[TEC]GR2 files and Granny Viewer - Page 11

kylania · 05-31-10, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ailantd

they can see it like a problem as we could be competence for future projects they could release based in SH5. maby we should also aks Ubi about that before purchase any granny license.

Seeing as Ubisoft hasn't said anything at all since the game came out, and by all observations has entirely abandoned the Silent Hunter series (I'm still waiting for anyone from Ubisoft to refute that...) we could probably finish the game and they wouldn't even notice.

05-31-10, 03:36 PM

Ubi has been asked in several ways.
We get no real answer.
If we could own and use Granny to do mods for SH5?
I doubt Ubi would care!
They would not be paying $12,500 or so,
and it would only drive sales!

Ubi wins by just staying silent.
Which is right up thier alley.

We, as ardent Silent Hunter supporters and legal owners,
have been raped in a way that should paint a scarlet letter on foreheads!

We are looking for a legal and honorable way to continue what we do.
Should Ubi say no at this point?
They stand to loose WAY more money.

And money is what drives them!
Users can make or destroy a Company.

And right now?
The feeling in America is not to good for foriegn companies!
BP is the prime example.
I use to stop at one everyday for coffee and gas.
I no longer go there.
I go out of my way now.
I also stopped further orders of any Ubi Games.
And I know many just local people that have done the same.

Ailantd · 05-31-10, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kylania

Seeing as Ubisoft hasn't said anything at all since the game came out, and by all observations has entirely abandoned the Silent Hunter series (I'm still waiting for anyone from Ubisoft to refute that...) we could probably finish the game and they wouldn't even notice.

Even in that case. For example Ms closed the FS series but not let developers continue it in their own as they ask. A company can discontinue a game series but not to renunce to possible profits from the franchise. I hope you are right, but I don´t see Ubi let us make a really good game from SH5 and maby covering all possible expansions they could do in the future, even it they dont plan to do it and don't say nothing. Again hope you are right XD

05-31-10, 04:07 PM

After years,
Ubi released a fix for StarForce.
It was the Reloaded crack!
Then they actually released non-StarForce DVD's!
Those DVD's and the files, pre-date StarForce stuff!

To actually give Ubi any credit for being honest?
That's probably the biggest joke we have all lived with for what?
Better then 5 years?
They laughed all the way to the bank my friend!
And they used all of us in the meantime!

They also used the Devs just as they used us!
We are all just mere players.

I lost my devotion to Ubi with SH5.
Not my devotion to the Devs, mind you.
I still believe they intended much more.
But I still reserve the right to question them.

A perfect World would see me hitting the Lottery,
Hireing the Romanian Devs and many Modders,
and createing the Utimate SubSim!

In the meantime?
I don't give up but look for answers!
Whatever that takes?
I still look!

haegemon · 05-31-10, 09:03 PM

This community is so active it don't needs the game , if it only could have a game engine under GNU licence to upload it with data would be no complains anymore, never. Sadly few people is abble to work in an engine and it's a hard task. I only know it from a flight simulator (FlightGear) community. So by now Ubi soft is the best we can get.

deathwest · 06-01-10, 10:41 PM

So we wait and see what Granny has to say.
Come on Grannnnyy.

06-01-10, 10:54 PM

We wait and see what RAD has to say after they contact Ubi I'd think.
I've looked at many Games useing Granny.
Most have a custom build process that will not allow
a Stock build of Granny to work in those Games.
I see nothing of the sort in SH5.
It's a wide open, bone stock from RAD, implementation,
as far as what I can see.
That could cause problems.

06-02-10, 07:51 PM

The Official responce from RAD Games.
************************************
Hi, Jeff, this is Jeff from RAD!

We'd probably wouldn't license a group of people, since there are no legal protections or anything (I mean, who would even sign the contract? <grin>). So, if you wanted to do this, you'd have to start an official company before we could start talking about a license

In any case, though, I believe Ubisoft used a customized version of Granny in Silent Hunter, so I don't think a Granny license would help - that, is you'd still need a bunch of custom code from Ubisoft.

Really, the right way for this to happen is for Ubisoft to get a source license for our exporter, and then modify it to write out Silent Hunter data files specifically...

Thanks,

->Jeff
RAD Game Tools

************************************************** **

So the ball is in Ubi's court?
Not really if you look at the seeming facts.
They have no source License from this information.
And I'd doubt they would buy one.
So that option is out.
I do doubt that statement of a customized version.
I know better then that!
A Company, not a Group, with someone to sign a deal?
Can be done.

It comes down to this.
Who owns a Company that all of us trust?
Or do we start a new Company?
Who selects the people that have access to the Software?
Can we really raise the money required?
$12,500 is not an amount that happens over nite!
Is this an effort that is worth even starting?
Given that SubSim did a Major work for SH2?
I'd say let's show it could be done again for SH5!

THE_MASK · 06-02-10, 07:58 PM

What does Neal think about it .

06-02-10, 08:07 PM

Until all options are baked?
I'd not bother Neal.
He see's all this.
If he had a comment he'd post.
Most likely?
He's wondering if I'm at the Flying Saucer in Houston!

Jimbuna · 06-03-10, 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer

Most likely?
He's wondering if I'm at the Flying Saucer in Houston!

Beat me to it

Bloody time zones

06-03-10, 06:36 PM

Look familiar?

