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06-03-20, 11:50 AM | #151 |
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you are dating yourself there, although considering the average age around here, I am sure most get the pun. p.s. - is anyone else tired of following the news? I find I am increasingly tuning out.
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06-03-20, 11:58 AM | #152 |
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PITTSBURGH — There was a sign of positivity at protests in East Liberty Sunday evening.
State Troopers spent the afternoon standing in a parking lot at the Target store in the area. A protester named Alexander Cash brought a case of water to the Troopers, thanking them. "I know you guys are out here doing your jobs. I'm not mad at you. I'm mad at the ones that are doing it to us, do you understand? We came out here peaceful, and that's what I'm trying to show ya'll," said Cash as he opened the case of water for them.
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06-03-20, 01:00 PM | #153 |
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06-03-20, 04:19 PM | #154 | |
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To you it's never Right but FAR Right and never Media but HATE Media. Vox is every bit as hateful and biased as Breitbart but you just won't see it. |
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06-03-20, 05:03 PM | #155 |
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Going a little off topic
I have by studying my friends throughout the years come to the conclusion Which reliable news source a person trust...depends mostly on this persons political standpoints. An example A very good friend of mine, who are more right wing than I'm, post only well mostly article from Breitbart, Gates of Vienna and other alt-right media. If I post an article from CNN or from some other MSM as source I get the message from this friend...they can't be trusted they all lie to you. The same goes for my dear friend who is far left(this person is a non-violent person, if you wonder) This person only or mostly post article from left wing news paper from Denmark. Which made me conclude. Which news source a person see as reliable depends on their political standpoints. (I could be wrong) End of going a little off topic Markus |
06-03-20, 05:41 PM | #156 |
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Well, it's official.
Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison is filing Additional charges against Derek Chauvin. Chauvin had been originally charged with 3rd degree murder and Manslaughter. An additional murder in the 2nd degree has now been filed against Chauvin in addition to the charges he already faces. In addition, aiding and abetting second-degree murder and manslaughter charges have been filed against the other 3 officers involved in the murder of George Floyd. Thomas Lane and J. Alexander Kueng, who helped restrain Floyd, and Tou Thao, who stood near the others, were not initially charged. Lane, 37, Kueng, 26, and Thao, 34, are now charged with aiding and abetting second-degree murder and aiding and abetting second-degree manslaughter. https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/03/us/ge...ges/index.html In addition, It is expected that federal hate crime charges will also be filed against all 4 of these former officers. These boys could be facing the dealth penalty for their role in the murder of George Floyd. This is welcome news to everyone except the former officers themselves. |
06-03-20, 05:52 PM | #157 |
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^ this have made me wonder.
Right now we are witness to riot in many cities in USA. What would happen if the verdict they get are...let say less than a couple of years. Will we see more riot in the Street ? Markus |
06-03-20, 06:07 PM | #158 |
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Keep on forgetting this important question
Can the President of USA order the military to take action on American soil ? (sounds wrong, I hope you understand my question anyway) Some of the news here in Denmark and Sweden say he can't he hasn't the right to do so. Markus |
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Yes he can. The applicable statutes are 10 U.S.C sections 252 and 253.
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The insurrection act, which this US Code is based on, is exempt from the Posse Comitatus Act. The applicable text of the Posse Commitus Act (18 USC section 1385) is Quote:
The insurrection act is an Act of Congress and therefore is exempt from the restrictions of the Posse Comitatus Act. Does this answer your question?
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06-03-20, 06:58 PM | #160 |
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I know I know it iss considered to be politically incorrect to tell jokes on blondes, but this stupid hollow-headed girlie is blonde and babbles so much empty trash that she fulfills every, really every cliché about blondes.
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us...urchill-in-ww2 America now offers the UK an apology for that infame comparison. All what Churchill was as statesman and as private man and artist - Trump is none of that.
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06-03-20, 07:05 PM | #161 | |
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I'm sure the defendants will try to plea bargain but with as strong as the evidence is against them, I would be surprised if prosecutors would be interested in plea bargaining anything unless it's taking a potential death penalty off the table in exchange for a guilty plea. Chauvin is 46 so it's unlikely he will ever see the outside again if convicted of all the charges against him. The other 3 are also looking at a lot of years behind bars if convicted. The other 3 officers face the same sentences as Chauvin, if convicted since they are viewed as equal participants in the murder of George Floyd. Last edited by Commander Wallace; 06-03-20 at 07:13 PM. |
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06-03-20, 07:11 PM | #162 | |
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I honestly don'T know and do not dare to assess this from my side, so I am just asking.
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06-03-20, 07:19 PM | #163 |
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The attempt by Trump to politicise the military can easily become one of the many serious damages that will outlast his time in office by long years to come after him.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...h-trump-297820 The military must resist to make the same mistake the Wehrmacht made regarding Hitler. It shall not, under no circumstances, allow to get abused for personal interests of the leader. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...-trump/596665/ This ^Admiral Mattis said recently: "Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people—does not even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us." (...)"We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership. We can unite without him, drawing on the strengths inherent in our civil society. This will not be easy, as the past few days have shown, but we owe it to our fellow citizens; to past generations that bled to defend our promise; and to our children."
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06-03-20, 07:33 PM | #164 | |
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The tables have turned and the U.S record regarding police brutality against everyone but particularly African Americans has been laid bare for scrutiny and scorn, worldwide. The militarization of local police forces has also been called into question. This didn't just happen with the murder of George Floyd. Others have lost their lives over frivolous matters in dealing with law enforcement officers. This is why you see Police officers joining protests as well. This incident and murder makes all decent and honorable law enforcement officers look bad. It also places them at risk for lethal retaliation and they are aware of that. There have been incidents of attacks on police officers in the last week. These 4 former Minneapolis officers are hardly political pawns, as you describe them. They are nothing more than murders and should be treated and regarded as such. They are being held accountable to the same standard with which they used with other defendants who allegedly, let me repeat that, allegedly committed a crime. Our legal system holds that everyone is innocent until proven guilty. It's a standard they denied George Floyd when they murdered him in cold blood. The 4 officers involved in this incident on the other hand, will have their day in court. To save face, The U.S will have to throw the full weight of the law including the Federal Government against these former officers to demonstrate to the world that they don't tolerate this sort of behavior, even though they do. I fully expect Federal Hate crime charges to be filed in the coming days or weeks against these officers in addition to what has been filed at the state level. This murder has given the U.S a pretty good black eye on the world stage. I fully expect to see legislation enacted and bills written to address these abuses on a number of levels. The Supreme Court should consider abolishing the Immunity that public officials like police officers have enjoyed to protect themselves from prosecution in engaging in crimes while hiding behind a badge. For these former officers, they will have the unique opportunity to see the legal system from an entirely different perspective. If I were these officers, I would be scared. I'm sure they are in protective custody in jail but if they are convicted, they should be put into the general population and not protected. This would send a strong message to any law enforcement officers operating on the fringes of the law and serve as a strong deterrent. Like everyone else in the U.S, It's been a numbing experience to have endured the last week. I have faith and confidence that the people in the U.S are good people and will have the will to try to make things right through concrete actions and legislation. Last edited by Commander Wallace; 06-03-20 at 08:21 PM. |
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