GWX2 - RealWeatherFix Mod - Page 11

Philipp_Thomsen · 03-19-08, 12:54 PM

Isn't the bad weather stuck for weeks when you go on a high TC? Like there's no enemy airplanes if you're using 1024x TC, also could be NO WEATHER CHANGE if you're going on a 1024x TC. Coz for me, every time I go on a 1024x TC to cross the atlantic, I have a good weather just before activating TC and when I go back to 1x, also good weather there, doesn't matter how long did I went into the atlantic, and this has always been like this, since I've started playing GWX.

Maybe the weather changes just if you're using less then 256x.

Anybody knows something about this?

Jimbuna · 03-19-08, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen

Isn't the bad weather stuck for weeks when you go on a high TC? Like there's no enemy airplanes if you're using 1024x TC, also could be NO WEATHER CHANGE if you're going on a 1024x TC. Coz for me, every time I go on a 1024x TC to cross the atlantic, I have a good weather just before activating TC and when I go back to 1x, also good weather there, doesn't matter how long did I went into the atlantic, and this has always been like this, since I've started playing GWX.

Maybe the weather changes just if you're using less then 256x.

Anybody knows something about this?

There is nothing to support the theory that tc affects the weather

KeldorKatarn · 03-19-08, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen

Isn't the bad weather stuck for weeks when you go on a high TC? Like there's no enemy airplanes if you're using 1024x TC, also could be NO WEATHER CHANGE if you're going on a 1024x TC. Coz for me, every time I go on a 1024x TC to cross the atlantic, I have a good weather just before activating TC and when I go back to 1x, also good weather there, doesn't matter how long did I went into the atlantic, and this has always been like this, since I've started playing GWX.

Maybe the weather changes just if you're using less then 256x.

Anybody knows something about this?

There is nothing to support the theory that tc affects the weather

Agreed. I usually run on 1024, sometimes 512, and I've seen weather changes all over. I have a 3 page KTB full of weather changes (sadly only one sinking though :P)

Philipp_Thomsen · 03-19-08, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen

Isn't the bad weather stuck for weeks when you go on a high TC? Like there's no enemy airplanes if you're using 1024x TC, also could be NO WEATHER CHANGE if you're going on a 1024x TC. Coz for me, every time I go on a 1024x TC to cross the atlantic, I have a good weather just before activating TC and when I go back to 1x, also good weather there, doesn't matter how long did I went into the atlantic, and this has always been like this, since I've started playing GWX.

Maybe the weather changes just if you're using less then 256x.

Anybody knows something about this?

There is nothing to support the theory that tc affects the weather

And there's something to support that tc DONT affects weather?

Jimbuna · 03-19-08, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

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Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen

Isn't the bad weather stuck for weeks when you go on a high TC? Like there's no enemy airplanes if you're using 1024x TC, also could be NO WEATHER CHANGE if you're going on a 1024x TC. Coz for me, every time I go on a 1024x TC to cross the atlantic, I have a good weather just before activating TC and when I go back to 1x, also good weather there, doesn't matter how long did I went into the atlantic, and this has always been like this, since I've started playing GWX.

Maybe the weather changes just if you're using less then 256x.

Anybody knows something about this?

There is nothing to support the theory that tc affects the weather

And there's something to support that tc DONT affects weather?

Hmm....a logical conclusion

Righteo.....I'll fight you over who is right......electrics or steamers. You choose

Philipp_Thomsen · 03-19-08, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

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Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

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Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen

Isn't the bad weather stuck for weeks when you go on a high TC? Like there's no enemy airplanes if you're using 1024x TC, also could be NO WEATHER CHANGE if you're going on a 1024x TC. Coz for me, every time I go on a 1024x TC to cross the atlantic, I have a good weather just before activating TC and when I go back to 1x, also good weather there, doesn't matter how long did I went into the atlantic, and this has always been like this, since I've started playing GWX.

Maybe the weather changes just if you're using less then 256x.

Anybody knows something about this?

There is nothing to support the theory that tc affects the weather

And there's something to support that tc DONT affects weather?

