[REL] Trigger Maru 1.7.6 (Updated 24Jan08) - Page 11

El-Fish · 12-11-07, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claybirdd

They were dropped as of the last patch. Sorry

Oh no!

Is there any where else I can download the latest version besides Filefront? I need a place that allows me to resume downloads and Filefront does not.

Roads88 · 12-11-07, 10:50 AM

I've done some digging and can't seem to find anything related to it. I believe there is a problem with the TDC. Based on watching the stop watch, the range is showing the target to close. Before the 1.4 patch I had no problem. Now I have problems hitting targets as close at 600 yards.

Does anyone know of a change in patch 1.4 or T.M. that would account for this. I know I'm reaching but I'm at a loss.

Its really taken away from the enjoyment of the game. I may just do another clean intall and go back to 1.3 and an older T.M. but I love the Narwhal.

Fincuan · 12-12-07, 01:40 AM

Haven't noticed anything like that, my torps hit as they used to. Could you elaborate a little, maybe provide some screenshots? Also are you using any other mods that might affect range readings, such as the Manual targeting accuray fix?

Roads88 · 12-23-07, 01:02 AM

Ducimus were did you get those great gauges from your screen shots.

Those are SWEET.

Ducimus · 12-23-07, 02:11 AM

Any textures ive used, aside from the crew textures, are made by oakgroove.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by reallydedpoet

With 1.4 it is the slanted anchor, that is your homebase. I don't think Trigger has affected this.

RDP

Correct. I have not messed with base icons at all. The slanted one is your home base.

jdkbph · 12-26-07, 01:12 PM

Just had myself a little adventure in a Gato, running TM's New Construction career. Actually it's a slight mod of the mod, that allows me to choose a Gato from the 1943 New Construction career.

Anyway, the second part of the first shake down mission has me diving to test depth using the normal dive command whch is supposed to level off the boat automatically at the max rated or "test" depth. However, when the boat kept going right through 300 feet, past 400 and even past 500 feet, I kinda figured something was up.

Checked the Gato.cgf file and, sure enough, the test depth is defined as 210 meters. It should be 90 meters.

So if anyone else experiences a headache or an overall congested feeling when using the dive command in a TM Gato, you might want to make that little adjustment.

JD

Ducimus · 12-26-07, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdkbph

Just had myself a little adventure in a Gato, running TM's New Construction career. Actually it's a slight mod of the mod, that allows me to choose a Gato from the 1943 New Construction career.

Anyway, the second part of the first shake down mission has me diving to test depth using the normal dive command whch is supposed to level off the boat automatically at the max rated or "test" depth. However, when the boat kept going right through 300 feet, past 400 and even past 500 feet, I kinda figured something was up.

Checked the Gato.cgf file and, sure enough, the test depth is defined as 210 meters. It should be 90 meters.

So if anyone else experiences a headache or an overall congested feeling when using the dive command in a TM Gato, you might want to make that little adjustment.

JD

If your running the 1.7.4 patch, this is intentional. I explained this change in said patch's post. You have to manually stop the dive with the A key. The reason for this change is because i adjusted the crush depth to be a little bit deeper then before. How deep? Im not saying! Half the fun of the game is not knowing the exact depth youll crush at. I will say the new crush depth is, within reason, and believable.

jdkbph · 12-26-07, 04:32 PM

Weeeeell... OK. But at 210 meters I was taking damage.

The idea behind the "test" depth - which I think is what's being represented in the CFG file - is that you can go there safely. And of course, as in all properly engineered designs, there would be a margin. That margin (ie, how deep you can actually go without taking damage - and this would most likely vary somewhat from boat to boat) is really what we're talking about here, no? That is very different from "crush depth".

Now I'm not a naval architect (although I've been known to play one on TV), but I do know a thing or three about aerospace structural design and engineering... and it wouldn't surprise me at all if the design margins on these boats were in the 150% range, with catastrophic failure occuring at upwards of 200% load (although that would be extreme, with everything on the high side of nominal).

That said, I don't think you'd want to send a crew down to probe that region between the margins engineered into the design and the point of catastrophic failure. That's a place you'd only want to go if there were no other choice (ie, you're going to die anyway). And if you did go there and come back to talk about it, there would likely be consequences... comprehensive inspection at the least, if not actual damage.

