[REQ] New Ships Added To Game - Page 11

mrbeast · 09-28-07, 03:29 PM

Tater, have you checked out the sneak peek of iambecomelife's merchant fleet mod over on the SH3 mod forum? Some very cool ship models on there.

tater · 09-28-07, 03:39 PM

Yeah, I have been watching with interest. The only issue with sh3 ships is the textures are 512x512, and they look kinda flat in sh4. Also, porting them over is more complicated than just a quick conversion (we've seen some already) since it doesn't mess with the damage models, etc.

tater

bigboywooly · 09-28-07, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mrbeast

Would it be possible to create a new ship modelled as a derelict and have it spawn at an appropriate place, say Cape Esperance on Guadalcanal, after a certain date and have it stay there for the duration as a derelict beached maru? They could be placed around places like Truk or Rabaul after major air attacks. Maybe even real locations of these ships could be used and the dates of real Tokyo Express runs used to script them in.

:hmm:

mrbeast · 09-28-07, 04:05 PM

Yeah I no what you mean I have the SH3 hospital ship ported over to my game and though it looks pretty good, but as you say, it looks a bit flat.

Is it not possible to re-skin SH3 ship models with a SH4 grade skin?

tater · 09-28-07, 04:08 PM

I think so, but having tried a little skinning... it's HARD.

That wreck is great!

tater

mrbeast · 09-28-07, 04:35 PM

What I had in mind was if iambecomelife agreed, perhaps some of his models could be reskinned and ported over to Sh4.

DeepIron · 09-28-07, 04:55 PM

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What I had in mind was if iambecomelife agreed, perhaps some of his models could be reskinned and ported over to Sh4.

That would be cool... he's got some great stuff...

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Is it not possible to re-skin SH3 ship models with a SH4 grade skin?

It's all in the texturing really. But for one thing... SH4 uses another set of "maps" to provide the "depth" that you see... Making all the textures for SH4 vessels isn't all that hard... I've already made them using Open Source tools. The remaining issue is packing them into an SH4 compliant .dat file.

mrbeast · 09-28-07, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DeepIron

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What I had in mind was if iambecomelife agreed, perhaps some of his models could be reskinned and ported over to Sh4.

That would be cool... he's got some great stuff...

Quote:

Is it not possible to re-skin SH3 ship models with a SH4 grade skin?

It's all in the texturing really. But for one thing... SH4 uses another set of "maps" to provide the "depth" that you see... Making all the textures for SH4 vessels isn't all that hard... I've already made them using Open Source tools. The remaining issue is packing them into an SH4 compliant .dat file.

Sounds like your making good progress on this

DeepIron · 09-28-07, 05:32 PM

I'm at the point where I need to do some in-game testing to verify the new vessels will work properly. I've recreated from scratch the T, N and O files and tested them on existing SH4 meshes. Now I need to see if my UV mapping and meshes are going to work correctly. Making the individual components is one thing, having them work in harmony is another...

So, I'm cooling my heels a bit until we can get an SH4 .dat produced...

iambecomelife · 09-29-07, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DeepIron

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What I had in mind was if iambecomelife agreed, perhaps some of his models could be reskinned and ported over to Sh4.

That would be cool... he's got some great stuff...

Quote:

Is it not possible to re-skin SH3 ship models with a SH4 grade skin?

It's all in the texturing really. But for one thing... SH4 uses another set of "maps" to provide the "depth" that you see... Making all the textures for SH4 vessels isn't all that hard... I've already made them using Open Source tools. The remaining issue is packing them into an SH4 compliant .dat file.

Thanks for the compliments. If anyone wants to port my vessels to SH4 that's OK with me, as long as I'm credited & it's for free. If I'm still in the mood after finishing my mod for SH3 I would like to try and create a version of it for SH4 but right now I do not know how to convert SH3 ships to SH4. I think there was a tutorial posted on how to do this but I can't find it anymore.

tater · 09-29-07, 01:09 PM

We are all hoping that when S3D becomes capable of doing this, importing a model will become literally a cut and paste level of difficulty---for the basic model. Obviously the zon file etc adds another level of complexity as werner could tell us

Your ships look amazing, BTW.

tater

LukeFF · 09-29-07, 02:41 PM

The only thing I'm worried about WRT porting over SH3 ships is that the stock SH4 ones have a far more detailed interior model which is exposed when parts of the ship get hit by shellfire or torpedoes. Won't this be a problem, unless new interiors are made for the SH3 ships?

