Malaysia airlines B777 missing - Page 11

TarJak · 04-05-14, 10:41 PM

Joint search command are holding a media conference right now announcing the reports from the Chinese news agencies are not yet verified but that the signal has been picked up a second time within 2km of the original signal.

Additionally white floating objects have been sighted about 90 km from where the signal was first picked up.

RAAF and RAN assets are being deployed to the new search area.

Apparently the RAN vessel Ocean Shield is investigating another acoustic event 300NM away from the Chinese vessel.

EDIT: ABC News report: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-0...igated/5370558

TarJak · 04-06-14, 03:26 PM

None of that makes any sense.

CCIP · 04-06-14, 05:26 PM

And what technology is that which can do all of these things, praytell?

the difficult word there is "probably". I'd word it more as "improbably" because there's no real technological basis to make that claim.

Herr-Berbunch · 04-06-14, 05:50 PM

I think the guy is under the assumption that the western (and southern!) world has the whole world under radar/satellite surveillance, every square inch, but the tech used isn't shouted about but prolly along the lines of BMEWS.

If one of those countries did have the tech, and they did know, there are ways of incorporating that information provided into other means to share with the world, and not wait this long and spend this money.

August · 04-06-14, 06:28 PM

If tipping our technical hand was a concern then it seems to me it'd be pretty easy to fake a lucky find by the aircraft and ships we have in the area already.

CCIP · 04-06-14, 07:27 PM

Well there are some people suggesting that if - and that's a big if - this latest purported pinger signal find by the Chinese leads to the plane being found, it could be because they knew a lot more than they were letting on.

See how this one plays out I guess.

Admiral Halsey · 04-06-14, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by August

If tipping our technical hand was a concern then it seems to me it'd be pretty easy to fake a lucky find by the aircraft and ships we have in the area already.

Exactly. It'd be quite easy for even North Korea to do something like that.

TarJak · 04-07-14, 04:10 AM

Ocean Shield detects signals in search for MH370 http://ab.co/1sqELFP

Sounds like the best lead yet.

magic452 · 04-07-14, 04:34 AM

Sounds encouraging. If they don't find it soon it may be years before they do.

Magic

guntherprien · 04-08-14, 01:22 PM

I find it hard to believe that any major powers', hi tech submarine, didn't pick anything up.
These subs can pick up anomolous sounds a continent away.
The intelligence services know exactly where the plane is,but can't reveal due to security reasons.
I know this sounds conspiracy bs,but my friend of a friend of a friend.ad infinitum,wink,wink,serves on SSN's and he has told me things that would make your hair curl. 'Nuff said

mapuc · 04-08-14, 01:54 PM

That's one of the conspirators biggest problem... the lack of knowledge about certain things

A sub( just to take something) who may be around North Korea can't hear what happens many hundred miles away.

And should there have been a American sub in that area of the vanishing/crash, I know the information would be handed through the diplomatically or civilians channels, to the the legitimate authorities

I have seen a lot of pictures on Facebook- They can read the newspaper laying on the street, but they can't find a simple huge airplane-

Yes they could if they had a satellite in that specific area.( the nearest should be around North Korea and the chinese sea and from what I have learned these satellite haven't so much widespread area of seeing, but USA is planning to send some very advanced satellite into orbit.

http://www.aviationweek.com/Blogs.as...1-8fe5d25a485d

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Markus

Platapus · 04-08-14, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

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Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Markus

The problem is that people who know about such things know better than to comment on the Internets Tubes

The people who would comment on the Internets Tubes probably don't really know.

Penguin · 04-08-14, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc

That's one of the conspirators biggest problem... the lack of knowledge about certain things

A sub( just to take something) who may be around North Korea can't hear what happens many hundred miles away.

Lack of knowledge is a problem which can be solved. A confirmation bias is harder.
Those people underestimate the size of the area, overestimate the state of our technology and have a blatent disregard for physical laws. Even unlimited funds can't compensate the latter.

A sub around NK might be able to pick up noises from the search area, but certainly not a signal from the black box's beacon.

scorpiondown · 04-07-14, 08:05 AM

whether you want to believe that the US has the WHOLE world under surveillance or not is up to you....I wouldn,t bet against it after recent things have been revealed..As for the technology ,,better believe it! 1984 is here!Ask those terrorists in the middle of nowhere if they believe it..Oh sorry, they can,t answer because of that drone hellfire that atomized them! Us a cell phone and you are pin-pointed if they are looking for you..think anyone on that plane tried to use their phones?