Does this make sense?

JD

Ducimus · 12-26-07, 04:41 PM

Dont look at the CFG file, look at whats in game. Your test depth, is still the test depth. Its just a number you keep in the back of your mind. "ok my test depth is 300 feet",

The trouble with using the CFG in this regard, is the depth gauge stops at 450 feet, when the boat can go deeper. Using the D key is the only way to circumvent this limitation. The problem is, this key fixates on the max depth setting in the cfg. So if your in a balao for example, and you specify a max depth of 400 feet in the cfg file, you will NEVER be able to go to 500 feet, because the D key will always bring you to the number specified in the cfg file, and since the gauge stops at 450.. thats as deep as you go. Your stuck there, even though that boat can quite easily go alot deeper.

jdkbph · 12-26-07, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducimus

The trouble with using the CFG in this regard, is the depth gauge stops at 450 feet, when the boat can go deeper.

Ah... a work around for a game limitation. Gotcha.

Thanks.

JD

iafrate · 12-30-07, 07:39 PM

Is there another way i can d/l TM install file? Filefront keeps saying i dont have permission to d/l it. Thanks

ReallyDedPoet · 12-30-07, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iafrate

Is there another way i can d/l TM install file? Filefront keeps saying i dont have permission to d/l it. Thanks

It was uploaded to an alternative site, but that site has been down for awhile. Maybe try FF again and see what happens. If still a no go maybe somebody here ( with Duci's permission ) can upload it to an alternative site.

By the way, welcome to SUBSIM

RDP

Hawk_345 · 12-31-07, 10:41 AM

Ok i know i just asked this not too long ago, but of course i was not around for a while and a lot has changed so, i want to use TM,ROW,NSM, and RSRDC mods, if they are all compatible with each other, what order should i place the files. A screenshot would be very helpfull if someone has one or a complete list. thanks.

Also i would like to use this mod as well if its not already included with any of the above mods,i have not had the time to read everything yet.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=125556

Gatlin01 · 01-11-08, 05:05 PM

Hi Ducimus, I`ve been using your mod since it was born on SH4. I would like to know which of the ROW`s do you prefer for 1.7.5.
ATM, I have these d/l:
New clouds from killer2
New seafoam from jaketoox
Object reflections and search lights ver 5b
Sky and ocean controls ver 5
Sound effects ver 8
Special effects with stock zones ver 5b
Sub reflections and roll pitch mod ver 5
Textures with Sun Halo camera flair ver 5

Also, I`ve added RSRDC_P2_TM_V221

TopCat · 01-11-08, 05:11 PM

Hi Ducimus

absolutely fabulous ... as always!

Just one question: Is this version 1.7.5 identical to the 1.7.5. Beta that was published before in this forum?

12-11-07, 10:50 AM	#2
Roads88 Sparky Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sacramento CA. Posts: 150 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I've done some digging and can't seem to find anything related to it. I believe there is a problem with the TDC. Based on watching the stop watch, the range is showing the target to close. Before the 1.4 patch I had no problem. Now I have problems hitting targets as close at 600 yards. Does anyone know of a change in patch 1.4 or T.M. that would account for this. I know I'm reaching but I'm at a loss. Its really taken away from the enjoyment of the game. I may just do another clean intall and go back to 1.3 and an older T.M. but I love the Narwhal. __________________ It's useless for sheep to pass resolution after resolution in support of vegetarianism, while wolves maintain a separate opinion.---Unknown Author.

12-23-07, 01:02 AM	#4
Roads88 Sparky Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sacramento CA. Posts: 150 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Brass Gauges Ducimus were did you get those great gauges from your screen shots. Those are SWEET. __________________ It's useless for sheep to pass resolution after resolution in support of vegetarianism, while wolves maintain a separate opinion.---Unknown Author.