Hmm....a logical conclusion

Righteo.....I'll fight you over who is right......electrics or steamers. You choose

Are you telling me that you are absolutely 100% sure that there's not a tyne little chance of weather changes and time compression be related?

Jimbuna · 03-19-08, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

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Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

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Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen

Isn't the bad weather stuck for weeks when you go on a high TC? Like there's no enemy airplanes if you're using 1024x TC, also could be NO WEATHER CHANGE if you're going on a 1024x TC. Coz for me, every time I go on a 1024x TC to cross the atlantic, I have a good weather just before activating TC and when I go back to 1x, also good weather there, doesn't matter how long did I went into the atlantic, and this has always been like this, since I've started playing GWX.

Maybe the weather changes just if you're using less then 256x.

Anybody knows something about this?

There is nothing to support the theory that tc affects the weather

And there's something to support that tc DONT affects weather?

Hmm....a logical conclusion

Righteo.....I'll fight you over who is right......electrics or steamers. You choose

Are you telling me that you are absolutely 100% sure that there's not a tyne little chance of weather changes and time compression be related?

Not 100%....but quietly confident

03-19-08, 04:39 PM

Seems to me that 2 hours wasted debateing the question
could have been solved by 2 hours of testing?

But that's just my thought.

Philipp_Thomsen · 03-19-08, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by privateer

Seems to me that 2 hours wasted debateing the question
could have been solved by 2 hours of testing?

But that's just my thought.

More then 2 hours... I've playing for 2 years the game (or more) and everytime I cross the atlantic in 1024x, the weather is the same as I was before going into time compression. All the weather changes I've ever experienced was under 1024x TC. That is actually one of the reasons that I use high time compression. I hate those endless storms.

But again, I could be wrong.

Subtype Zero · 03-19-08, 10:57 PM

Q: Does high TC affect weather changes?

:hmm: Speaking as someone who imagines himself as somewhat as an authority on this issue, I believe the answer to this question is a qualified no, with one BIG exception. During testing of the RWF, I recall observing that at high TC (512 and above), all weather factors still change, with the exception of windspeed! So, while you may get changes in clouds, fog, and precipitation, the wind tends to stay the same.

The rule seems to be that if you are at high TC when the weather undergoes a scripted change, everything changes except the windpseed. To cure this, you have to be at a TC of 256 or below when the weather changes.

Please note that this applies approximately 75% of the time (rough estimation). Also, I have seen the windspeed change at a TC of 512, but only rarely.

Hope this answers the question...or not!

Philipp_Thomsen · 03-19-08, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Subtype Zero

Q: Does high TC affect weather changes?

:hmm: Speaking as someone who imagines himself as somewhat as an authority on this issue, I believe the answer to this question is a qualified no, with one BIG exception. During testing of the RWF, I recall observing that at high TC (512 and above), all weather factors still change, with the exception of windspeed! So, while you may get changes in clouds, fog, and precipitation, the wind tends to stay the same.

The rule seems to be that if you are at high TC when the weather undergoes a scripted change, everything changes except the windpseed. To cure this, you have to be at a TC of 256 or below when the weather changes.

Please note that this applies approximately 75% of the time (rough estimation). Also, I have seen the windspeed change at a TC of 512, but only rarely.

Hope this answers the question...or not!

It answers, coz Im always at 512x or more, and without strong winds theres no storm!

MarkShot · 03-20-08, 08:25 AM

Would it be possible to disable weather changes entirely and simply have weather set and randomized by something like SH3 Commander?

I tend to think that perhaps that would the best solution, since the game engine appears to be quite broken when it comes to weather. Simply remove the weather management entirely from the game engine and make it external.

Thoughts?

Jimbuna · 03-20-08, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen

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Originally Posted by Subtype Zero

Q: Does high TC affect weather changes?

:hmm: Speaking as someone who imagines himself as somewhat as an authority on this issue, I believe the answer to this question is a qualified no, with one BIG exception. During testing of the RWF, I recall observing that at high TC (512 and above), all weather factors still change, with the exception of windspeed! So, while you may get changes in clouds, fog, and precipitation, the wind tends to stay the same.