Flamebatter90 · 04-07-14, 08:57 AM

Spotting potential bad guys in a hot zone, buzzing with drones is abit different from spotting an airliner in the middle of an ocean.

Using cellphones would have done little good as they were a) flying high up and b) in the middle of an ocean.

04-05-14, 10:41 PM	#1
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Joint search command are holding a media conference right now announcing the reports from the Chinese news agencies are not yet verified but that the signal has been picked up a second time within 2km of the original signal. Additionally white floating objects have been sighted about 90 km from where the signal was first picked up. RAAF and RAN assets are being deployed to the new search area. Apparently the RAN vessel Ocean Shield is investigating another acoustic event 300NM away from the Chinese vessel. EDIT: ABC News report: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-0...igated/5370558 Last edited by TarJak; 04-06-14 at 05:08 AM.

04-06-14, 05:26 PM	#3
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	And what technology is that which can do all of these things, praytell? the difficult word there is "probably". I'd word it more as "improbably" because there's no real technological basis to make that claim. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

04-06-14, 05:50 PM	#4
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	I think the guy is under the assumption that the western (and southern!) world has the whole world under radar/satellite surveillance, every square inch, but the tech used isn't shouted about but prolly along the lines of BMEWS. If one of those countries did have the tech, and they did know, there are ways of incorporating that information provided into other means to share with the world, and not wait this long and spend this money. __________________

04-06-14, 06:28 PM	#5
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,226 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	If tipping our technical hand was a concern then it seems to me it'd be pretty easy to fake a lucky find by the aircraft and ships we have in the area already. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

04-06-14, 07:27 PM	#6
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Well there are some people suggesting that if - and that's a big if - this latest purported pinger signal find by the Chinese leads to the plane being found, it could be because they knew a lot more than they were letting on. See how this one plays out I guess. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

04-06-14, 03:26 PM	#2
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	None of that makes any sense.

04-07-14, 04:10 AM	#8
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Ocean Shield detects signals in search for MH370 http://ab.co/1sqELFP Sounds like the best lead yet.

04-07-14, 04:34 AM	#9
magic452 Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Reno Nevada USA Posts: 1,860 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Sounds encouraging. If they don't find it soon it may be years before they do. Magic __________________ Reported lost 11 Feb. 1942 Signature by depthtok33l

04-08-14, 01:22 PM	#10
guntherprien Hand rag Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 85 Downloads: 170 Uploads: 0	I find it hard to believe that any major powers', hi tech submarine, didn't pick anything up. These subs can pick up anomolous sounds a continent away. The intelligence services know exactly where the plane is,but can't reveal due to security reasons. I know this sounds conspiracy bs,but my friend of a friend of a friend.ad infinitum,wink,wink,serves on SSN's and he has told me things that would make your hair curl. 'Nuff said

04-08-14, 01:54 PM	#11
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,553 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	That's one of the conspirators biggest problem... the lack of knowledge about certain things A sub( just to take something) who may be around North Korea can't hear what happens many hundred miles away. And should there have been a American sub in that area of the vanishing/crash, I know the information would be handed through the diplomatically or civilians channels, to the the legitimate authorities I have seen a lot of pictures on Facebook- They can read the newspaper laying on the street, but they can't find a simple huge airplane- Yes they could if they had a satellite in that specific area.( the nearest should be around North Korea and the chinese sea and from what I have learned these satellite haven't so much widespread area of seeing, but USA is planning to send some very advanced satellite into orbit. http://www.aviationweek.com/Blogs.as...1-8fe5d25a485d Please correct me if I'm wrong. Markus

04-07-14, 08:05 AM	#14
scorpiondown Electrician's Mate Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: near Pittsburgh pa. and Daytona Posts: 131 Downloads: 107 Uploads: 0	whether you want to believe that the US has the WHOLE world under surveillance or not is up to you....I wouldn,t bet against it after recent things have been revealed..As for the technology ,,better believe it! 1984 is here!Ask those terrorists in the middle of nowhere if they believe it..Oh sorry, they can,t answer because of that drone hellfire that atomized them! Us a cell phone and you are pin-pointed if they are looking for you..think anyone on that plane tried to use their phones?

04-07-14, 08:57 AM	#15
Flamebatter90 Medic Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 167 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Spotting potential bad guys in a hot zone, buzzing with drones is abit different from spotting an airliner in the middle of an ocean. Using cellphones would have done little good as they were a) flying high up and b) in the middle of an ocean.