DeepIron · 09-29-07, 03:00 PM

It's possible to create the necessary internals I believe. The meshes that represent those particular hydrostatics are separate from the "external" meshes.

DeepIron · 10-08-07, 04:33 PM

*bump*

We're still alive on this...

SlimDuce · 10-08-07, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DeepIron

*bump*

We're still alive on this...

Bump just cause I want to know ;-)

09-28-07, 03:29 PM	#151
mrbeast Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bolton, UK Posts: 1,236 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Tater, have you checked out the sneak peek of iambecomelife's merchant fleet mod over on the SH3 mod forum? Some very cool ship models on there. __________________

09-28-07, 04:05 PM	#154
mrbeast Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bolton, UK Posts: 1,236 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yeah I no what you mean I have the SH3 hospital ship ported over to my game and though it looks pretty good, but as you say, it looks a bit flat. Is it not possible to re-skin SH3 ship models with a SH4 grade skin? __________________ Last edited by mrbeast; 09-29-07 at 07:29 AM.

09-28-07, 04:35 PM	#156
mrbeast Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bolton, UK Posts: 1,236 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	What I had in mind was if iambecomelife agreed, perhaps some of his models could be reskinned and ported over to Sh4. __________________

09-28-07, 05:32 PM	#159
DeepIron Sea Lord Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Too far from the Pacific right now... Posts: 1,634 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'm at the point where I need to do some in-game testing to verify the new vessels will work properly. I've recreated from scratch the T, N and O files and tested them on existing SH4 meshes. Now I need to see if my UV mapping and meshes are going to work correctly. Making the individual components is one thing, having them work in harmony is another... So, I'm cooling my heels a bit until we can get an SH4 .dat produced... __________________ RFB / RSRDC Beta Tester RFB / RSRDC Modding Forum: http://forum.kickinbak.com/index.php RFB Top Post link: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=125529 RFB Loadout: RFB_V1.52_102408: RFB_V1.52_Patch_111608: RSRDC_RFBv15_V396

09-29-07, 03:00 PM	#163
DeepIron Sea Lord Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Too far from the Pacific right now... Posts: 1,634 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	It's possible to create the necessary internals I believe. The meshes that represent those particular hydrostatics are separate from the "external" meshes. __________________ RFB / RSRDC Beta Tester RFB / RSRDC Modding Forum: http://forum.kickinbak.com/index.php RFB Top Post link: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=125529 RFB Loadout: RFB_V1.52_102408: RFB_V1.52_Patch_111608: RSRDC_RFBv15_V396

09-28-07, 03:39 PM	#152
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Yeah, I have been watching with interest. The only issue with sh3 ships is the textures are 512x512, and they look kinda flat in sh4. Also, porting them over is more complicated than just a quick conversion (we've seen some already) since it doesn't mess with the damage models, etc. tater

09-28-07, 04:08 PM	#155
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	I think so, but having tried a little skinning... it's HARD. That wreck is great! tater

09-29-07, 01:09 PM	#161
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	We are all hoping that when S3D becomes capable of doing this, importing a model will become literally a cut and paste level of difficulty---for the basic model. Obviously the zon file etc adds another level of complexity as werner could tell us Your ships look amazing, BTW. tater

09-29-07, 02:41 PM	#162
LukeFF Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Riverside, California Posts: 3,610 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 5	The only thing I'm worried about WRT porting over SH3 ships is that the stock SH4 ones have a far more detailed interior model which is exposed when parts of the ship get hit by shellfire or torpedoes. Won't this be a problem, unless new interiors are made for the SH3 ships?

10-08-07, 04:33 PM	#164
DeepIron Sea Lord Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Too far from the Pacific right now... Posts: 1,634 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	bump We're still alive on this... __________________ RFB / RSRDC Beta Tester RFB / RSRDC Modding Forum: http://forum.kickinbak.com/index.php RFB Top Post link: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=125529 RFB Loadout: RFB_V1.52_102408: RFB_V1.52_Patch_111608: RSRDC_RFBv15_V396