win 11 and have not experienced what you have described.


Good hunting,
FUBAR295

[kyle9154]

Originally Posted by FUBAR295

Running Win 11 and have not experienced what you have described.


Good hunting,
FUBAR295

I reverted back to previous windows build and all is fine now, seems the very latest win 11 update does something.

[rik007]

I installed windows 11 and the updates and I was able to reproduce the issue Kyle is having.

The update which conflicts is:

024-KB5044030 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8.1 for Windows 11, version 24H2

@Kyle: is that correct?

For some reason the basis fread function doesnot return the proper number of bytes just read. I fixed it so will now test it. Next weekend I hope to publish it.

[FUBAR295]

Originally Posted by rik007

I installed windows 11 and the updates and I was able to reproduce the issue Kyle is having.

The update which conflicts is:

024-KB5044030 Cumulative Update for .NET Framework 3.5 and 4.8.1 for Windows 11, version 24H2

@Kyle: is that correct?

For some reason the basis read function does not return the proper number of bytes just read. I fixed it so will now test it. Next weekend I hope to publish it.

Checked my updates and did not see KB5044030 as being installed. I do have KB5044033 being installed on Nov 9th. Wonder if this was MS's fix. Still will take a copy of your fix.

[rik007]

Originally Posted by FUBAR295

Checked my updates and did not see KB5044030 as being installed. I do have KB5044033 being installed on Nov 9th. Wonder if this was MS's fix. Still will take a copy of your fix.

It looks like KB5044030 and KB5044033 are the same but target different windows 11 versions (KB5044033=22H/23H, KB5044030=24H) ... So maybe the issue occurs with KB5044030 and not with KB5044033.

I noticed that it gave back a wrong value. Which means it either will point to an invalid address (= ctd) or overwriting an incorrect memory location ......

[JohnCarterOfMars]

Hi, Rik.

Another question for you. Can you please clarify your slide 6 in the installation guide regarding the weather choices? I'm confused at what's really going on.

The slide says:

To make this clear find below the valid combinations as per original documentation Hsie’s/Stiebler:

1. You want HSie's wheather fix? In HsieOptionsSelector_V16C : Bad Wheather fix: Off + envSim comes default when you enable “SH-5 Moon mod”.

2. You want Stiebler's wheather fix? In HsieOptionsSelector_V16C : Bad Wheather fix: On + enable “Stiebler's wheather fix”

First, can you give me a summary of what each "weather fix" does, h.sie versus Stiebler?

Second, the description in the slide seems counter-intuitive to me.

The HSieOptionsSelector opens a choice of HSie options. There is a button at the bottom to open up a second set of options, the Stiebler Mods.

The Bad Weather Fix is an HSie option, and there is no Bad Weather choice in the Stiebler Mods section.

However, you say that if I want the HSie Weather Fix, I have to turn it OFF in the HSie weather option?

If I want the Stiebler Weather Fix, I have to turn the HSie Weather Fix ON in the HSieOptionsSelector and then add the "SH-5 Moon Mod option - Stiebler's wheather fix" mod to my mod stack?

Please explain to a confused player...

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On further consideration, I think I figured out what you are really saying. Let me put it down my way and you can tell me if this is really what is going on.

1. The h.sie weather fix is already included in the OneAlex mod, so turning it on does nothing in the HSieOptionsSelector. It will be installed whether the option is on or off.

2. You are "tricking" the system into running the Stiebler weather fix by turning ON the h.sie weather fix in the options (which patches the SH3.exe) but overlaying the Stiebler EnvSim.act in place of the h.sie one.

Is this what is really happening?

Thanks in advance.

[rik007]

Hi John,

This is indeed a confusing part of the Hsie/Stiebler wheather fixes. To make each of them work the following must be done:

1. Correct choice of the switch in the HSieOptionsSelector (I assume this activates hardcode fixes in sh3.exe)
2. Overlay (install) the corresponding envSim.act (this contains the changed sh3 wheather logic in EnvSim.act)

So it is not enough to just switch wheather on/of in the HSieOptionsSelector. You have to install ('overlay') the corresponding EnvSim.act.

With OneAlex (and Fifi's) the hsie wheather fix is already overlayed: So the switch is already off and the corresponding EnvSim.act is already included. So 'standard' hsie is activated with OneAlex and Fifi's as it is more popular. So that is why I standard include the patched envSim.act in the SH-5 Moon mod for hsie as well. So in case you use hsie's wheather fix you do not have to do anything in the HsieOptionsSelector.

So to come back to your statements:
1. The h.sie weather fix is already included in the OneAlex mod, so turning it on does nothing in the HSieOptionsSelector -> Correct: for the moon mod you do not need to do anything in the HSieOptionsSelector as it is already hsie.
2. You are "tricking" the system into running the Stiebler weather fix by turning ON the h.sie weather fix in the options (which patches the SH3.exe) but overlaying the Stiebler EnvSim.act in place of the h.sie one -> correct: with the addition that you overlay the Stiebler EnvSim.act yourself (the switch does not do that)

What I think is confusing
Stiebler wrote the HSieOptionSelector. So the wheather switch on means activate hardcode fixes in sh3.exe for Stiebler's. So off means hsie.

I hope this helps!

Regards,

Rik

[JohnCarterOfMars]

Hi, Rik.

Thanks for replying. You helped me a lot.

When you say:

with the addition that you overlay the Stiebler EnvSim.act yourself (the switch does not do that)

...you mean that I have to install the "SH-5 Moon Mod option - Stiebler's wheather fix" using the JSGME program, right?

I also did some research into the two weather approaches, but I can't decide on the one that I prefer.

Stiebler's post says that the h.sie fix creates more long-lasting rough seas because it doesn't fix a bug in the weather code in the stock game.

Stiebler says that his fix cannot fix the bug either, but he added another weather counter to counteract the buggy counter in the game.

I hadn't seen that the h.sie weather fix was the more popular one, so I'm going to try the Stiebler weather fix for now.

Regards,
John

[rik007]

Hi John,

Yes! You have to enable "SH-5 Moon mod optional - Stiebler's wheather fix" and in the HSieOptionsSelector you have to switch the wheather fix on.

I'm looking forward which of the two you prefer

Regards,

Rik

[Doolar]

I was a tad confused too in this area. I didn't mind the defualt weather with the stock H.Sie.

so now .... if I choose to use Stiebler's wheather fix, all I haf to do is to enable "SH-5 Moon mod optional - Stiebler's wheather fix" Via JSGME and in the HSieOptionsSelector switch the wheather fix on.

[JohnCarterOfMars]

Originally Posted by Doolar

I was a tad confused too in this area. I didn't mind the defualt weather with the stock H.Sie.

so now .... if I choose to use Stiebler's wheather fix, all I haf to do is to enable "SH-5 Moon mod optional - Stiebler's wheather fix" Via JSGME and in the HSieOptionsSelector switch the wheather fix on.

Yes. Remember that the HSieOptionsSelector patches the copy of SH3.exe that's in the Stiebler folder. You must copy your main SH3.exe to the Stiebler folder, patch it via the options selector, and then copy the patched SH3.exe back to the main game folder.

Make backup copies first.

John

[rik007]

Hi all,

Please find the fix for Windows 11 KB5044030 or KB5044033 here:

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...06&postcount=1

This fix also contains improved handling of the environment date bug.

[FUBAR295]

[Dieselglock]

Originally Posted by rik007

Hi all,

Please find the fix for Windows 11 KB5044030 or KB5044033 here:

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...06&postcount=1

This fix also contains improved handling of the environment date bug.

Thanks for the fix. Do you have to be in port to enable ?