The rule seems to be that if you are at high TC when the weather undergoes a scripted change, everything changes except the windpseed. To cure this, you have to be at a TC of 256 or below when the weather changes.

Please note that this applies approximately 75% of the time (rough estimation). Also, I have seen the windspeed change at a TC of 512, but only rarely.

Hope this answers the question...or not!

It answers, coz Im always at 512x or more, and without strong winds theres no storm!

Told ya so

KeldorKatarn · 03-20-08, 11:09 AM

I still don't believe this. I always run at 1024 and I've had all sorts of radical weather changes including wind speed going from 4 up to 15, then 13, then 14, then 10, then 7, all within one week.

I really don't think this is related at all.

Capt.Crackerjack · 07-23-08, 10:10 AM

After slogging through this entire thread, it seems that the following is true:

1) This RealWeatherFix mod is now included in GWX2.1?

2) The SH3Weather* program can be run over/within GWX2.1?

*Reasoning behind point 2 is that while RFW basically limits long term storm time periods, SH3Weather actually provides more gradual (realistic) weather changes.

Will someone please confirm the above points?

03-19-08, 12:54 PM	#151
Philipp_Thomsen Old Gang Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Drunk at the whorehouse Posts: 2,278 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Isn't the bad weather stuck for weeks when you go on a high TC? Like there's no enemy airplanes if you're using 1024x TC, also could be NO WEATHER CHANGE if you're going on a 1024x TC. Coz for me, every time I go on a 1024x TC to cross the atlantic, I have a good weather just before activating TC and when I go back to 1x, also good weather there, doesn't matter how long did I went into the atlantic, and this has always been like this, since I've started playing GWX. Maybe the weather changes just if you're using less then 256x. Anybody knows something about this? __________________ To each his own

03-19-08, 10:57 PM	#160
Subtype Zero Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: 19,998 Leagues under the sea Posts: 262 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Q: Does high TC affect weather changes? :hmm: Speaking as someone who imagines himself as somewhat as an authority on this issue, I believe the answer to this question is a qualified no, with one BIG exception. During testing of the RWF, I recall observing that at high TC (512 and above), all weather factors still change, with the exception of windspeed! So, while you may get changes in clouds, fog, and precipitation, the wind tends to stay the same. The rule seems to be that if you are at high TC when the weather undergoes a scripted change, everything changes except the windpseed. To cure this, you have to be at a TC of 256 or below when the weather changes. Please note that this applies approximately 75% of the time (rough estimation). Also, I have seen the windspeed change at a TC of 512, but only rarely. Hope this answers the question...or not! __________________

03-20-08, 08:25 AM	#162
MarkShot Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,134 Downloads: 93 Uploads: 0	Would it be possible to disable weather changes entirely and simply have weather set and randomized by something like SH3 Commander? I tend to think that perhaps that would the best solution, since the game engine appears to be quite broken when it comes to weather. Simply remove the weather management entirely from the game engine and make it external. Thoughts? __________________ War games, not wars! --- Only a small few profit from war (that should not stand)!

07-23-08, 10:10 AM	#165
Capt.Crackerjack Loader Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 84 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	So, This RWF Mod Is In GWX 2.1? Plus: SH3Weather? After slogging through this entire thread, it seems that the following is true: 1) This RealWeatherFix mod is now included in GWX2.1? 2) The SH3Weather* program can be run over/within GWX2.1? *Reasoning behind point 2 is that while RFW basically limits long term storm time periods, SH3Weather actually provides more gradual (realistic) weather changes. Will someone please confirm the above points?

03-19-08, 04:39 PM	#158
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Seems to me that 2 hours wasted debateing the question could have been solved by 2 hours of testing? But that's just my thought.

03-20-08, 11:09 AM	#164
KeldorKatarn Helmsman Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 103 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I still don't believe this. I always run at 1024 and I've had all sorts of radical weather changes including wind speed going from 4 up to 15, then 13, then 14, then 10, then 7, all within one week. I really don't think this is related at all.