French and British Sonar

[goldorak]

Originally Posted by Orm

I would be very pleased if this thread could be deleted as we are giving to an unrefined the publicity that he seems to lack in his dreamy little life.

No, what we need is a basic ignore function.

Originally Posted by micky1up

so a naval plane could never be used to fly and fight in desert areas think what you saying

Yes...highly unsual to repaint naval planes according to theatre of operations...

..and yes...it's an SU-35, Google it.

[UglyMowgli]

Originally Posted by Orm

I would be very pleased if this thread could be deleted as we are giving to an unrefined the publicity that he seems to lack in his dreamy little life.

We just need a more active moderation or a "trolll only" sub-forum for off topics threads.

[Linton]

I think somebody should be looking at pprune if he gets excited about aeroplanes,unless SCS are going to add a flyable Sukhoi to DW.The new sonar for Astute has been recently trialled at Autec.

[Henson]

My last fire control computer had a nifty grey color scheme (no camouflage).



Incidentally the sonar computers looked the same. 32 channel sweetness (put to shame by modern fiber, but who cares?)

Why don't you all just eff off...it wasn't me who made this thread go off topic. Go back and read and get your heads out yer arse.

[Henson]

All the submariners I know are pretty thick-skinned...they have to be. We're not nice people, and we generally don't open our mouths without pages upon pages of documentation ready to back up what we're saying (comes from dealing with nuc-trained officers).

After 6 weeks at sea, watching nervous breakdowns is considered entertainment.

[aaken]

Even among non submariners watching a nervous breakdown can be considered entertainment.
It sure is for me. We only miss the brawl.

[UglyMowgli]

Originally Posted by Doc Savage

I was wondering. There is so much literature available on the Net (and on this forum) about American and Russian sonar and their relative capabilities. But there doesn't seem to be much info about the French and British sonar systems. Even the Japanese, German, Chinese etc. stuff.
How do their sonar systems stack up as compared to the Russian and American stuff? Do any of them have high sensitivity sonars or is it pretty much No.1 USA, No. 2 Russia and everybody else far behind?

To return to the topic.

English have good sensors, french a just little beyond (just because french sub arev ery small compare to other), but the sonar are not all, if the submarine is noisy you can have the better sonar system, you are disavantged, the cew ability is also to account.

I will speak only for French nuclear attack submarine they are compact (better against active sonar) and a little bit noisy (all the machinery are not well isolated from the hull) but they can change speed in a very short time and have a very high turn rate. The sonar specialists are very well trained.

So a comparison between sonar is not very easy, you should consider the whole : the sonar, the sub, the crew, ... and the capitain.

[micky1up]

all im saying is that if your subs and crew are better why have i spent a good portion of 19 years training your officers surely it would be the other way round

[swimsalot]

Love the pictures, Henson!
Those are definately 2 guys that spend alot of time indoors (underwater?)

Well, I'm no expert on sonar, but common sense dictates that a French Sonar system has a one in a million chance of being combat tested. This being the case, it could be made out of camambert and it wouldn't make much difference.

Though I'm a sceptic when someone says "French systems are better than British systems"...yeah, ok....if you say so. How about backing up what you said.

p.s. Stilton is better than Brie

[goldorak]

Originally Posted by Kurushio

Well, I'm no expert on sonar, but common sense dictates that a French Sonar system has a one in a million chance of being combat tested. This being the case, it could be made out of camambert and it wouldn't make much difference.

Though I'm a sceptic when someone says "French systems are better than British systems"...yeah, ok....if you say so. How about backing up what you said.

p.s. Stilton is better than Brie

There is no sense in having a discussion with you kurushio.
You're the embodiement of the typical obnoxious, self centered, we're the best, the world couldn't go on without us, american attitude.
Just go on living in your nutshell.

I'm not American...."scemo". In actual fact, I'm a resident of Salsomaggiore Terme. Ever heard of it? I'm sure you have.

[Wim Libaers]

Originally Posted by Kurushio

Well, I'm no expert on sonar, but common sense dictates that a French Sonar system has a one in a million chance of being combat tested. This being the case, it could be made out of camambert and it wouldn't make much difference.

I guess very few submarine sonar systems were ever combat tested, unless there were some major sea battles in the last decades that I don't know about. The testing they get is tracking and following other sound sources during their patrols, which should be good enough for most purposes as the sonar is a sensor, not a weapon.