Jimbuna · 06-04-10, 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer

Look familiar?

Oh yeah....I still don't understand people eating chips/fries with a coating of melted cheese over the top whist drinking beer though

06-04-10, 06:48 PM

Well, It's kind of like Fish and chips with Cheese.
Except there's no fish.
(Nasty non-air breathing creatures!)

deathwest · 06-04-10, 09:06 PM

I own a LLC. http://wandwelectricalservicesllc.vpweb.com/
Only have 3 ppl that work for me and I still work for another
company as a Surveyor so my time is vary limited.

You are welcome to use this LLC if needed.

So the ball is in Ubi's court? is there any hope?

06-04-10, 09:06 PM	#165
deathwest Watch Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Marble PA. USA Posts: 28 Downloads: 183 Uploads: 0	I own a LLC. http://wandwelectricalservicesllc.vpweb.com/ Only have 3 ppl that work for me and I still work for another company as a Surveyor so my time is vary limited. You are welcome to use this LLC if needed. So the ball is in Ubi's court? is there any hope? __________________

05-31-10, 03:36 PM	#152
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Ubi has been asked in several ways. We get no real answer. If we could own and use Granny to do mods for SH5? I doubt Ubi would care! They would not be paying $12,500 or so, and it would only drive sales! Ubi wins by just staying silent. Which is right up thier alley. We, as ardent Silent Hunter supporters and legal owners, have been raped in a way that should paint a scarlet letter on foreheads! We are looking for a legal and honorable way to continue what we do. Should Ubi say no at this point? They stand to loose WAY more money. And money is what drives them! Users can make or destroy a Company. And right now? The feeling in America is not to good for foriegn companies! BP is the prime example. I use to stop at one everyday for coffee and gas. I no longer go there. I go out of my way now. I also stopped further orders of any Ubi Games. And I know many just local people that have done the same.

05-31-10, 04:07 PM	#154
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	After years, Ubi released a fix for StarForce. It was the Reloaded crack! Then they actually released non-StarForce DVD's! Those DVD's and the files, pre-date StarForce stuff! To actually give Ubi any credit for being honest? That's probably the biggest joke we have all lived with for what? Better then 5 years? They laughed all the way to the bank my friend! And they used all of us in the meantime! They also used the Devs just as they used us! We are all just mere players. I lost my devotion to Ubi with SH5. Not my devotion to the Devs, mind you. I still believe they intended much more. But I still reserve the right to question them. A perfect World would see me hitting the Lottery, Hireing the Romanian Devs and many Modders, and createing the Utimate SubSim! In the meantime? I don't give up but look for answers! Whatever that takes? I still look!

05-31-10, 09:03 PM	#155
haegemon Medic Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 165 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	This community is so active it don't needs the game , if it only could have a game engine under GNU licence to upload it with data would be no complains anymore, never. Sadly few people is abble to work in an engine and it's a hard task. I only know it from a flight simulator (FlightGear) community. So by now Ubi soft is the best we can get.

06-01-10, 10:41 PM	#156
deathwest Watch Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Marble PA. USA Posts: 28 Downloads: 183 Uploads: 0	So we wait and see what Granny has to say. Come on Grannnnyy.

06-01-10, 10:54 PM	#157
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	We wait and see what RAD has to say after they contact Ubi I'd think. I've looked at many Games useing Granny. Most have a custom build process that will not allow a Stock build of Granny to work in those Games. I see nothing of the sort in SH5. It's a wide open, bone stock from RAD, implementation, as far as what I can see. That could cause problems.

06-02-10, 07:51 PM	#158
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	The Official responce from RAD Games. ********************************** Hi, Jeff, this is Jeff from RAD! We'd probably wouldn't license a group of people, since there are no legal protections or anything (I mean, who would even sign the contract? <grin>). So, if you wanted to do this, you'd have to start an official company before we could start talking about a license In any case, though, I believe Ubisoft used a customized version of Granny in Silent Hunter, so I don't think a Granny license would help - that, is you'd still need a bunch of custom code from Ubisoft. Really, the right way for this to happen is for Ubisoft to get a source license for our exporter, and then modify it to write out Silent Hunter data files specifically... Thanks, ->Jeff RAD Game Tools ********************************************** So the ball is in Ubi's court? Not really if you look at the seeming facts. They have no source License from this information. And I'd doubt they would buy one. So that option is out. I do doubt that statement of a customized version. I know better then that! A Company, not a Group, with someone to sign a deal? Can be done. It comes down to this. Who owns a Company that all of us trust? Or do we start a new Company? Who selects the people that have access to the Software? Can we really raise the money required? $12,500 is not an amount that happens over nite! Is this an effort that is worth even starting? Given that SubSim did a Major work for SH2? I'd say let's show it could be done again for SH5!

06-02-10, 07:58 PM	#159
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	What does Neal think about it .

06-02-10, 08:07 PM	#160
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Until all options are baked? I'd not bother Neal. He see's all this. If he had a comment he'd post. Most likely? He's wondering if I'm at the Flying Saucer in Houston!

06-03-10, 06:36 PM	#162
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Look familiar?

06-04-10, 06:48 PM	#164
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Well, It's kind of like Fish and chips with Cheese. Except there's no fish. (Nasty non-air breathing creatures!)