Nation States 2

[Raptor1]

The purpose of this alliance is not to entrench itself in huge legislative barriers, you need to let it function efficiently

Bah, useless democracies...

[JALU3]

If this alliance does not take it self seriously, what is its point?

Raptor, you had stated before that you do not want legislation being passed without a majority of member nations, thus the legislation that was passed, and written by myself, created such a rule, and abolished all previous alliance laws that didn't go through the new rules, thus providing the alliance a clean slate.

[Raptor1]

Originally Posted by JALU3

If this alliance does not take it self seriously, what is its point?

Raptor, you had stated before that you do not want legislation being passed without a majority of member nations, thus the legislation that was passed, and written by myself, created such a rule, and abolished all previous alliance laws that didn't go through the new rules, thus providing the alliance a clean slate.

Yes, I agree with that part, but not with practically all of the rest of that law, there's no need to nullify other laws which were passed by a majority, there's no need to remove the alliance offices, and there's certainly no need to deliberate a law before it's put to a vote...

[UnderseaLcpl]

Raptor, you seem to be under the impression that the Subsim Alliance act is null and void because it did not meet its' own half+1 voting criterion. That is simply not true. It passed under what was an acceptable system at the time, so it grandfather clauses itself.

That said, I also think there is also a need to deliberate laws before they are put to a vote. Allowing members time to discuss and amend a law before voting on it is both more effective and efficient than simply having everyone vote against everything because there is some small part of it they do not like. If JALU's last bill had been devised under such a system, you might have had the opportunity to change it.

If you are really worried about legislative barriers, you should be supporting JALU's attempts at drafting proper laws. Open-ended legislation like this missile defense thing is wide open to exploitation of all types, including the appropriation of a certain nation's ballistic missiles to be repurposed for missile defense.

[Raptor1]

Bah, you democracies lack understanding...

Oh, and you're welcome to use my ICBMs any way you wish as long as you pay for them, there's plenty enough for missile defense and complete nuclear annihilation

[Raptor1]

Reports from Northwestern Bigfootia indicates everything necessary to produce and launch nuclear weapons has been perfected, enriched uranium will now be exported to the highest bidder...

[Stealth Hunter]

Originally Posted by raptor1

reports from northwestern bigfootia indicates everything necessary to produce and launch nuclear weapons has been perfected, enriched uranium will now be exported to the highest bidder...

I'LL GIVE YOU SIX MILLION PESOS!

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[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Raptor1

Reports from Northwestern Bigfootia indicates everything necessary to produce and launch nuclear weapons has been perfected, enriched uranium will now be exported to the highest bidder...

ICBMs are expensive, in the Holy Empire of Wotsitstania, we fall back on tried and tested methods:



"My truck is loaded!"

[Raptor1]

Economic Freedoms now at "Excessive"

You are not allowed to sneeze in Northwestern Bigfootia, but go ahead and open a sneeze factory!

Top that, democracies (Especially you, Mr. Capitalist Paradise)

[UnderseaLcpl]

I'd say I'm topping it quite nicely. My gdp is 10 million higher than yours and I only have half as many indutries as you do. It's just a matter of time before I get some more industry issues and then I'll be leaving you in the dust

[Task Force]

And he has nukes... he could make you country go BOOM!

[Raptor1]

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

I'd say I'm topping it quite nicely. My gdp is 10 million higher than yours and I only have half as many indutries as you do. It's just a matter of time before I get some more industry issues and then I'll be leaving you in the dust

Not the GDP, the economic freedom! You silly democracies pride yourself in all that sort of "freedom" nonsense after all...

Either way, much of my industries are counter-productive, preventing the progress of others and bringing the GDP overall. IMO it's better to have a small amount of large industries. (Also military and police spending is huge, you can guess why)

But then, to get economic freedoms, I have to consent to every whim of the neighbourhood capitalists, so I get this many industries...

[UnderseaLcpl]

The difference between your economy and mine is that while we both choose pro-industry legislation, I never endorse any legislation that subsidizes industries. My country actually has more economic freedom than yours because the state doesn't pick winners, allowing everyone to compete fairly.
What good is prosperity if no one gets to enjoy it?

[Raptor1]

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

The difference between your economy and mine is that while we both choose pro-industry legislation, I never endorse any legislation that subsidizes industries. My country actually has more economic freedom than yours because the state doesn't pick winners, allowing everyone to compete fairly.
What good is prosperity if no one gets to enjoy it?

I never subsidize industries, I just force the population to be good capitalists, and the rest of the population to buy their products...

[UnderseaLcpl]

I don't force anyone to do anything so Neuropa is still more free.
And you did subsidize the media once, but I have to admit that I didn't see much else. Nice work!