Europe's migrant problem

[mapuc]

It's stories like this, that makes me mad, mad at him and other fake refugees

He the others are "working against" them who are really refugees.

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[Bubblehead1980]

I get angry when I see reports each day. Germany is being foolish and naive taking these people.These so called refugees clashing with Greek Police because it is taking too long to get permits ? What is wrong. Everyone of them should be sent back to Syria if no other Muslim countries will take them in. The naievte and bleeding heart which has nearly ruined much of Europe will eventually kill it off.Sadly, my country is going same way if do not stop taking in the world's strays and send back the ones here illegally.

[mapuc]

^ You are mentioned one thing
" if no other Muslim countries will take them in"

Why will these rich Muslim country not take a lot more of these refugees ?

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[u crank]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Why will these rich Muslim country not take a lot more of these refugees ?

There is the possibility that the refugees don't want to go to these 'rich Muslim' countries. I can think of a few reasons why they wouldn't.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Many Danish and Swedish people are asking them self the same question- Why are they travelling through whole Europe-Through several othere safe-haven-countries towards Denmark and Sweden ?

In Denmark, the new government have cut the benefits with about 50 % for newcomer. This from September 1th.

Markus

That will soon change. There will be widespread protests from current migrants in your country, joined by new immigrants, to let them have citizenship, and more benefits. When they can vote, they have the power to make that happen. And the migrants/refugees will petition to let their extended families enter the country, you cannot separate the families.

Originally Posted by Oberon

Do you possess any shred of human decency in your body?

Don't waste your time...

[HunterICX]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Ok, what's the solution then? Put them back into Syria? Might as well just give half of them to Daesh if you do that.

Sadly having all of them stay permanently ain't an option either if you don't want Europe to destabilize and spiral into chaos that'll brew eventually in yet another conflict where there's a a high possibility that they'll be scapegoated and thrown out or removed by force.

It'll have to be made clear to them their stay in the European countries is only temporary and that once things have calmed down and Daesh is crushed they'll be going back with UN's aid to rebuild their lives.

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by HunterICX

Sadly having all of them stay permanently ain't an option either if you don't want Europe to destabilize and spiral into chaos that'll brew eventually in yet another conflict where there's a a high possibility that they'll be scapegoated and thrown out or removed by force.

It'll have to be made clear to them their stay in the European countries is only temporary and that once things have calmed down and Daesh is crushed they'll be going back with UN's aid to rebuild their lives.

That would be the solution but it's not going to happen as our politicians don't have the spine for it. The refugees are here to stay with all the problems down the road that that will bring.

[Torplexed]

Certainly one of the by-products of Indian and Pakistani emigration to the UK from the 1940s to the 1970s was a curry house on every avenue.



Here in the US it's burritos and tacos. And thanks to the influx of Vietnamese refugees you can't swing a dead cat in Washington State without hitting a punny pho shop.




So, Germany get ready for kebab and kibbeh in you national diet, if you haven't already.

[Torplexed]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Heck, the Indian and Pakistan influx to the UK helped create one of our national dishes. Chicken Tikka Masala, which despite its foreign sounding name was actually created in the UK, in Glasgow nonetheless.

Never had it, but just by the name, it already sounds five hundred times tastier than haggis.

[ikalugin]

How about:
- Create centralized EU authority do deal with immigrants, with UN overwatch.
- Identify conflict/disaster zones, people from which qualify as refugees.
- Create filtration camps under that authority.
- Dump all illegal immigrants/illegal refugees into those camps.
- In those camps process them and then distribute between EU members per quotas.
- If a person or family are found not to have legitimate reason to seek refuge - deport them.

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by ikalugin

How about:
- Create centralized EU authority do deal with immigrants, with UN overwatch.
- Identify conflict/disaster zones, people from which qualify as refugees.
- Create filtration camps under that authority.
- Dump all illegal immigrants/illegal refugees into those camps.
- In those camps process them and then distribute between EU members per quotas.
- If a person or family are found not to have legitimate reason to seek refuge - deport them.

That's pretty much what people wanted however especially the eastern EU countries and the UK are refusing to accept any kind of refugee quota. So much for the EU handling things together...

[Aktungbby]

What I don't comprehend is why the EU doesnot freeze the assets of the Syrian state to pay for the mass exodus and issue a war crimes warrant against any and all parties. I notice none of refugees are headed for Russia which supports...or has supported the Assad regime; PUTIN' an unfair economic strain on Europe!.

Russia has at various times used its UN Security Council position to block resolutions that would condemn the Syrian government (often in concert with China), including blocking the firstand second drafts of a Franco-British sponsored attempt to condemn the use of force by the Syrian government.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%27s_role_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/11845635/Vladimir-Putin-confirms-Russian-military-involvement-in-Syrias-civil-war.html what's new pussycat?

"Last week Syrian state television released images showing an advanced Russian-built armoured personnel carrier, the BTR-82a, in combat. Videos have also appeared in which troops engaged in combat appear to shout instructions to one another in Russian.

Last week the Israeli daily Yedioth Ahronoth cited western diplomatic sources saying that Russia was on the verge of deploying “thousands” of troops to Syria to establish an airbase from which the Russian air force would fly combat sorties against Isis."

[Dan D]

On the EU summit 25/26.06.2015 the EU members despite heavy disputes were able to agree upon a EU distribution key for relocation and resettlement with regard to (back then) 40.000 refugees in Greece and 20.000 in Italy.

A new proposal by the EU commission is to be made soon which will have to pass the vote of the EU Council.

The EU distribution key for refugees you find here, scroll down till chart: http://fluechtlingsforschung.net/eur...egt-sich-doch/


How to read:
First number is the proposed quota by the EU Commission and the second number shows the vote in the European Council, the third number the total number of refugees either to be relocated or resettled for each country.


For Denmark. Ireland and the UK the votes of the EU Council are not binding on the field of asylum policy as per Protokoll 21 and 22 VAEU Ratsbeschlüsse. These EU members are not included when it comes to relocation, but they have volunteered to take part when it comes to resettlement.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Dan D

For Denmark. Ireland and the UK the votes of the EU Council are not binding on the field of asylum policy as per Protokoll 21 and 22 VAEU Ratsbeschlüsse. These EU members are not included when it comes to relocation, but they have volunteered to take part when it comes to resettlement.

Can tell you today our primeminister said

That Denmark would take some of these refugees, even though Denmark is not a part of this EU-asylum system.

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