12-26-07, 01:12 PM	#6
jdkbph Captain Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 508 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 0	Gato Test Depth - heads up Just had myself a little adventure in a Gato, running TM's New Construction career. Actually it's a slight mod of the mod, that allows me to choose a Gato from the 1943 New Construction career. Anyway, the second part of the first shake down mission has me diving to test depth using the normal dive command whch is supposed to level off the boat automatically at the max rated or "test" depth. However, when the boat kept going right through 300 feet, past 400 and even past 500 feet, I kinda figured something was up. Checked the Gato.cgf file and, sure enough, the test depth is defined as 210 meters. It should be 90 meters. So if anyone else experiences a headache or an overall congested feeling when using the dive command in a TM Gato, you might want to make that little adjustment. JD

12-31-07, 10:41 AM	#13
Hawk_345 Medic Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 160 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Ok i know i just asked this not too long ago, but of course i was not around for a while and a lot has changed so, i want to use TM,ROW,NSM, and RSRDC mods, if they are all compatible with each other, what order should i place the files. A screenshot would be very helpfull if someone has one or a complete list. thanks. Also i would like to use this mod as well if its not already included with any of the above mods,i have not had the time to read everything yet. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=125556 __________________

01-11-08, 05:05 PM	#14
Gatlin01 Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 11 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	ROW addon Hi Ducimus, I`ve been using your mod since it was born on SH4. I would like to know which of the ROW`s do you prefer for 1.7.5. ATM, I have these d/l: New clouds from killer2 New seafoam from jaketoox Object reflections and search lights ver 5b Sky and ocean controls ver 5 Sound effects ver 8 Special effects with stock zones ver 5b Sub reflections and roll pitch mod ver 5 Textures with Sun Halo camera flair ver 5 Also, I`ve added RSRDC_P2_TM_V221

12-12-07, 01:40 AM	#3
Fincuan Admiral Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Suomi, sauna, puukko, perkele Posts: 2,346 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	Haven't noticed anything like that, my torps hit as they used to. Could you elaborate a little, maybe provide some screenshots? Also are you using any other mods that might affect range readings, such as the Manual targeting accuray fix?

12-26-07, 04:32 PM	#8
jdkbph Captain Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 508 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 0	Weeeeell... OK. But at 210 meters I was taking damage. The idea behind the "test" depth - which I think is what's being represented in the CFG file - is that you can go there safely. And of course, as in all properly engineered designs, there would be a margin. That margin (ie, how deep you can actually go without taking damage - and this would most likely vary somewhat from boat to boat) is really what we're talking about here, no? That is very different from "crush depth". Now I'm not a naval architect (although I've been known to play one on TV), but I do know a thing or three about aerospace structural design and engineering... and it wouldn't surprise me at all if the design margins on these boats were in the 150% range, with catastrophic failure occuring at upwards of 200% load (although that would be extreme, with everything on the high side of nominal). That said, I don't think you'd want to send a crew down to probe that region between the margins engineered into the design and the point of catastrophic failure. That's a place you'd only want to go if there were no other choice (ie, you're going to die anyway). And if you did go there and come back to talk about it, there would likely be consequences... comprehensive inspection at the least, if not actual damage. Does this make sense? JD

12-26-07, 04:41 PM	#9
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Dont look at the CFG file, look at whats in game. Your test depth, is still the test depth. Its just a number you keep in the back of your mind. "ok my test depth is 300 feet", The trouble with using the CFG in this regard, is the depth gauge stops at 450 feet, when the boat can go deeper. Using the D key is the only way to circumvent this limitation. The problem is, this key fixates on the max depth setting in the cfg. So if your in a balao for example, and you specify a max depth of 400 feet in the cfg file, you will NEVER be able to go to 500 feet, because the D key will always bring you to the number specified in the cfg file, and since the gauge stops at 450.. thats as deep as you go. Your stuck there, even though that boat can quite easily go alot deeper.

12-30-07, 07:39 PM	#11
iafrate Bilge Rat Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Is there another way i can d/l TM install file? Filefront keeps saying i dont have permission to d/l it. Thanks

01-11-08, 05:11 PM	#15
TopCat Helmsman Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Switzerland Posts: 105 Downloads: 113 Uploads: 0	Hi Ducimus absolutely fabulous ... as always! Just one question: Is this version 1.7.5 identical to the 1.7.5. Beta that was published before in this forum?